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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 13:50:26 GMT
I read on the internet (so it must also be true that they had cut a squadmate because s/he was too similar to a past squadmate. I haven't seen the direct quote, though, so take it with a grain of salt. If it is true, then that could be the reason that there is a discrepancy with 6 or 7 squadmates. Maybe it was originally 7 and they ended up dropping it to 6. It could also mean that the remaining squadmate might not be a synthetic (everyone assumes that s/he is because the leak said there was a synthetic squaddie) since the leak predates the "cut a squaddie" stuff that happened more recently. I also agree that we won't have a fully romanceable squad roster and I'm happy about that. I am totally cool with the LI's being limited. As long as everyone gets options, I'm good with a smaller number. I'm still just not seeing Drack as an LI. So I think that Cora (straight), Vetra (straight), Pee Bee (bisexual), & Liam (bisexual?) are the likely romanceable squaddies. The rest (another guy and a lesbian) will be NPCs. Although I'm often wrong about these things. One thing that I'm not thrilled about is the likely continuation of the "every female squaddie is romanceable" thing. In ME, the only female squaddies that couldn't be romanced were Samara/Morinth, Kasumi, & EDI. And if you remove any with pseudo-romances, that only leaves Kasumi and EDI. Out of 8. Just seems skewed, especially when compared with the males (Wrex, Legion, Grunt, Zaeed, Mordin, etc.). Ah, good thing we read Internet! Where would we be without it. Well, fingers crossed for more info. Was playing ME2 yesterday, and darn, male Quarians looks so awesome in Tali's mission with all the colorful armor and voicing. Something exotic like that would be so cool as an LI, particularly if they would wear transparent masks on their enviro suits, not opaque.... So far I see nothing that makes me want to play a female PC in the romantic department. Liam & Drack are not my cup of tea. |
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 12, 2016 15:14:36 GMT
My prediction is six full romances so that every sexuality has one for "themselves", plus two bi options so that everyone has two choices. A number of flings on top.
Five bucks says...
Cora: straight
Liam: bi (based on Kaidan in ME3)
Peebee: bi
Vetra: hmmm... I'll go with lesbian (five extra bucks on a Peebee/Vetra hookup if not taken)
The second straight option for Sara is not a squadmate and not human. Same for the other male option for Scott. MAYBE Drack will fill one of these slots (I hope NOT).
The only thing slightly off is that lesbians get no human romance here. So maybe Cora will be bi as well... (I'll laugh if she's a lesbian and give five bucks to the conspiracy people.)
What I'd LIKE to see aside from 4 player-sexual romances (my favorite option), is all aliens as bisexual, but then the balance would be off because Peebee and Vetra are both female. Of course one might not be a romance option. But I'm 99% convinced both will be.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 15:23:13 GMT
I really hope Drack is just everyone's favorite obligatory Krogan buddy, not a romantic option. Sheesh, if they cut out another squadmate, because it was too similar, or it cost too much, Drack better have a novel take on Krogan, because another roaring and tough Krogan with genophage is not particularly ground-breaking. I dunno, is he a foremost painter of Tuchanka's idyllic prenuclear landscapes?
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Post by readher on Dec 12, 2016 15:55:55 GMT
My prediction is six full romances so that every sexuality has one for "themselves", plus two bi options so that everyone has two choices. A number of flings on top. Five bucks says... Cora: straight Liam: bi (based on Kaidan in ME3) Peebee: bi Vetra: hmmm... I'll go with lesbian (five extra bucks on a Peebee/Vetra hookup if not taken) The second straight option for Sara is not a squadmate and not human. Same for the other male option for Scott. MAYBE Drack will fill one of these slots (I hope NOT). The only thing slightly off is that lesbians get no human romance here. So maybe Cora will be bi as well... ( I'll laugh if she's a lesbian and give five bucks to the conspiracy people.) What I'd LIKE to see aside from 4 player-sexual romances (my favorite option), is all aliens as bisexual, but then the balance would be off because Peebee and Vetra are both female. Of course one might not be a romance option. But I'm 99% convinced both will be. Don't give them ideas. I'd rather have her straight/bi than to get 5 dollars  On a serious note, I'll be seriously boycotting the game if it comes to that. But chances of that are really slim. A lot of people are getting tired of what BioWare's doing (I'm not even talking about conspiracies here, but rather sub-par animations considering industry standrad and writing getting worse and worse with every game with way too many cliches), making main female squadmate lesbian would only add fuel to that and I don't think it'd be worth it, no matter the intentions behind it. |
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Post by fialka on Dec 12, 2016 17:06:44 GMT
Ah, good thing we read Internet! Where would we be without it. Well, fingers crossed for more info. Was playing ME2 yesterday, and darn, male Quarians looks so awesome in Tali's mission with all the colorful armor and voicing. Something exotic like that would be so cool as an LI, particularly if they would wear transparent masks on their enviro suits, not opaque.... So far I see nothing that makes me want to play a female PC in the romantic department. Liam & Drack are not my cup of tea. Yeah, been wanting a male quarian romance since the first time I played ME2. Replayed the trilogy recently and was reminded of how much I love their suit designs, cool accents, and interesting culture. Alien but not too alien. I would love to see that in a male LI in Andromeda - but neither the Kett nor the purple play-doh people are inspiring me in that regard. Not that I wouldn't romance one if I liked him enough, but neither species are what I would call attractive. Hence the reason (or part of the reason - I just like the quarians in general) I'm still holding out hope they make it to Andromeda. Human options are fine as long as their personalities are cool, and I like the turians - but I find them more 'aesthetically interesting' than actually attractive. The krogan are just... no. I liked Wrex a lot, but, the idea of romancing a big ugly hump-backed lizard thing is a bit of a stretch. Er, no pun intended, but... there's that too  So yeah, I'm with you in that our potential choices for guy romances aren't exactly exciting as of yet. I doubt Drack will even be an option, and if he is, that's great for people who want it. But I don't want it. Because not only is he krogan (see above) he also appears to be a very old man and what we've heard of his voice doesn't do anything for me either. And Liam sounds like a human version of Garrus at the moment, and that's really all the information we have, so for now my feeling toward him could best be expressed as 'meh.' Hopefully with more info on him that'll change. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 17:14:23 GMT
By some reason I keep thinking that Liam is a resurrected Disciple's concept or another spin on Torian from SWTOR. A new take on Disciple would be more interesting for me, though tbh, what I remember might not be even there, seeing how KOTOR2 was all about the shades of shadows and what was left unsaid. Torian was fairly dull. I have not yet romanced Garrus, 'cause Thane.
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Post by readher on Dec 12, 2016 17:41:58 GMT
By some reason I keep thinking that Liam is a resurrected Disciple's concept or another spin on Torian from SWTOR. A new take on Disciple would be more interesting for me, though tbh, what I remember might not be even there, seeing how KOTOR2 was all about the shades of shadows and what was left unsaid. Torian was fairly dull. I have not yet romanced Garrus, 'cause Thane. KOTOR2 and Disciple is Obsidian though. They didn't really put much recognition of KOTOR2 in SWTOR so I doubt they'd base a character on Obsidian's (especially since he wasn't liked at all). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 17:47:59 GMT
Thank you for sharing even more of your universal opinions.
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Post by readher on Dec 12, 2016 18:14:18 GMT
Thank you for another post that brings absolutely nothing to the discussion. Practically the only reference to KOTOR2 in SWTOR is Smuggler's mission with Nihilus holocron. I don't count KOTOR2 characters' Cartel Market outfits as a reference, because they hold no story value. At least Drew Karpyshyn knows what's good and his book had Surik in it among other things from KOTOR2. And Disciple was generally not liked, mainly due to the fact that Brianna was a much more interesting character and had more story value. He wasn't necessary a bad character himself, but the alternative was much better written and developed.
On a side note, your sarcasm skills are very good, practically undetectable. Really caught me off guard at first. Had to read your post several times before I detected it. I was actually already in the middle of a post thanking you when I realized it was meant to be sarcastic. That's some next level skills you've got.
I wonder if your only job is to provocate me. One closed thread isn't enough for you? Maybe call your gif friend over, I'm sure you'll manage to bring another discussion to a stop by irrelevant ad personam posts.
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Ladies - you're both pretty, ok? - now stop fighting I'm no woman, thank you very much. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 18:34:29 GMT
Ladies - you're both pretty, ok? - now stop fighting I'm no woman, thank you very much. That's enough, Susan...  But seriously, lets keep this forum nice and friendly, no need to be sarcastic / provoking. |
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Post by readher on Dec 12, 2016 18:44:08 GMT
I'm no woman, thank you very much. That's enough, Susan... But seriously, lets keep this forum nice and friendly, no need to be sarcastic / provoking. No need to be telling me this, I'm not the one who started. I'm all for discussing topic relevant to the thread. And I'm definitely missing some kind of a reference here |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 18:51:02 GMT
That's enough, Susan... But seriously, lets keep this forum nice and friendly, no need to be sarcastic / provoking. No need to be telling me this, I'm not the one who started. I'm all for discussing topic relevant to the thread. And I'm definitely missing some kind of a reference here |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 19:54:10 GMT
Disciple’s concept, despite being at the time overshadowed by the better developed and brighter painted Atton Rand, was interesting. KOTOR 2 was the first game where the female PC saw two men vying for her attentions, something a male PC saw from the very first Biobsi game that included the romances, BG2.
Since then, however, we have seen quite a few male LIs that where similar to Rand, smart-Alek, broken up, often with a deceased female of a great personal significance to them in their past and commandeering her star-ships as self-appointed best pilots.
Disciple’s concept of a scholarly, artistic type that was in love with the PC and only the PC for most of his life went unused as far as I know (I did not play DA franchise and the NWN1 franchise).
I do not find an idea of Liam following Sara on the journey into the unknown out of unspoken hopeless love for her unattractive as a romance’s starting point. He does seem to have a more typical for a Bio’s male LI warrior/rogue background, rather than the mage/scholar/artist but since it is only based on the “former cop”, who knows. Perhaps he is both.
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Post by AGECCR on Dec 12, 2016 21:34:18 GMT
Ah, good thing we read Internet! Where would we be without it. Well, fingers crossed for more info. Was playing ME2 yesterday, and darn, male Quarians looks so awesome in Tali's mission with all the colorful armor and voicing. Something exotic like that would be so cool as an LI, particularly if they would wear transparent masks on their enviro suits, not opaque.... So far I see nothing that makes me want to play a female PC in the romantic department. Liam & Drack are not my cup of tea. Yeah, been wanting a male quarian romance since the first time I played ME2. Replayed the trilogy recently and was reminded of how much I love their suit designs, cool accents, and interesting culture. Alien but not too alien. I would love to see that in a male LI in Andromeda - but neither the Kett nor the purple play-doh people are inspiring me in that regard. Not that I wouldn't romance one if I liked him enough, but neither species are what I would call attractive. Hence the reason (or part of the reason - I just like the quarians in general) I'm still holding out hope they make it to Andromeda. Human options are fine as long as their personalities are cool, and I like the turians - but I find them more 'aesthetically interesting' than actually attractive. The krogan are just... no. I liked Wrex a lot, but, the idea of romancing a big ugly hump-backed lizard thing is a bit of a stretch. Er, no pun intended, but... there's that too So yeah, I'm with you in that our potential choices for guy romances aren't exactly exciting as of yet. I doubt Drack will even be an option, and if he is, that's great for people who want it. But I don't want it. Because not only is he krogan (see above) he also appears to be a very old man and what we've heard of his voice doesn't do anything for me either. And Liam sounds like a human version of Garrus at the moment, and that's really all the information we have, so for now my feeling toward him could best be expressed as 'meh.' Hopefully with more info on him that'll change. I sincerely doubt Drack will be a romance option for Sarah, or Scott for that matter. For those that want him as one: I don't get it. I'm not saying it because I'm so against a krogan romance, rather it's because we don't know Drack very well. He's said one line in a gameplay trailer. I'm in agreement with domi that he appears (just from what little we know of him) to be a typical krogan character and I'm not interested in those types when it comes to romance. Then again he may surprise me but I still don't think I'd be interested. He most likely wouldn't be either, for that matter... fialka: I agree with you on the quarians and, interestingly enough, I didn't even think about them clearing up their visors. That would be awesome  .
I'm holding out judgement on Liam. There's (again) not enough to go on. I've gone into ME2 not being particularly fond of Thane just from an image of the cgi commercial and the idea that I wouldn't get Garrus as an option simply because he's turian and a lot of people think they're too alien (so, ladies get Thane instead!). 1 minute after talking to him in the game I fell for his character (not in the romantic sense, as I was hooked on Garrus, but it would've been incredibly easy to become interested if that option was never available). So, I figuratively smacked myself for taking such an extreme view on a character I didn't even know into the game. Never did that again. On the other hand, I went into Inquisition thinking from a more positive position (you know, 'cause those are less likely to be wrong >.>) on Iron Bull's character. Smacked myself again because he wasn't anything like I'd pictured and I was actually, totally put off by his character in the romantic department. I was good about not doing this with other characters in that game and found that Solas just naturally fit for me. I loved that unexpected outcome from both games. I'm going to be doing the same for Andromeda and future games. |
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Post by revanshep78 on Dec 14, 2016 15:43:02 GMT
My bet is on that there are still at least 1 or 2 squadmates from Andromeda race that we don't even know about. I would guess that Andromedian squaddie being romanceable by all genders and preferences.
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Post by eternalgoddess on Dec 16, 2016 6:06:12 GMT
Here my current guess for romances from the characters we know.
Sara only: Peebee and Reyes
Sara and Scott: Vetra/Liam/jien Garsen/Sloane Kelly
Scott only: Cora and Foster Addison
I could see Dr. Lexi and another Pathfinder being romances as well.
Drack will get romance with Nakmor Kesh.
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Post by dalinne on Dec 16, 2016 10:15:06 GMT
Here my current guess for romances from the characters we know. Sara only: Peebee and Reyes Sara and Scott: Vetra/Liam/jien Garsen/Sloane Kelly Scott only: Cora and Foster Addison I could see Dr. Lexi and another Pathfinder being romances as well. Drack will get romance with Nakmor Kesh. Aveline Drack Quest |
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Post by fialka on Dec 16, 2016 14:04:18 GMT
Here my current guess for romances from the characters we know. Sara only: Peebee and Reyes Sara and Scott: Vetra/Liam/jien Garsen/Sloane Kelly Scott only: Cora and Foster Addison I could see Dr. Lexi and another Pathfinder being romances as well. Drack will get romance with Nakmor Kesh. Aveline Drack Quest I would actually totally love this! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 14:10:17 GMT
Aveline Drack Quest I would actually totally love this! Drack's Loyality Quest: "Help Drack gather enough Andromedian flowers for Nakmor Kesh" Because you know... they just have to include at least one DA:I style fetch quest in ME:A |
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Dec 19, 2016 4:27:44 GMT
pretty amazing if they just did something no ones expects like make peebee a lesbian since everyone assumes asari have to be bi/pan. , make her straight instead, then I'll get another much-needed option  Or better yet, don't make her a romance option at all, or at least not for Ryder  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 4:46:00 GMT
pretty amazing if they just did something no ones expects like make peebee a lesbian since everyone assumes asari have to be bi/pan. , make her straight instead, then I'll get another much-needed option Or better yet, don't make her a romance option at all, or at least not for Ryder but i wanna romance her as femryder ;; it'd be a hell of a twist if she isn't romancable though. |
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Dec 20, 2016 3:02:20 GMT
Nooooo, make her straight instead, then I'll get another much-needed option Or better yet, don't make her a romance option at all, or at least not for Ryder but i wanna romance her as femryder ;; it'd be a hell of a twist if she isn't romancable though. After all the kerfluffle about her appearance, I kind of want her not to be. Like, you flirt and she shuts you down. It'd mess with so many peoples' heads if it was only Shepard who was ridiculously attractive to every asari in the universe pretty much. And then maybe an asari doctor on the tempest you can hook up with who happens to look like Diana Rigg but blue so everyone's happy after all. MY VINDICTIVENESS KNOWS NO BOUNDS. |
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Post by naytnavare on Dec 20, 2016 5:48:12 GMT
I really want to romance an Asari squaddie as maleryder, so, maker her bi for ALL the Ryders.
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