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Post by lauratsoni on Mar 8, 2017 20:21:42 GMT
Everyone kept saying back in December that she was the new Aria or some pirate queen but I felt she was more of a rebel leader. I'm thinking she uncovers something unsavoury about the AI and tries to do something about it. yeah i definitely don't get an aria vibe from her, especially with her having been part of the alliance, and a security chief.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 9, 2017 3:20:00 GMT
Everyone kept saying back in December that she was the new Aria or some pirate queen but I felt she was more of a rebel leader. I'm thinking she uncovers something unsavoury about the AI and tries to do something about it. yeah i definitely don't get an aria vibe from her, especially with her having been part of the alliance, and a security chief. Either way, Sloane is hot as hell. Please, Sloane, let Sara rebel with you against Jien Garson... it'll be you two against the world!
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Post by lauratsoni on Mar 9, 2017 13:48:08 GMT
yeah i definitely don't get an aria vibe from her, especially with her having been part of the alliance, and a security chief. Either way, Sloane is hot as hell. Please, Sloane, let Sara rebel with you against Jien Garson... it'll be you two against the world! i want her to be a romance option sooooo bad. i'll even take a fling!!! pls bioware.
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Post by Kaazmiin on Mar 14, 2017 15:34:03 GMT
Hey, guys! I'm currently reading the first three chapters of the Nexus Uprising novel here, all legal and free, and I have to say I LOVE Sloane Kelly (and Jien Garson). The book features a third person-narration, but from her point of view (at least the initial chapters), and she's really great. I can totally emphasize with her and her thoughts and actions.
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Post by Vall on Mar 14, 2017 16:41:49 GMT
Reading the first few pages, I have to wonder why would she abandon Nexus
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Post by Petroshenko on Mar 15, 2017 14:30:59 GMT
Random prediction: she will be fling/1-night stand for both Ryders. Why? Aria 2.0 vibes
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 15, 2017 14:48:24 GMT
Reading the first few pages, I have to wonder why would she abandon Nexus I've already decided that Military Tribunal awaits her, so I read it from kinda funny perspective. Like a confession basically.
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Post by lauratsoni on Mar 16, 2017 11:13:12 GMT
ooooh, gonna read the nexus uprising preview STAT.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 22, 2017 22:46:19 GMT
I was watching a stream earlier and the player was in Kadara...I noticed that they changed her face model since the trailer. I doubt that was a bug or anything...The face of Sloane Kelly we see in the trailer was not there. Sloane this time ,was older and had different features ,but same hair and clothes. Well, I like her better.The old face looked way too young.
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Post by FemShepard'sPie on Mar 28, 2017 11:39:51 GMT
I was watching a stream earlier and the player was in Kadara...I noticed that they changed her face model since the trailer. I doubt that was a bug or anything...The face of Sloane Kelly we see in the trailer was not there. Sloane this time ,was older and had different features ,but same hair and clothes. Well, I like her better.The old face looked way too young. I noticed that! I was wondering if it was the rendering between seeing it in-game with my own eyes vs. on the streams. Didn't know they changed the face entirely. I like this one much better because it fits more with her character and experience.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 28, 2017 12:04:58 GMT
I was watching a stream earlier and the player was in Kadara...I noticed that they changed her face model since the trailer. I doubt that was a bug or anything...The face of Sloane Kelly we see in the trailer was not there. Sloane this time ,was older and had different features ,but same hair and clothes. Well, I like her better.The old face looked way too young. I noticed that! I was wondering if it was the rendering between seeing it in-game with my own eyes vs. on the streams. Didn't know they changed the face entirely. I like this one much better because it fits more with her character and experience. I totally agree.In the trailers she just looked way too young .I also think her face was basically an edited Preset 5 head from the CC. I like her new face,way more fitting.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Mar 28, 2017 15:49:34 GMT
I made sure to finish Nexus Uprising before I met her in-game, because I was already reading it and loved her character. In the book, she's the one person who seems to actually give a damn, and reminded me a lot of the more upright (but against the grain) Alliance characters like Anderson. In the game, at least in the one conversation I've had with her, she's a punk rock thug who runs an extortion racket. Was there a whole lot of miscommunication going on? I thought that the book was made in close collaboration with the game's writing team, especially given how they got Ryder to narrate it. Maybe there'll be some explanation in-game but so far I'm really disappointed by the character's 180 flip in maybe a couple of months at most of story time between the novel and her presence on Kadara. The sad thing is, from reading the book, I was hoping there would be some kind of storyline where you boot Tann and put Sloane in his place. I suppose that could still conceivably happen but Director Kelly and Jabba Kelly seem to be very different people.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Mar 28, 2017 16:27:33 GMT
I made sure to finish Nexus Uprising before I met her in-game, because I was already reading it and loved her character. In the book, she's the one person who seems to actually give a damn, and reminded me a lot of the more upright (but against the grain) Alliance characters like Anderson. In the game, at least in the one conversation I've had with her, she's a punk rock thug who runs an extortion racket. Was there a whole lot of miscommunication going on? I thought that the book was made in close collaboration with the game's writing team, especially given how they got Ryder to narrate it. Maybe there'll be some explanation in-game but so far I'm really disappointed by the character's 180 flip in maybe a couple of months at most of story time between the novel and her presence on Kadara. The sad thing is, from reading the book, I was hoping there would be some kind of storyline where you boot Tann and put Sloane in his place. I suppose that could still conceivably happen but Director Kelly and Jabba Kelly seem to be very different people. The flip happened right at the end of the book. It was a single scene, and would have been better if the book went on for another chapter or two fleshing it out more. She wanted to live, and decided she was going to be the alpha dog who would kill anyone who went against her. It is hinted at in game that she made some choices between the time Ryder meets her and the end of the book pushing her further from her ideals and more towards being "Jabba" Kelly.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Mar 28, 2017 17:12:38 GMT
I made sure to finish Nexus Uprising before I met her in-game, because I was already reading it and loved her character. In the book, she's the one person who seems to actually give a damn, and reminded me a lot of the more upright (but against the grain) Alliance characters like Anderson. In the game, at least in the one conversation I've had with her, she's a punk rock thug who runs an extortion racket. Was there a whole lot of miscommunication going on? I thought that the book was made in close collaboration with the game's writing team, especially given how they got Ryder to narrate it. Maybe there'll be some explanation in-game but so far I'm really disappointed by the character's 180 flip in maybe a couple of months at most of story time between the novel and her presence on Kadara. The sad thing is, from reading the book, I was hoping there would be some kind of storyline where you boot Tann and put Sloane in his place. I suppose that could still conceivably happen but Director Kelly and Jabba Kelly seem to be very different people. The flip happened right at the end of the book. It was a single scene, and would have been better if the book went on for another chapter or two fleshing it out more. She wanted to live, and decided she was going to be the alpha dog who would kill anyone who went against her. It is hinted at in game that she made some choices between the time Ryder meets her and the end of the book pushing her further from her ideals and more towards being "Jabba" Kelly. I read that portion. At 'worst' she seemed to be headed in the direction of an old-line Yakuza or Don Vito Corleone type, the definite boss of the area who enforces contracts (the line is about how people stealing supplies would be killed) but someone who looks out for the man on the street... not someone who sends jackboots to beat down civilians for nothing as she seems to be in the game. I'm sure the game version was written first, so the blame is on the directions they gave the novelists. At some point they should have cut in and said 'this is not the same character', or changed the game character to fit with the book. Her look is terrible as well. They look like some vorcha gang when, given the Exiles' training and backgrounds, they should almost be a less polished Cerberus (in aesthetic.)
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Post by Julale on Apr 1, 2017 19:10:52 GMT
She has two different eye colors 👀😮
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Post by CTPhipps on Apr 1, 2017 19:19:03 GMT
I think Sloane Kelly would have been more interesting as the character from the book: a dogged idealist who hated the Initiative and everything it stood for while Reyes was a scumbag Michael Corleone gangster who just wanted to exploit the angara--but was willing to work with the Initiative. Admittedly, that would just be Harowmount versus Bhelen. But that was an awesome choice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 20:29:05 GMT
I really liked her, reminded me of Aria it's too bad things shaped up as they are
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Post by Sifr on Apr 2, 2017 22:33:03 GMT
She has two different eye colors 👀😮 There's a few characters with heterochromia in Andromeda. I'm curious if it's simply a coincidence, or because using gene therapy to give mismatched eyes has become fashionable in the future? The lore says that the Alliance gives it's soldiers some degree of enhancements to make them healthier and Shepard was able to get several back-alley body modifications in ME2 to make them more tougher and resilient in combat, so who knows what other (frivolous) uses there are for the technology?
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Post by Bann Duncan on Apr 3, 2017 15:06:25 GMT
I think Sloane Kelly would have been more interesting as the character from the book: a dogged idealist who hated the Initiative and everything it stood for while Reyes was a scumbag Michael Corleone gangster who just wanted to exploit the angara--but was willing to work with the Initiative. Admittedly, that would just be Harowmount versus Bhelen. But that was an awesome choice. She's not even that far; she hates the Nexus leadership but is really loyal to Garson and the idea... not so much to Tann and his bureaucracy. I just finished her storyline in-game this weekend. I know that the game version is the 'real' character, considering they would have written her first. But it pisses me off all the more that they went ahead and produced a novel with a completely different character who shares the name. Why on earth didn't they step in? They must have noticed it was going way off script. I just finished the Ryder Family Secrets quest and the end of it would have been such a great hook to bring in book-Kelly. Wouldn't work with Jabba Kelly, unfortunately.
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Post by Sifr on Apr 3, 2017 15:27:40 GMT
Haven't read the book yet, so can't really comment on how different her charactersation is there. But we have to consider that spending a year in the sorts of awful conditions that the Nexus found itself in would be enough to change some people. They faced starvation, severe power shortages and an enemy aggressor that refused any attempt to communicate. Rather than the A-Team they'd been promised, their leaders were from the D-List because everyone else had been killed. Wouldn't be hard for even someone who believed in Garson's idea to have become bitter and jaded after all that. There's also the matter of Lexi discovering on Elaaden that some of the colonists have been experiencing neural decay as a side-effect from prolonged stasis, which has been slowly amping up their aggression levels.
This condition isn't affecting all the Exiles however, as some did genuinely leave for perfectly valid reasons relating to their dissatisfaction with the leadership under Tann. But it does explain why some flipped their switches to evil by the time of the Uprising and MEA rolls around.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Apr 4, 2017 1:38:15 GMT
Haven't read the book yet, so can't really comment on how different her charactersation is there. But we have to consider that spending a year in the sorts of awful conditions that the Nexus found itself in would be enough to change some people. They faced starvation, severe power shortages and an enemy aggressor that refused any attempt to communicate. Rather than the A-Team they'd been promised, their leaders were from the D-List because everyone else had been killed. Wouldn't be hard for even someone who believed in Garson's idea to have become bitter and jaded after all that. There's also the matter of Lexi discovering on Elaaden that some of the colonists have been experiencing neural decay as a side-effect from prolonged stasis, which has been slowly amping up their aggression levels.
This condition isn't affecting all the Exiles however, as some did genuinely leave for perfectly valid reasons relating to their dissatisfaction with the leadership under Tann. But it does explain why some flipped their switches to evil by the time of the Uprising and MEA rolls around. There are maybe a couple of months at most between the novel's events and the game. Such a drastic change in that time is impossible to reconcile.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 4, 2017 1:44:04 GMT
Haven't read the book yet, so can't really comment on how different her charactersation is there. But we have to consider that spending a year in the sorts of awful conditions that the Nexus found itself in would be enough to change some people. They faced starvation, severe power shortages and an enemy aggressor that refused any attempt to communicate. Rather than the A-Team they'd been promised, their leaders were from the D-List because everyone else had been killed. Wouldn't be hard for even someone who believed in Garson's idea to have become bitter and jaded after all that. There's also the matter of Lexi discovering on Elaaden that some of the colonists have been experiencing neural decay as a side-effect from prolonged stasis, which has been slowly amping up their aggression levels.
This condition isn't affecting all the Exiles however, as some did genuinely leave for perfectly valid reasons relating to their dissatisfaction with the leadership under Tann. But it does explain why some flipped their switches to evil by the time of the Uprising and MEA rolls around. There are maybe a couple of months at most between the novel's events and the game. Such a drastic change in that time is impossible to reconcile. It's actually about a year according to the game.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Apr 4, 2017 4:28:03 GMT
There are maybe a couple of months at most between the novel's events and the game. Such a drastic change in that time is impossible to reconcile. It's actually about a year according to the game. I'll grant that. Doesn't change the fact that the game itself (not just through the recollections of characters) recounts events completely different to the ones portrayed in the book. Bizarre that something that would have been written after the game was finished (as writing goes) is so contradictory.
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Post by formerfiend on Apr 4, 2017 5:16:26 GMT
I haven't read the book, admittedly. Going to preface my opinion with that.
Also going to preface my opinion with this statement; I never liked Aria. I always felt Aria was someone's self insert fanfic character that made it to the final game. Was entirely too self-indulgent.
So, those things having been said, I liked Sloane more than I liked Aria - I felt this was a more flawed, realistic take on what a space pirate queen would be like. I'm honestly disappointed that there wasn't a line from someone, say Lexi, Vetra, or Drack, to the effect of "It's like she thinks she's some kind of Aria T'lok or something." I find the idea of this person who's trying to play this role and the story of what that's turning them into is more interesting than Aria just being this ultimate badass.
That being said, I still didn't like her too much.
As for her change in behavior from book to game, in game there's a minor quest on Elaaden, where a lot of the exiles have gone full Mad Max levels of depraved, that several of them are suffering from a sickness caused by cryosleep that's altered their brain chemistry and caused more violent, antisocial behavior. It's entirely possible that Sloane's suffering from that, though it's never directly suggested.
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Post by Sifr on Apr 4, 2017 16:26:50 GMT
There's a possibility that Sloane was putting on a front of an Iron Lady you don't screw with. Compared to the weak leadership of Tann on the Nexus, she was projecting strength and that was needed to keep everyone in line and prevent would-be rivals from attempting to usurp control. We saw that Morda on Elaaden runs the Krogan colony in a very similar manner, using her intimidating presence and shows of strength to keep order. Makes sense that Sloane might have picked up on this being an effective tactic, especially when it comes to keeping the loyalty of the many Krogan we see that work for her. It could be that privately, Sloane is actually far different from the arrogant Pirate Queen sitting on the throne of Kadara, which was the only lens that Ryder ever viewed her through. We know that she cares about her second-in-command and Ryder speculates that their relationship may be more than professional (although both strenuously deny it). This may be why she threw caution in the wind after he was beaten up on the Charlatan's orders, not even bothering to take any bodyguards (save for Ryder) when she went to confront the Charlatan.
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