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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 18, 2017 19:41:41 GMT
I can see it going one of two ways in order to streamline Kadara's plotline: - Sloane is eventually killed or deposed no matter what, with Reyes the eventual shadow ruler of Kadara in all playthroughs
- Neither Sloane nor Reyes stay as ruler for Kadara for long and it always ends up being some other guy eventually
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Post by RakiaTime on Apr 19, 2017 6:13:21 GMT
Sloane is my hero, that is all
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Post by Maeljin on Apr 25, 2017 12:26:47 GMT
More likely they'll just have a common threat, external or internal, hit Kadara and Sloane and Reyes have a Virmire situation where the one you chose is a temporary squadmate. That'd work better than just forcing choices. Each could have a couple dialogue differences, for example Sloane would have differences depending on if you stayed out of the whole side quest chain or if you sided with her during High Noon, and Reyes would have differences depending on if you are in a romance or not. I agree it's too good to be true - companions are highly unlikely. Though, another all out attack where you get help from either of them is possible. And you remind me that there are actually 5 outcomes - you can leave Kadara unresolved. I wish you were right and until DLC comes out will hope for the best. At what point does the situation on Kadara auto-resolve itself? Once one begins the final mission I reckon? And I wonder if the outcome is always the same?
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Post by Amirit on Apr 25, 2017 13:56:36 GMT
I agree it's too good to be true - companions are highly unlikely. Though, another all out attack where you get help from either of them is possible. And you remind me that there are actually 5 outcomes - you can leave Kadara unresolved. I wish you were right and until DLC comes out will hope for the best. At what point does the situation on Kadara auto-resolve itself? Once one begins the final mission I reckon? And I wonder if the outcome is always the same? Not "auto-resolved" but "un-resolved". Means, Sloan owns Kadara, Charlatan is still around and there is no outpost for AI. suspect in that case nobody comes to aid you in the last fight.
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Post by Maeljin on Apr 25, 2017 14:08:10 GMT
At what point does the situation on Kadara auto-resolve itself? Once one begins the final mission I reckon? And I wonder if the outcome is always the same? Not "auto-resolved" but "un-resolved". Means, Sloan owns Kadara, Charlatan is still around and there is no outpost for AI. suspect in that case nobody comes to aid you in the last fight. Ah right. I actually misread your post, so nvm
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Post by elanor on Apr 25, 2017 15:20:53 GMT
Only thing I like in Sloane is how my Ryder was messing with her.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 28, 2017 15:24:20 GMT
I don't like the Sloane I see in the game. She's antagonistic (hell, Ryder was in cryo on the Hyperion when the uprising happened - does the Pathfinder really need grief over doing the job they were always meant to do? Should Ryder NOT try to settle Heleus?), a thug, and drug pusher and will charge you money just to set up an outpost. Ryder is trying to build bridges with the exiles while Sloane just wants to maintain her throne.
The book doesn't make me feel better about her. She was in a tough situation for sure - everyone was - but she did a lot of things in secret, she frequently went off on her own, was out of communication with the leadership when she was needed to help make decisions (and then complained about it) and just made outright poor decisions based on her feelings in the moment. It all led to disaster. It's true that Tann made some terrible decisions, but at least he was trying to hold things together given that he wasn't really equipped for this kind of leadership. Rather than really try to work with him and explain why some ideas were good or bad, she just got frustrated and angry. I don't think I want a person like that in charge of anything. Her one good trait is that she wasn't a racist like Tann. Actually, she did care about people but unfortunately wasn't willing to take on the more difficult tasks associated with leadership.
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Post by vixzer on May 10, 2017 16:58:05 GMT
The book gives a new perspective and understanding about Sloane Kelly, after reading I can say she is one of my favorites and I feel kind of annoyed that everyone in game disagree (after I choose her) Anyway, I figured that the writers have a plan for her (if she lives) and Reyes for the next games. But to hell with them! I am the Pathfinder and the choice is mine! PS: I would love to have her as a LI option
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Post by obatalaryder on May 21, 2017 7:03:09 GMT
First fan art someone made of Sloane. "Defense Squad" is very apt.
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Post by obatalaryder on May 21, 2017 7:17:07 GMT
I don't like the Sloane I see in the game. She's antagonistic (hell, Ryder was in cryo on the Hyperion when the uprising happened - does the Pathfinder really need grief over doing the job they were always meant to do? Should Ryder NOT try to settle Heleus?), a thug, and drug pusher and will charge you money just to set up an outpost. Ryder is trying to build bridges with the exiles while Sloane just wants to maintain her throne. The book doesn't make me feel better about her. She was in a tough situation for sure - everyone was - but she did a lot of things in secret, she frequently went off on her own, was out of communication with the leadership when she was needed to help make decisions (and then complained about it) and just made outright poor decisions based on her feelings in the moment. It all led to disaster. It's true that Tann made some terrible decisions, but at least he was trying to hold things together given that he wasn't really equipped for this kind of leadership. Rather than really try to work with him and explain why some ideas were good or bad, she just got frustrated and angry. I don't think I want a person like that in charge of anything. Her one good trait is that she wasn't a racist like Tann. Actually, she did care about people but unfortunately wasn't willing to take on the more difficult tasks associated with leadership. Sloane switching sides is very much a visceral spur of the moment decision, though. It's not calculated. She sees the Krogan being unleashed on a people she's trying to negotiate with, and is forced in the miiddle of a life-and-death battle to choose between 2 factions. (by Nakmor Morda of all). As it is put, "the side of the rebels fighting for their right to be equals? Or the machiniations that unleashed a Krogan clan on its own people?" Sloane is unwavered in her loyalty as being the chief of Security throughout the book, though. There's no qualm about her personal position, only her perception of Tann and the Nexus crisis. It's supposed to be irony that she ends up being the leader of a mass band of mutineers that she was initially intended to put down.
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Post by Sairys on May 29, 2017 15:56:06 GMT
I said this somewhere else, personally, I see her in the power hungry side, and if it turns out that she's some sort of freedom fighter then I¡m going to think they were deliberately misleading us with the way they presented her in the video where she's sitting on what for all intents and purposes is a throne, IMO. It's true that we know next to nothing and that I can perfectly imagine her having very good reasons to start a rebellion, but the throne scene seriously, if they weren't trying to make her look like a crime queen I can't imagine where were they going with that scene... And if she really is a crime queen, I'd only wished she isn't very similar to Arya (loved Arya, but for the sake of variety). She seems to be an interesting character, in any case In the book that's out there is good reason to sympathize with her and how she got into this position, however what she did after getting to Kadara is another story. She became thug-lord, exiling people who couldn't pay up which is exactly against her characterization in the novel that proceeds these events. Then there is the issue of the quest that shows she's purposefully getting people addicted to a drug that could have otherwise been used as an anti-biotic. In the book, the exiles became "her people" she was sticking up for and led them out of a bad situation. By the time she's settled into that throne on Kadara, well absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Post by pianishimo on May 29, 2017 23:38:44 GMT
The conflict between Sloane and Reyes was one of the greatest points of the game. Although, I think that that especific scene, where you have to save her or not, isn't very well written. It's not very clear that what you will decide to do has an immediate consequence. I though that more things would happen, but there wasn't anything else. It was a short scene for a very important plot point. Said that, I saved Sloane 1) because the first thing I thought was "My Ryder couldn't ever let someone die with a shot in the back, 2) I thought Reyes was absolutely dishonrable because of that, 3) Reyes is not worth of taking the power like that from someone "who built everything". Even if I didn't like Sloane very much and absolutely loved Reyes as a character, neither he or she is the best example of a good person. My Ryder also romanced Reyes and I decided to let him go without shooting him. Well, it's very likely that Reyes will return somehow if you let him escape as I did because it's a good opportunity to see him as the anti-hero he is. For players who romanced him and saved Sloane it's a brilliant opportunity to talk about feelings, to see if he's still worth of being loved or "saved", if he wants to be saved. There are plenty opportunities to be explored in DLCs or in the next game for both him and Sloane and I hope that BioWare learns with its mistakes and use them to make a better story
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Post by obatalaryder on Jun 3, 2017 6:41:20 GMT
I said this somewhere else, personally, I see her in the power hungry side, and if it turns out that she's some sort of freedom fighter then I¡m going to think they were deliberately misleading us with the way they presented her in the video where she's sitting on what for all intents and purposes is a throne, IMO. It's true that we know next to nothing and that I can perfectly imagine her having very good reasons to start a rebellion, but the throne scene seriously, if they weren't trying to make her look like a crime queen I can't imagine where were they going with that scene... And if she really is a crime queen, I'd only wished she isn't very similar to Arya (loved Arya, but for the sake of variety). She seems to be an interesting character, in any case In the book that's out there is good reason to sympathize with her and how she got into this position, however what she did after getting to Kadara is another story. She became thug-lord, exiling people who couldn't pay up which is exactly against her characterization in the novel that proceeds these events. Then there is the issue of the quest that shows she's purposefully getting people addicted to a drug that could have otherwise been used as an anti-biotic. In the book, the exiles became "her people" she was sticking up for and led them out of a bad situation. By the time she's settled into that throne on Kadara, well absolute power corrupts absolutely. I've seen many people talk of this difference in characterization between the book and the game and I don't get it. Sloane is the same hardass in the book as she is in the game. The last chapter of the book heavily foreshadows the type of ruler Sloane would become and what mentally enables her to take over Kadara Port. The only difference is that the novel is pretty much viewed from the perspective of Sloane. We're inside her mind. And her soft, considerable, conflicted and honorable side is more detailed and explored. In the game, we're just given a face value of Sloane as a ruler who has no time for AI lapdogs, and we only get glimpses of her inner shell.
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Post by pianishimo on Jun 21, 2017 15:37:08 GMT
I just want to drop here that modders have modified Sloane to a younger version and she looks SUPER pretty and badass: Here's the link to the MOD.
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Post by antmarch456 on Jun 30, 2017 11:59:15 GMT
I just want to drop here that modders have modified Sloane to a younger version and she looks SUPER pretty and badass: Here's the link to the MOD. Wow, she looks amazing! Is there an archive-link to her younger look? (since apparently it was created with CC resources)
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Post by pianishimo on Jun 30, 2017 18:02:28 GMT
I just want to drop here that modders have modified Sloane to a younger version and she looks SUPER pretty and badass: Here's the link to the MOD. Wow, she looks amazing! Is there an archive-link to her younger look? (since apparently it was created with CC resources) I don't believe there is, but maybe someone can make a similar Ryder
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Post by Psy on Jul 11, 2017 3:35:56 GMT
I just love Reyes too much to let her live Also, I really need to read Nexus Uprising to learn more about her. She seems so in depth in that book
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Post by Serza on Aug 11, 2017 11:42:21 GMT
She is. Much much more grey.
I guess that my following Ryders will have read the reports and will be nicer to her as a result.
Reyes is fancy and all, but... At the end of the day, he is just a guy you can't be sure if you can trust. Kelly is a grey character that got disillusioned with Tann's exceptional fuck ups in the leadership. Addison should've gotten Director, if not Kelly.
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Post by Garo on Oct 29, 2017 11:56:57 GMT
After reading the novel I am further convinced to never let Reyes kill her, like wtf, she is awesome.
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Post by Inosha T'Rynn on Oct 29, 2017 20:43:39 GMT
Killing me with that smile, Sloane. She's probably my favorite character in all the Mass Effect games. She's also my favorite Mass Effect character to write. Addison is a close second. Totally ship her with Addison after reading Uprising. I know...left field, but in my head it makes sense in the way Jack and Miranda make sense to me. I thought she got the short end by the Initiative. Technically, both she and Addison were right, and that's a hard situation to be in having to make the choices that either one of them made. I don't like how Tann has treated her: Trying to hunt her down, and I still think that Reyes is mixed up in that assassination attempt. I can never justify letting her get shot in the back, or the idea that Tann might be using Ryder to do his dirty work. I also think that Addison was trying to spare her and/or make it up to her by using Kandros and hiring Exiles.
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Post by obatalaryder on Nov 6, 2017 8:19:51 GMT
I just want to drop here that modders have modified Sloane to a younger version and she looks SUPER pretty and badass: Here's the link to the MOD. Jesus christ. who's idea was this to do this to her face in the first place? She looked fine in the official gameplay trailer back in December. I understand the scar thing because of Sloane's hard journey as an outcast, but they could have made it look personable and unique to her and not right out of the flimsy character creator. And the unnecessary eye shadow.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Dec 1, 2017 16:48:19 GMT
The conflict between Sloane and Reyes was one of the greatest points of the game. Although, I think that that especific scene, where you have to save her or not, isn't very well written. It's not very clear that what you will decide to do has an immediate consequence. I though that more things would happen, but there wasn't anything else. It was a short scene for a very important plot point. Said that, I saved Sloane 1) because the first thing I thought was "My Ryder couldn't ever let someone die with a shot in the back, 2) I thought Reyes was absolutely dishonrable because of that, 3) Reyes is not worth of taking the power like that from someone "who built everything". Even if I didn't like Sloane very much and absolutely loved Reyes as a character, neither he or she is the best example of a good person. My Ryder also romanced Reyes and I decided to let him go without shooting him. Well, it's very likely that Reyes will return somehow if you let him escape as I did because it's a good opportunity to see him as the anti-hero he is. For players who romanced him and saved Sloane it's a brilliant opportunity to talk about feelings, to see if he's still worth of being loved or "saved", if he wants to be saved. There are plenty opportunities to be explored in DLCs or in the next game for both him and Sloane and I hope that BioWare learns with its mistakes and use them to make a better story I picked Reyes, he's not a saint but at least he's willing to help.
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Post by Inosha T'Rynn on Dec 13, 2017 14:00:24 GMT
It's no secret that I am in love with Sloane's character, but I am going to have to share. Inspired by a fic I am working on titled Melody of Fools, I had this art piece commissioned: Artist credit: myaltariah.tumblr.com/
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