Trans characters in Mass Effect Andromeda

@ Daveliam I will keep an open mind.

@ toast I'm pretty sure that some transgender folks would be able to do the difference with folks who do not initially reject them unlike many, even if these people do not exactly share their beliefs, these guys ready to accept them for what they are while not totally willing to play a game with pronouns and trying to be as courteous as possible at the same time. For example calling them with their first name as much as possible when talking about them or to them ( though not always possible when it is spontaneous ). You don't have to argue with them about what they are, like I read above, I don't really understand this need to go to the worst examples. There is a middle line.

For a transman, the first name. But it could happen that I say she in a spontaenous way, not because I want to insult, but because that's what I have in my mind. That would annoy me very much that several folks would jump on me to correct me over that.

Also, I would not tell to a trans, what I think, I don't need to. But if I talk about him behind his back with other friends, I would not play with pronouns. And if there are people who would tell me, " please says she ", I would answer them that they are out of line and they shouldn't push. If it is a problem for them, then go away. You won't make me change my opinion that way. Because from there, that would be a dogma that I would be forced to follow,  it wouldn't be about being courteous. 

You have to be patient, at least for me. The struggle is real so far, don't underestimate it, even if for you, it's easy, it's nothing. For others it might not,, especially in a sizeable part of the society. Either you accept it, either you don't and then there is nothing more to say at this point and we are bound to never understand each other. If it is that much an issue, since the beginning, it isn't going to work, i'm sorry. Someone can change its way of thinking thanks to a close relationship that started carefully at the beginning for example, thanks to patience and empathy. Nothing tells that I couldn't change my mind after spending some good times with that person for example. Nothing says that thanks to an awesome person I like, face to face finally, my feelings could change. But still, you'll have to understand that initially it isn't just one way, one person, there are two folks with two minds, with two different ways of seeing things, two philosophies. I keep thinking it's neutral, I' m just being authentic and it's hard for me to believe that by just being authentic in a very neutral way with neutral words, I'm doing something wrong. If someone really thinks he is an alien, no, I reject this idea that because I consider him as a human and treats him as such, because that's what he is to me, I'm responsible  of his state. That's a red line I'm not able to reach. 

 For the moment, when i read some folks, It's more likely that I am never going to risk talking to a transgender person and to spend some time with that person, if it is so much an issue. You are more discouraging me than anything else at this point. I do not mean to insult, But so far I consider as neutral what you don't consider as neutral. 

I'd like to point out that before I knew this forum, I never talked to gay people, never learned their story, I live in a very heteronormative society. In real life, I have never seen two folks of the same sex kissing eah other on the streets; i changed my way of seeing things thanks to friendship with a few on this forum, people sharing their stories, people being reasonable and patient, not thanks to those who where yelling things like omg straight guys are evil. These people made hostile actually. Being ignorant of what lgbt could live and suffer in their life, I was shocked the first times to fall on all these hostile messages, and it took me one whole year on the bsn to see beyond that, to understand the frustration behind that thanks to reasonable folks, more able than others to explain their point. The big shift happened when I talked with a lesbian in several mps. After that, I saw things in a different way. It could maybe happen with a transgender too, who knows ?

But that would require not calling me an asshole in the first place.  If you do so, then i can ony say gtfo ? and that's where ends the story. It's easy. You would be wrong thinking that people would care about what others think, if they feel they have done nothing. 

If it is really an horribl issue, then it is very likely that I'm never going to be friends with transgenders. if it is the only way to not " insult transgenders ", so be it.