"New" infos: Grey morality and crafting...

Mace Windu wasn't morally grey, he was a light sider.

He just used a dueling technique that skirted the dark side.

I'm pretty sure Bioware have promised more grey moral choices for every game that's not DnD or Star Wars. I don't really take it as meaning much.

I can't get the link to work but this Gray thing isn't really new info. I would argue, it isn't even new to Mass Effect. There were plenty of morally gray decisions.

Spoler tagging ME3 spoilers, just in case:




There was moral gray all over ME3, at least, if not the earlier installments.

One thing that seems a shame was this idea that upgrades won't change the weapon silouhettes. That seems like a step backwards from ME2 and ME3 which is surprising if the hardware and software is supposed to be so much more capable now!

What I don't get whenever BioWare goes on about how we won't be able to upgrade the Nomad with weapons and the like because "it's for exploration" is why can't we add a cannon to our car when we can waltz into a diplomatic talk as a Pathfinder loaded to the gills with a Reeger Carbine, Piranha, Canifex, Grenades, Sentry Turrets, a flamethrower, industrial strength taser, and weaponized control of mass effect fields? And that's not even counting the other members of our party. 


The disconnect is so jarring.

Oh, absolutely... but alas, writers have yet to come up with a way to write stories that appear open/player driven while simultaneously also feel impactful and not on rails. Moral categories are the easiest way to give players choice, after all...

...and no, metaphorically coloured moral categories are NOT racist.

Yea, but that would require developers to take risks with the possible outcomes they can imagine, and those might not correspond with what players expect... risk taking has kinda gone away with big developers over the last decade, if you haven't noticed.

I don't see it as inherently risky. Just requiring a bit more forethought. They won't be able to account for every outcome but as long as they account for the most obvious ones in a way that makes sense, that should be good enough.

Oh, I agree, I'm just looking for explanations why some companies still write extremely formulaic stories...

Oh God, please no. At the very least, I hope the blueprints are in fixed vendors/drops/locations. Having to farm a single random chest in some random underground ruin just so that I could get decent gear was the worst. It was made worse, because it was entirely possible to do a complete playthrough and not find any of the really good armor/weapon blueprints. And having to hike around looking for that last bit of material you need to make something is uninteresting at best and tedious at worst.

In my view, the MET is as clearly LS/DS a game as Baldur's gate or most of the SWTOR.

Geth vs Quarians are probably the only truly gray problem in the MET, because of the consequences to both sentient races are equally sever, with just a bit of an out where you can claim that you do not consider Geth sentient beings because they are synthetics. However, the body of the Sci-Fi allows for the highly organized synthetics to be recognized as sentient beings to be treated as no different than other species. This situation gives you a win-win however, and you do not have to take sides and commit a genocide either way, instead brokering peace, which is the LS vs the DS of wiping one or another. Curiously, this decision is only available to the character committed to resolving problems in a consistent way, either LS or DS.

Conflicts between the morality and personal loyalty do not really make a case gray, imo, rather more clearly DS/LS.

In case of Krogans, this imo not a morally gray area at all. Krogans are recognized as sentient and intelligent beings, so genophage is an immoral (or darksided) act and is clearly marked as such in the game, every step of the way. The only really gray area there is using the unethical research data. The pre-emptive continuing biological warfare against the civilian population based on the assumption of future military culpability is a darksided decision.