Character Creator & Character Customization (Official Thread)

thanks.  Preset 5 seems to be a popular option for getting lighter tones, even though the default preset is darker tone ( seems more hispanic or black? ).  But again, you have the Alec Ryder situation, because from what I've seen the Alec who's tied to preset 5 doesn't look exactly caucasian.......

I made a caucasian that looks really cute and feminie (at least in my eyes)



The picture is a little blurry and she was in the middle of talking so her mouths in action haha :dumb:

That's weird, my Alec was caucasian, kinda looked exactly like default one except he had my eye colour. Maybe because my Twin was the default one?

The previous games' CC were terrible if you wanted to create anything other than a Caucasian Shepard- the fact they've actually done something about that is excellent. It's not a one or the other situation, they could have made improvements for creating POC and made a great CC ..but they didn't.

See the real problem is not that they were "more about being inclusive" it's that they thought using facescans was a good improvement, despite it seemingly being the reason we lost the most basic of features (changing eyes, lips and nose shapes).

We really have to call it what it is. This isn't a character creator. It's a race chooser. Different hairstyles and clown makeup are "a bonus". I hate to be "that guy" but this has social justice written all over it. It's more about being inclusive than being good.

That makes no sense, since the defaults are the palest of all characters. What a shitty way to be inclusive. 

hmmm.....interesting.

so maybe Alec is based on the combo of Ryders?  Or maybe he's really tied to what you choose for your twin??

that give me some hope then cuz I'll just pick the default twin then.

wonder if anyone who has access to the game can test that - if Alec is based on the combo of twins you create/choose in CC.

People are complaining about the severe limitations of the character creator. They're complaining that there isn't enough freedom to create the character they envision. A truly robust character creator should be able to make everyone happy, regardless of what gender or ethnicity they want to play as. That's clearly not the case here.

Some people have also noted that, in addition to the above, the one preset that allows for pale caucasian skin happens to be less than ideal (I'd personally go as far as saying it's quite ugly). Which, combined with the complete lack of slider options, makes things rather limiting. Again, this sort of defeats the entire point of having a character creator, when you can't create the character you envision.

You seem to be talking about representation in games in general, which isn't even the issue at hand. BioWare make games with character creators, they don't make games with established, predetermined characters that you just have to accept. So I genuinely don't know what the point of your original comment even was. And I genuinely don't know what the relevance of your "We're all equal so you should be fine with no black/gay/women heroes!" comment is since, and I'll say it again, this is a game series that relies on character creators, not predetermined characters. 

So your original comment seemed to me like it was a lazy and cynical attempt to paint anyone who has an issue with how hard it is to make a decent-looking female caucasian as some sort of closet racist or hypocrite. Which is totally dumb, and I shouldn't have to explain why (but I have anyway, since you seemed to be struggling to understand).

No, Rydad is based on your own preset # only, but only really looks like the male presets.