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Post by Dovahkiin N7 on Jan 25, 2017 14:50:58 GMT
I am hijacking Shinobu's platinum thread for gold solo questions. Sorry about that.
I can't seem to get kill streaks. When do you guys use missiles to sped up gold solos? Collectors and Cerberus only.
I try to misfile wave 5 spawn, but every time the centurion or atlas smoke grenade fucks it up. Do you missile Targets? Because sometime you get nemesis as targets, and it's real frustrating.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Jan 25, 2017 14:54:35 GMT
Nice! What kit/gun/map/faction are you using? The map has always been Giant and I've tried several Soldier class kits using different guns, Harrier, GPS, and so on. Been trying to do it with Reapers for the most part as well. I like the Soldier class the most and I've been trying them with that class. Tried 2 more times after I posted: #3)Fail: Wave 8 out of my dumbassery again. Got surrounded and taken out. #4)Fail: Wave 10 doing devices again. Got snuck up on and died quickly. Then I got this on the next one: Giant/Reapers Krogan Soldier/Geth Plasma Shotgun/Carnifex Survivor Loadout/Shogun AmpIII/Incendiary IV/Cyclonic IV How I did this I don't know, but I got very lucky I'll say that much for sure. Did this late Sunday night and the first one I told was Ernie right after I got it done. I wasn't going to post it because I pretty much did it for me, but he encouraged me and said I should post it somewhere so I am. I know this wasn't the best kit, I know the time sucks as well, but there it is I guess. It's my first one and I told him I'm not doing another one, this will probably be my last. After I was done I was a nervous wreck and had a bad headache. Took way too long but I didn't quit and kept going since I was still alive and kept finishing waves. Basically I did a lot of running around...LOL Running for my life most of the time. Wave 3 I got a hack...it was right by extraction in the bunker where I was standing by. Got most of it done before they showed up and did a circle around the map and finished it off. Wave 6 I got pizzas. 1st one was down on the lower end, ran after it and brought it up the ladder through the bunker and finished it. The 2nd one was in the control room, I ran to it and brought it back pretty much the same way. Made it to Wave 10 and got devices. Up to that point I was lucky, now I was pretty aggravated when that came up. But I got pretty lucky with those as well. 1st one was in the bunker...right beside me. Finished it quick and ran to the 2nd one which was down on the lower end. Got it done and the 3rd was in the control room. Got it done quick and just in time when they showed up.4th one was right in the middle of the map....no way I could do that one in a hurry. Ended up kiting them around the map and running back real fast to finish it off. Very lucky with these...very. Managed to finish off the wave as well. Wave 11....I was dead for sure I thought. Was in the control room where I finished off the last of them. Right where I wanted to be. I held them off the best I could but almost got surrounded again. At this point I started using missiles to clear a path and made a run for extraction. Had to use my remaining missiles in the extraction zone to stay alive, which somehow I did! Hid beside the bunker doorway and hoped for the best and I made it. I was so glad...LOL. So there it is...and it was nerve wracking for me. Like I said I'll probably not do another one. It was not fun for me at all. I'll stick to team play from now on! I drank several beers after that run. Just wanted to prove to myself I could do it, so I got that one out of my system. Even after all that, a little bit later I played some good games with other BSNers and had a lot more fun! Meh, time doesn't matter really. Getting the first one was really hard for me. If you truly care about time you can get a decent one by trying a lot and shaving time off. I went sub 40 with the Drell infiltrator and I saved my missles until I really needed them instead of spawn nuking. Getting there took several attempts and many failures though. If you fail, who gives a crap you've got one already in the bag.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 25, 2017 15:47:37 GMT
FTFY Congrats @aragorn089
I am throwing a 3 Premium Spectre Packs wager he tries a new plat solo within a few weeks. Ummm....no I'm not doing another one....like ever. NOPE NOPE NOPE! Thank you Shinobu for the kind words and since you started all this I give you credit for inspiring me as well. I might post it in the PHOF, haven't decided yet. Edit: Done! Ha ha, we're collecting quite a crew of first time soloers! I think everyone always had it in them, it's just that it took one person to say "screw it, Imma try despite my lack of skills and fail shamelessly in public" for everyone else to say "well if she can do that, so can I!" I'm really proud of everyone! Go us!
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 25, 2017 15:57:09 GMT
I am hijacking Shinobu's platinum thread for gold solo questions. Sorry about that. I can't seem to get kill streaks. When do you guys use missiles to sped up gold solos? Collectors and Cerberus only. I try to misfile wave 5 spawn, but every time the centurion or atlas smoke grenade fucks it up. Do you missile Targets? Because sometime you get nemesis as targets, and it's real frustrating. This is totally on topic, not hijacking. This thread is about supporting soloers regardless of difficulty. But it does bring up another question. It was not my intention to take the attention from HowYummy's solo thread. What do you think should be done? Should I ask to have this thread absorbed into that one? Should we just let this lie fallow after all the declared soloers have met their goals? Or something else? I could narrow the focus to first time plat solos, but that seems kind of offputting. Like we're a bunch of elitist douchebags (which we are not).
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 25, 2017 19:54:22 GMT
But it does bring up another question. It was not my intention to take the attention from HowYummy's solo thread. What do you think should be done? Should I ask to have this thread absorbed into that one? Should we just let this lie fallow after all the declared soloers have met their goals? Or something else? I could narrow the focus to first time plat solos, but that seems kind of offputting. Like we're a bunch of elitist douchebags (which we are not). Np imo, whatever thread is used. No need to melt them. Maybe Yummy's one will resurface at some point
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Post by docsteely on Jan 25, 2017 20:07:01 GMT
This is totally on topic, not hijacking. This thread is about supporting soloers regardless of difficulty. But it does bring up another question. It was not my intention to take the attention from HowYummy's solo thread. What do you think should be done? Should I ask to have this thread absorbed into that one? Should we just let this lie fallow after all the declared soloers have met their goals? Or something else? I could narrow the focus to first time plat solos, but that seems kind of offputting. Like we're a bunch of elitist douchebags (which we are not). As far as I can see there is a difference between your thread and @howyummy's, which should probably be reflected in the title: yours deals with players who are trying a type of solo for the first time while yummy's is more general. Also don't forget there is a separate thread about the platinum solos which should always be used by those succeeding (something which for instance I did not do ). IMO just renaming your thread as to include: "First-time" could do the trick.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 25, 2017 20:49:13 GMT
This is totally on topic, not hijacking. This thread is about supporting soloers regardless of difficulty. But it does bring up another question. It was not my intention to take the attention from HowYummy's solo thread. What do you think should be done? Should I ask to have this thread absorbed into that one? Should we just let this lie fallow after all the declared soloers have met their goals? Or something else? I could narrow the focus to first time plat solos, but that seems kind of offputting. Like we're a bunch of elitist douchebags (which we are not). As far as I can see there is a difference between your thread and @howyummy 's, which should probably be reflected in the title: yours deals with players who are trying a type of solo for the first time while yummy's is more general. Also don't forget there is a separate thread about the platinum solos which should always be used by those succeeding (something which for instance I did not do ). IMO just renaming your thread as to include: "First-time" could do the trick. Thanks! I've updated the OP.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 26, 2017 3:15:06 GMT
I am hijacking Shinobu's platinum thread for gold solo questions. Sorry about that. I can't seem to get kill streaks. When do you guys use missiles to sped up gold solos? Collectors and Cerberus only. I try to misfile wave 5 spawn, but every time the centurion or atlas smoke grenade fucks it up. Do you missile Targets? Because sometime you get nemesis as targets, and it's real frustrating. Haven't soloed Gold much in a while, but vs. Cerberus I usually try to nuke waves 5, 8 and 9, as well as objective cleanup if possible (i.e. if enough enemies are clumped together to make it worth it). Will nuke on other waves if a perfect opportunity presents itself though. And I always nuke Targets if its an Atlas, basically never if its a phantom/nemesis/etc.. Nemesissies can be annoying, but using a nuke on a lone nemesis is not a very good use of resources.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Jan 26, 2017 6:10:22 GMT
Wave ten fail. This episode of fail is brought to you by tag team combat drone rape. I seriously would like to find every sorry sob that bitched about these being underpowered when they didn't have incinerate before.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 26, 2017 6:36:41 GMT
Wave ten fail. This episode of fail is brought to you by tag team combat drone rape. I seriously would like to find every sorry sob that bitched about these being underpowered when they didn't have incinerate before. I know those feels. Stupid geth stunlock bullshit. But you are so close! You will get it done!
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Post by frankiscrank on Jan 26, 2017 8:41:17 GMT
I can't seem to get kill streaks. When do you guys use missiles to sped up gold solos? Collectors and Cerberus only. I try to misfile wave 5 spawn, but every time the centurion or atlas smoke grenade fucks it up. Do you missile Targets? Because sometime you get nemesis as targets, and it's real frustrating. It's not so much about getting kill streaks to speed things up, but to deplete a good amount of the wave budget. For example a kill streak out of 5 troopers does not help as much as a kill of only 2 atlases. Basically and most of the time you try to kill the double bosses with as much other units you can get. Check the wave breakedown for which waves that are. For more in-depth information especially regarding Cerberus I'd recommend the speedrun breakdown from Heldarion containing tips which spawn is worth nuking and which is not. For nuking targets it depends on which wave and which enemy faction. For example W6 Reaper it's not worth the nuke, because you get brutes and should(!) be able to kill them fast enough. Some interesting info about switching the target to something weak by nuking the first target here. Hope that helps and is mostly correct...
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Post by Dovahkiin N7 on Jan 26, 2017 9:56:12 GMT
I can't seem to get kill streaks. When do you guys use missiles to sped up gold solos? Collectors and Cerberus only. I try to misfile wave 5 spawn, but every time the centurion or atlas smoke grenade fucks it up. Do you missile Targets? Because sometime you get nemesis as targets, and it's real frustrating. It's not so much about getting kill streaks to speed things up, but to deplete a good amount of the wave budget. For example a kill streak out of 5 troopers does not help as much as a kill of only 2 atlases. Basically and most of the time you try to kill the double bosses with as much other units you can get. Check the wave breakedown for which waves that are. For more in-depth information especially regarding Cerberus I'd recommend the speedrun breakdown from Heldarion containing tips which spawn is worth nuking and which is not. For nuking targets it depends on which wave and which enemy faction. For example W6 Reaper it's not worth the nuke, because you get brutes and should(!) be able to kill them fast enough. Some interesting info about switching the target to something weak by nuking the first target here. Hope that helps and is mostly correct... Thank you. That is a great guide. Stupid nemesis is worth so much budget points. . Will try one more try today. Currently sticking to Huntress with Crusader (she murders fast but I tend to drop frequently) or Smashdept for style points. May be I should try with vanilla HA.
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Post by Dovahkiin N7 on Jan 26, 2017 9:58:29 GMT
Wave ten fail. This episode of fail is brought to you by tag team combat drone rape. I seriously would like to find every sorry sob that bitched about these being underpowered when they didn't have incinerate before. I know those feels. Stupid geth stunlock bullshit. But you are so close! You will get it done! One of the reasons I am so terrified of platinum. . You cannot avoid primes and hunters. Both give me nightmare even on gold. And they dish out lot of damage on platinum. Specially prime turrets.
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Post by patrickbateman on Jan 26, 2017 10:02:04 GMT
I know those feels. Stupid geth stunlock bullshit. But you are so close! You will get it done! One of the reasons I am so terrified of platinum. . You cannot avoid primes and hunters. Both give me nightmare even on gold. And they dish out lot of damage on platinum. Specially prime turrets. For Cerberus you only need to deal with one single Prime on wave 8, which is why I like them the most.
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 26, 2017 12:46:41 GMT
One of the reasons I am so terrified of platinum. . You cannot avoid primes and hunters. Both give me nightmare even on gold. And they dish out lot of damage on platinum. Specially prime turrets. For Cerberus you only need to deal with one single Prime on wave 8, which is why I like them the most. I think Dovahkiin is talking for gold solo. Also 1 prime + 3 phantrolls could be = nightmare too,but depends from the map and from the speed with which you kill them.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 27, 2017 2:51:54 GMT
I know those feels. Stupid geth stunlock bullshit. But you are so close! You will get it done! One of the reasons I am so terrified of platinum. . You cannot avoid primes and hunters. Both give me nightmare even on gold. And they dish out lot of damage on platinum. Specially prime turrets. On Giant/Reapers I was able to mostly avoid the Prime/s until the end of the wave by kiting more slowly to draw them into buildings where they couldn't get a bead on me. I really needed geth scanner for hunters, though. They are very speedy and sneaky, but luckily susceptible to chain overload if you can see them coming.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 27, 2017 4:36:01 GMT
One of the reasons I am so terrified of platinum. . You cannot avoid primes and hunters. Both give me nightmare even on gold. And they dish out lot of damage on platinum. Specially prime turrets. On Giant/Reapers I was able to mostly avoid the Prime/s until the end of the wave by kiting more slowly to draw them into buildings where they couldn't get a bead on me. I really needed geth scanner for hunters, though. They are very speedy and sneaky, but luckily susceptible to chain overload if you can see them coming. Plat Primes on Giant (or on any large, open map).... *shudder* best to just nuke those sons of bitches every time they show their ugly cheating faces
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 27, 2017 5:26:38 GMT
On Giant/Reapers I was able to mostly avoid the Prime/s until the end of the wave by kiting more slowly to draw them into buildings where they couldn't get a bead on me. I really needed geth scanner for hunters, though. They are very speedy and sneaky, but luckily susceptible to chain overload if you can see them coming. Plat Primes on Giant (or on any large, open map).... *shudder* best to just nuke those sons of bitches every time they show their ugly cheating faces Yeah, when they stand in the middle and refuse to be drawn into a building it's murder.
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Post by Vormav on Jan 27, 2017 9:12:59 GMT
Gave White/Cerb/Plat another couple of tries again this week. Last try was off to a good start, clearing the first two waves in ~5 minutes and only one ops pack used, but drew the long escort from one corner of the map to the other on wave 3. Good times. I'm not done with this. ... I appreciated the advice from earlier about learning to perfect each wave. It seems to be paying off outside the objective waves, I just need to be more patient.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Jan 27, 2017 10:44:25 GMT
... I appreciated the advice from earlier about learning to perfect each wave. It seems to be paying off outside the objective waves, I just need to be more patient. It s my usual pattern, i start agressive and 5-10 attempts later i kite a lot more
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Post by muahmuah on Jan 27, 2017 13:53:36 GMT
... I appreciated the advice from earlier about learning to perfect each wave. It seems to be paying off outside the objective waves, I just need to be more patient. It s my usual pattern, i start agressive and 5-10 attempts later i kite a lot more There is only one proper way to do it-fast,furious and aggressively
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Post by mordokai on Jan 27, 2017 20:37:01 GMT
Attempt number seven: Fail on wave three, due to getting slammed by brute... twice. Ravager saved my bacon the first time, but the brute went "nu-uh, you don't!" and slammed me the second time, right after getting up. The first devices spawned on landing zone and two phantoms spawned next to it and as I tried to kite, that happened. Time, 7:42. Attempt number eight: Fail on wave four, due to banshee teleporting next to me and going "your sexy ass be mine!", right away, without even giving me a chance to dodge. Fucking bitch. Spent one ops pack because I wanted to use TCP and pressed the wrong button. I can maintain my cool for pretty long, but when the shit hits the fan, it usually hits it hard, resulting in two or more used gels and probably ops pack or two. Time, 14:44. Nice getting some variety in my sync kills, if nothing else, I guess Reegar proved quite a bit more powerful than Raider, so I guess I'll stick with it, honor be damned. Down to 11 shotgun amps III, so yeah, the time for me to complete this is rapidly running out. Still, I'm gonna say this, from the bottom of my black heart... FUCK.THIS.SHIT.
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Post by docsteely on Jan 27, 2017 22:29:00 GMT
Attempt number seven: Fail on wave three, due to getting slammed by brute... twice. Ravager saved my bacon the first time, but the brute went "nu-uh, you don't!" and slammed me the second time, right after getting up. The first devices spawned on landing zone and two phantoms spawned next to it and as I tried to kite, that happened. Time, 7:42. Attempt number eight: Fail on wave four, due to banshee teleporting next to me and going "your sexy ass be mine!", right away, without even giving me a chance to dodge. Fucking bitch. Spent one ops pack because I wanted to use TCP and pressed the wrong button. I can maintain my cool for pretty long, but when the shit hits the fan, it usually hits it hard, resulting in two or more used gels and probably ops pack or two. Time, 14:44. Nice getting some variety in my sync kills, if nothing else, I guess Reegar proved quite a bit more powerful than Raider, so I guess I'll stick with it, honor be damned. Down to 11 shotgun amps III, so yeah, the time for me to complete this is rapidly running out. Still, I'm gonna say this, from the bottom of my black heart... FUCK.THIS.SHIT. You're still at one digit failed attempts? I think I've passed three digits a long time ago... AND THE SHIT IS STILL THERE! As for your amps do some harvesting even by pugging and replenish your supplies.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jan 27, 2017 23:34:47 GMT
Attempt number seven: Fail on wave three, due to getting slammed by brute... twice. Ravager saved my bacon the first time, but the brute went "nu-uh, you don't!" and slammed me the second time, right after getting up. The first devices spawned on landing zone and two phantoms spawned next to it and as I tried to kite, that happened. Time, 7:42. Attempt number eight: Fail on wave four, due to banshee teleporting next to me and going "your sexy ass be mine!", right away, without even giving me a chance to dodge. Fucking bitch. Spent one ops pack because I wanted to use TCP and pressed the wrong button. I can maintain my cool for pretty long, but when the shit hits the fan, it usually hits it hard, resulting in two or more used gels and probably ops pack or two. Time, 14:44. Nice getting some variety in my sync kills, if nothing else, I guess Reegar proved quite a bit more powerful than Raider, so I guess I'll stick with it, honor be damned. Down to 11 shotgun amps III, so yeah, the time for me to complete this is rapidly running out. Still, I'm gonna say this, from the bottom of my black heart... FUCK.THIS.SHIT. You're still at one digit failed attempts? I think I've passed three digits a long time ago... AND THE SHIT IS STILL THERE! As for your amps do some harvesting even by pugging and replenish your supplies. yeah its not unusual for me to take 3 or 4 attempts to successfully finish with a kit I haven't soloed plat with before, and when ark and I were going back and forth for the ps3 infidrell record it was pretty standard for me to need 5-10 attempts to get the time I needed (mostly because of objectives)... I think its easier to get discouraged or sort of intimidated by a run of fails when you haven't gotten that first successful one out of the way yet, because you don't have that psychological boost from knowing that you can do it even if you're having a bunch of fails in a row (which is completely normal)
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 28, 2017 5:09:53 GMT
Gave White/Cerb/Plat another couple of tries again this week. Last try was off to a good start, clearing the first two waves in ~5 minutes and only one ops pack used, but drew the long escort from one corner of the map to the other on wave 3. Good times. I'm not done with this. ... I appreciated the advice from earlier about learning to perfect each wave. It seems to be paying off outside the objective waves, I just need to be more patient. Never give up! Never surrender! I like escorts in team games, but so far have had better luck with devices than escorts in solos (never thought I'd say that).
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