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Post by fredvdp on Nov 6, 2016 15:01:57 GMT
If GOTY 2014: Dragon Age Inquisition is 'known' to not be 'top tier', irrespective of your personal opinion, then you're setting a mighty high bar . The technical aspect of DAI was, despite of its huge delays, certainly not top tier on release, nor is it now in my opinion. 30 FPS cutscenes, banter bug still not fixed, MP a laggy mess on release (no idea what state it is in now), weird-ass hitbox handling, crashes to desktop or hard freezes on otherwise super stable rigs... I think the question whether the MEA team will do better is justified. Also this:
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Post by thedarkprince on Nov 6, 2016 16:26:35 GMT
Mac Walters basically said at E3 2016, that the game was basically done. He said all they were doing was polishing the game at that point......Mind you that was like 5 months ago. And the game is still (if not delayed) 3-4 months off. That is around 9-10 extra months to polish the game. No reason for it to get delayed again, unless Mac wasn't telling the truth at E3. 10 months is plenty of time to polish a game.
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Post by clips7 on Nov 7, 2016 5:34:31 GMT
This honestly came as no surprise. Look at the barely non-existent updates we've received from this game since the last game dropped. We really haven't seen any real gameplay, so i think in all honesty, this game is still a ways off and i don't think by a few days either. Early on it felt like the game was in a spiral with people leaving towards the end of ME3 and afterwards and seemed like their was a vacuum in the aftermath after the lead writer left. All we've really gotten in terms of updates was promotional artwork. It just feel like they had to scramble to put a team together and then it felt like time was spent focusing on how to proceed forward after ME3's ending. That said, i'm not upset if a delay is stated as i'm sure creatin these games and trying to craft a storyline after the EPIC storyline of the reapers is a hard act to follow. I just felt Bioware hit a couple of creative hurdles when the team lost a few of it's members. When they barely showed anything in that PS4 pro clip, i knew that this game was nowhere near finished. Normally you'd see a steady trail of gameplay vids up to the launch of the game.....that is not the case with this particular game. So if they have to delay the game, i say let them delay it so they can tighten up and clean up whatever aspects of the game that need attention. I would appreciate it if people didn't talk out of their ass. You make it sound like Bioware hasn't been doing anything on the game at all and just doing concrpt art, or that the 4K demo is the only playable section of the game at the moment, and if Bioware were to delay Andromeda by just 3 fucking months, they could begin and finish the fucking game in that time. Even though this game has been in devlopment for almost 4 goddamn years and the main story is already playable from start to finish. All Bioware needs to do is some bug-fixing and polishing. Not to mention Bioware entered crunch time around September because the game is so close to being finished. The game's leaked release date is apparebtly in March. Its a little fucking hard to show a shit-ton of gameplay when you are busy working on the game in the first place, not to mention that N7 day is around the corner, and only the beginning of the marketing campaign, and more gameplay and information will roll out over the next several months. Your fearmongering about the game not even being close to being finished is hella bullshit and dishonest. Hmmm....I wasn't aware that i was fear-mongering. Just giving my view of what i've observed over the years. What you should have gotten out of my post was that i'm perfectly fine with them delaying the game if that is what is needed for them to deliver a stellar product. Maybe bioware is going the route that Fallout4 issued when they released their game, meaning that they will show current gameplay builds right before launch. My view still stands in that in the aftermath of ME3 when a good portion of the team disbanded, it seemed like the project was thrown up in the air waiting for the pieces to fall back into place, which again i'm fine with that, but in the 4 years of development during that process we've seen nothing but promotional artwork of what the game was going to look like, which again lead me to believe they was still trying to decide how to progress forward after the storyline of ME3. So i wasn't talking in a negative light, as i still have confidence in bioware, just voicing what i've observed over the years.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 7, 2016 5:39:24 GMT
Ⓜⓐⓢⓢ Ⓔⓕⓕⓔⓒⓣ Ⓐⓝⓓⓡⓞⓜⓔⓓⓐ According to Jorgensen, “We’re willing to make moves in launch dates if we feel that it’s necessary to deliver the right player experience..."
Hmm... Maybe it is because of this? www.ubergizmo.com/2016/10/titanfall-2-wont-sell-as-well/Could be that J is share value conscious. In any case, a Mass Effect Andromeda delay is unsurprising, if EA wants to deliver the best "player experience". The problem is, what will make this experience acceptable to J?
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Post by LightningPoodle on Nov 7, 2016 6:24:36 GMT
I don't see why they would need to delay the game again. I mean, it's an entirely different genre of game. I can understand why they feel Titanfall 2 won't sell as well, but honestly, that's their fault. They could have moved that so it wasn't in between 2 heavy hitters.
But Mass Effect? Different type of game. Whatever gets released around the same time, Andromeda will be one of the heavy hitters. It's fucking Mass Effect!
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Post by goishen on Nov 7, 2016 6:32:21 GMT
There's something that I think you're all forgetting, they could announce the game tomorrow. For like the end of November.
That investor call made it sound like it could go either way, but Heimdall said it sounded too much like they were announcing a delay. But even he admitted that it could possibly be the other way.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 7, 2016 7:13:37 GMT
There's something that I think you're all forgetting, they could announce the game tomorrow. For like the end of November. That investor call made it sound like it could go either way, but Heimdall said it sounded too much like they were announcing a delay. But even he admitted that it could possibly be the other way. Everything is possible, but I think the chance of the game getting released earlier then expected are low, even more in November. Also, not that it's proof, but shinobi on Neogaf mentioned that tomorrow will start the marketing campaign that will go on for months, so it's even less likely we'd get a November release.
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Post by straykat on Nov 7, 2016 7:19:37 GMT
I don't see why they would need to delay the game again. I mean, it's an entirely different genre of game. I can understand why they feel Titanfall 2 won't sell as well, but honestly, that's their fault. They could have moved that so it wasn't in between 2 heavy hitters. But Mass Effect? Different type of game. Whatever gets released around the same time, Andromeda will be one of the heavy hitters. It's fucking Mass Effect! Mass Effect isn't a heavy hitter, relatively speaking. They don't release Titanfall's numbers either though (Titanfall 1), but apparently it had 10 million sales according to IGN. To put it in perspective, the whole ME trilogy did 14 mill. While something like Fallout 4 sold 12 million in it's first day.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 7:21:15 GMT
There's something that I think you're all forgetting, they could announce the game tomorrow. For like the end of November. That investor call made it sound like it could go either way, but Heimdall said it sounded too much like they were announcing a delay. But even he admitted that it could possibly be the other way. Everything is possible, but I think the chance of the game getting released earlier then expected are low, even more in November. Also, not that it's proof, but shinobi on Neogaf mentioned that tomorrow will start the marketing campaign that will go on for months, so it's even less likely we'd get a November release. No way they would release anything earlier, than originally suggested. I think early 2017 is now a slim chance, given how just a few days ago EA was trying to get fans used to the perspective of ME:A being delayed yet again. EA is planning another dick move, I tell you all. My take on this is they will delay it... question is how much
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 7, 2016 7:30:11 GMT
They were actually taking to the investors, not the fans. They kind of have to be honest...or more honest then they are with fans . I don't think it's necessarily a dick move. If the game isn't ready to be released, it's better to wait and give the devs more time to polish it.
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 7, 2016 7:41:48 GMT
*sigh* Sartoz's daily routine.
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Post by Nwalmenil on Nov 7, 2016 8:08:27 GMT
To be honest, I'd much rather see the game being delayed than being released bug riddled and lacking content. If a delay means a better first impression for me, I'm all for that.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Nov 7, 2016 8:25:28 GMT
Delay as much as required, it's worth it for a polished game IMO.
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Post by Pearl on Nov 7, 2016 8:44:49 GMT
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Post by FireAndBlood on Nov 7, 2016 9:00:46 GMT
Sartoz you would make the worst detective ever.
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Post by cormyr07 on Nov 7, 2016 9:22:45 GMT
Dude, today is N7 day. Just enjoy the goddamn show instead of throwing conspiracy theories into the room. Thank you!
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 7, 2016 10:39:18 GMT
You shouldn't take corporate talk literally. Obviously the "right" player experience is when the publisher decides it is.
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Post by BadgerladDK on Nov 7, 2016 10:58:15 GMT
Ⓜⓐⓢⓢ Ⓔⓕⓕⓔⓒⓣ Ⓐⓝⓓⓡⓞⓜⓔⓓⓐ According to Jorgensen, “We’re willing to make moves in launch dates if we feel that it’s necessary to deliver the right player experience..."
Hmm... Maybe it is because of this? www.ubergizmo.com/2016/10/titanfall-2-wont-sell-as-well/Could be that J is share value conscious. In any case, a Mass Effect Andromeda delay is unsurprising, if EA wants to deliver the best "player experience". The problem is, what will make this experience acceptable to J?
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 7, 2016 12:11:44 GMT
There is no delay. Andromeda will launch in March.
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Nov 7, 2016 12:29:30 GMT
Mass Effect is Springtime. EA won't give up their precious November time slot....Star Wars Battlefront is slated to come out then.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 7, 2016 13:02:26 GMT
Possible reasons it will be delayed They decided they don't like March, so they will release the game during a month they like They don't like spring. So it will be released during season they like Someone's going on vacation, so it won't be release until that someone returns They want to delay it to watch the forum go into a state of chaos they like the idea themikefest said in one of his posts to release it on Feb 29 2020
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 7, 2016 13:04:07 GMT
Possible reasons it will be delayed They decided they don't like March, so they will release the game during a month they like They don't like spring. So it will be released during season they like Someone's going on vacation, so it won't be release until that someone returns They want to delay it to watch the forum go into a state of chaos they like the idea themikefest said in one of his posts to release it on Feb 29 2020 So, basically, none of the reasons above are possible?
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Post by themikefest on Nov 7, 2016 13:07:52 GMT
So, basically, none of the reasons above are possible? So, basically, yeah?
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Post by bshep on Nov 7, 2016 13:28:40 GMT
Way to jump the gun, again Sartoz....
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