Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
2090
0
Deleted
0
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 18:07:16 GMT
They said (back in December I think) that MEA will have more romances than any BioWare game to date, but rumors are that we will only have 6 companions (or 7 with DLC's maybe), plus not all of them will be available for romance, so this probably means more romances (flirts?) with NPC's and crew..
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
825
0
Deleted
0
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 23:14:42 GMT
They said (back in December I think) that MEA will have more romances than any BioWare game to date, but rumors are that we will only have 6 companions (or 7 with DLC's maybe), plus not all of them will be available for romance, so this probably means more romances (flirts?) with NPC's and crew.. I personally prefer companions to NPCs. A romance with a squadmate or companion I feel are going to have the better development and writing and arc dedicated to it. Getting to take your partner with you on missions etc. it just adds so much to the romance side of things, even if its headcanon and there is no actual extra dialogue. I like NPCs and some of the romances have been good, just not as good I feel, and I'd prefer a decent written and developed romance arc with a squadmate than flirting with some merc on Omega.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
2090
0
Deleted
0
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 23:51:36 GMT
^ Me too to be honest, I was just saying that I don't believe they will make that many romances if we will only have 6 or 7 companions and not all of them will be available for romance and some of them are even gender restricted.. But if they was referring to NPC's (romances/flirts) too, maybe that's why they said that MEA will have more romances than ever before. Yet I would prefer more romances with companions even if that would mean less romances with NPC's
|
|
inherit
Wanted Apostate
127
0
18,270
Catilina
11,035
August 2016
catilina
Top
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Catilina on Jan 11, 2017 23:56:53 GMT
^ Me too to be honest, I was just saying that I don't believe they will make that many romances if we will only have 6 or 7 companions and not all of them will be available for romance and some of them are even gender restricted.. Steve wasn't companion, nor Diana, Sam and Jack(in ME3). We still have hope.
|
|
degs29
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Jade Empire
Posts: 470 Likes: 499
inherit
933
0
499
degs29
470
Aug 12, 2016 16:22:42 GMT
August 2016
degs29
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Jade Empire
|
Post by degs29 on Jan 12, 2017 13:19:44 GMT
Okay, I understand that line of thinking, even if I still disagree with it. They sacrifice game enjoyment for the sake of realism. Always a balancing act. They just tipped the wrong way IMO. It's a roleplaying game, those NPCs fulfill certain roles. This is no more of a sacrifice than being annoyed at a locked door or a plot twist you prefer to have been otherwise. I'd argue those are all very different items. For example, locking characters to specific genders means more work for less content. There are plenty of people who play through the game with only one gender, and so that content is off-limits to them. I'd call this impractical. On the flip side, a locked door means less content for less work, which just makes sense. This is simply practical. A plot twist is a story-related decision that has little to do with either of the above. My big problem with the first item as opposed to the others is that it doesn't actually serve a practical application. Note that I will play both as broRyder and femRyder, so I'll end up getting all my desired romances anyway.
|
|
inherit
2598
0
Feb 26, 2024 17:39:07 GMT
668
turianlannister
459
January 2017
turianlannister
|
Post by turianlannister on Jan 15, 2017 7:56:05 GMT
After DA:I and ME 3 I really doubt the lesbian and gay romances are going to be npcs, I mean Sera was an awful companion for the first lesbian romance and almost irrelevant because it was the only you could kick out of Inquisition, by optional dialogue. I still like to think they will be doing the bare minimal, that is having one companion for everyone. If not I will be highly disappointed on principle alone. Sera was a squadmate not an NPC and she wasn't the first lesbian romance, that was Samantha Traynor
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
2277
0
Deleted
0
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 10:59:23 GMT
After DA:I and ME 3 I really doubt the lesbian and gay romances are going to be npcs, I mean Sera was an awful companion for the first lesbian romance and almost irrelevant because it was the only you could kick out of Inquisition, by optional dialogue. I still like to think they will be doing the bare minimal, that is having one companion for everyone. If not I will be highly disappointed on principle alone. Sera was a squadmate not an NPC and she wasn't the first lesbian romance, that was Samantha Traynor Actually, the first lesbian romance was Juhani from KOTOR.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
197
0
Deleted
0
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 11:49:08 GMT
It's a roleplaying game, those NPCs fulfill certain roles. This is no more of a sacrifice than being annoyed at a locked door or a plot twist you prefer to have been otherwise. Note that I will play both as broRyder and femRyder, so I'll end up getting all my desired romances anyway. I do that anyhow and it suits me just fine (shrugs)
|
|
Mihura
N4
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: MihuraL
Posts: 1,303 Likes: 2,754
inherit
1951
0
Jun 10, 2024 22:52:29 GMT
2,754
Mihura
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
1,303
November 2016
mihura
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
MihuraL
|
Post by Mihura on Jan 15, 2017 16:13:55 GMT
Sera was a squadmate not an NPC and she wasn't the first lesbian romance, that was Samantha Traynor Actually, the first lesbian romance was Juhani from KOTOR. Nop that was cut and Sera was indeed the first companion you could romance, that was a lesbian. And yes you could kick her at anytime, unlike everyone else.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
2277
0
Deleted
0
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 16:40:43 GMT
Actually, the first lesbian romance was Juhani from KOTOR. Nop that was cut and Sera was indeed the first companion you could romance, that was a lesbian. And yes you could kick her at anytime, unlike everyone else. No, it wasn't cut but there was a bug that male characters could romance her as well. Overall, it was just a slight romance. But it was their first attempt, so I don't blame them.
|
|
Mihura
N4
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: MihuraL
Posts: 1,303 Likes: 2,754
inherit
1951
0
Jun 10, 2024 22:52:29 GMT
2,754
Mihura
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
1,303
November 2016
mihura
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
MihuraL
|
Post by Mihura on Jan 15, 2017 20:01:31 GMT
Nop that was cut and Sera was indeed the first companion you could romance, that was a lesbian. And yes you could kick her at anytime, unlike everyone else. No, it wasn't cut but there was a bug that male characters could romance her as well. Overall, it was just a slight romance. But it was their first attempt, so I don't blame them. You misunderstand me, the full romance was cut. There were text files that were later update by modders that made you experience the romantic arc. I did play Kotor and at best Juhani romance was a low key flirt thing, almost subtext when compared to Carth or Bastila. If anything it was even less than a npc romance.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Deleted
inherit
guest@proboards.com
2277
0
Deleted
0
January 1970
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 23:46:38 GMT
No, it wasn't cut but there was a bug that male characters could romance her as well. Overall, it was just a slight romance. But it was their first attempt, so I don't blame them. You misunderstand me, the full romance was cut. There were text files that were later update by modders that made you experience the romantic arc. I did play Kotor and at best Juhani romance was a low key flirt thing, almost subtext when compared to Carth or Bastila. If anything it was even less than a npc romance. I think they wanted to go the safe route. Don't forget, it was more than 10 years ago when KOTOR was published, and it was the first homosexual romance in a Bioware game. In addition, the game was about Star Wars. Maybe they feared the backlash from the fanbase and that's why they decided to go the ambiguous way. It is still considered a romance option.
|
|
jymm
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR
Posts: 58 Likes: 133
inherit
2558
0
133
jymm
58
January 2017
jymm
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR
|
Post by jymm on Jan 22, 2017 2:36:32 GMT
Perhaps we can all just agree that regardless of who was first, Sera wasn't Bioware's finest and we can hope for better. I admit I'm rather conflicted on whether they ought to make all the romance options player-sexual. As a player I certainly appreciate the smorgasbord of choices. It makes it easier to find an LI that you can connect with and that fits your own character concept. But at the same time, I almost think it cheapens what they are trying to do with diverse characters. If most players are straight and they flirt with the opposite sex, then they'll find that all those characters appear straight. No need to even think about who that character really is, since I know they'll be into me. In retrospect the specific-orientation characters do feel more fully realized to me. Leaving Sera aside, characters like Dorian or Traynor just feel "right" as their specific orientation. So despite the loss of player choice, I think it makes the world and the people in it feel even more real, and that's probably worth it to me.
|
|
Mihura
N4
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: MihuraL
Posts: 1,303 Likes: 2,754
inherit
1951
0
Jun 10, 2024 22:52:29 GMT
2,754
Mihura
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
1,303
November 2016
mihura
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
MihuraL
|
Post by Mihura on Jan 22, 2017 23:39:52 GMT
Perhaps we can all just agree that regardless of who was first, Sera wasn't Bioware's finest and we can hope for better. I admit I'm rather conflicted on whether they ought to make all the romance options player-sexual. As a player I certainly appreciate the smorgasbord of choices. It makes it easier to find an LI that you can connect with and that fits your own character concept. But at the same time, I almost think it cheapens what they are trying to do with diverse characters. If most players are straight and they flirt with the opposite sex, then they'll find that all those characters appear straight. No need to even think about who that character really is, since I know they'll be into me. In retrospect the specific-orientation characters do feel more fully realized to me. Leaving Sera aside, characters like Dorian or Traynor just feel "right" as their specific orientation. So despite the loss of player choice, I think it makes the world and the people in it feel even more real, and that's probably worth it to me. That is one good argument yes and believe me in a perfect world that would be great, having a diverse cast with a lot of resources. Since the world is not perfect and there is always straight or bi characters more important than gay, the rest of the population of characters are always left on a strange balance. I have to say that as a lesbian till now all those romance are lacking, from Juhani that was a side quest, to Traynor that was a NPC with really weird juvenile vibes, to Sera an irrelevante character that piss me off more than not. Most of the good romances are always shared with "male gamers" and that is just the reality of it really. Isabela was great fun, with moral grey decisions for a sarcastic female Hawke, the arc during the ME trilogy with Liara was superb, especially the DLC in ME2 and the end with ME3. Even Lana Beniko in Swtor is maybe the most competente sith I ever saw and again the best romance there. So the chance that a good round character that has a lot of moments in the main story arc, being gay is highly unlike. So in the end I prefer bi characters or on that spectrum, everyone wins.
|
|
c00lgy24
N1
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
Posts: 36 Likes: 45
inherit
243
0
45
c00lgy24
36
August 2016
c00lgy24
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion
|
Post by c00lgy24 on Jan 23, 2017 1:35:03 GMT
I just hope we get a heads up before we lock down into a romance I mean I killed Ashley a couple of times cause she was looking forward to some downtime with me when I was just being nice to her so she would stop being such a bitch to Wrex and Garrus!
|
|
jymm
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR
Posts: 58 Likes: 133
inherit
2558
0
133
jymm
58
January 2017
jymm
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR
|
Post by jymm on Jan 23, 2017 4:21:48 GMT
That is one good argument yes and believe me in a perfect world that would be great, having a diverse cast with a lot of resources. Since the world is not perfect and there is always straight or bi characters more important than gay, the rest of the population of characters are always left on a strange balance. I have to say that as a lesbian till now all those romance are lacking, from Juhani that was a side quest, to Traynor that was a NPC with really weird juvenile vibes, to Sera an irrelevante character that piss me off more than not. Most of the good romances are always shared with "male gamers" and that is just the reality of it really. Isabela was great fun, with moral grey decisions for a sarcastic female Hawke, the arc during the ME trilogy with Liara was superb, especially the DLC in ME2 and the end with ME3. Even Lana Beniko in Swtor is maybe the most competente sith I ever saw and again the best romance there. So the chance that a good round character that has a lot of moments in the main story arc, being gay is highly unlike. So in the end I prefer bi characters or on that spectrum, everyone wins. I now kind of wish I had tried the Dorian romance just for comparison to see if the gay options are better than the lesbian options. I had a male Hawke who was into Anders for awhile, but then he was going too off the rails for me and I cut it off. I've played sarcastic female Hawke paired with Isabela, a female Dalish Inquisitor paired with Sera (for better or worse), and femShep X Liara through the whole ME series. Of the three I'd say Liara's arc was the best, but that's a bisexual option, as you point out. I also agree Traynor seems less fulfilling than the in-party options, though I liked her character well enough. On the straight side I've romanced Alistair, Morrigan, Miranda, Merrill, and partway into Cassandra's romance line (never finished that playthrough). I find it hard to say that they were markedly better than the same-sex options when taken on the whole. Here's hoping we get some really excellent choices this time.
|
|
Mihura
N4
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: MihuraL
Posts: 1,303 Likes: 2,754
inherit
1951
0
Jun 10, 2024 22:52:29 GMT
2,754
Mihura
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
1,303
November 2016
mihura
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
MihuraL
|
Post by Mihura on Jan 23, 2017 5:03:32 GMT
That is one good argument yes and believe me in a perfect world that would be great, having a diverse cast with a lot of resources. Since the world is not perfect and there is always straight or bi characters more important than gay, the rest of the population of characters are always left on a strange balance. I have to say that as a lesbian till now all those romance are lacking, from Juhani that was a side quest, to Traynor that was a NPC with really weird juvenile vibes, to Sera an irrelevante character that piss me off more than not. Most of the good romances are always shared with "male gamers" and that is just the reality of it really. Isabela was great fun, with moral grey decisions for a sarcastic female Hawke, the arc during the ME trilogy with Liara was superb, especially the DLC in ME2 and the end with ME3. Even Lana Beniko in Swtor is maybe the most competente sith I ever saw and again the best romance there. So the chance that a good round character that has a lot of moments in the main story arc, being gay is highly unlike. So in the end I prefer bi characters or on that spectrum, everyone wins. I now kind of wish I had tried the Dorian romance just for comparison to see if the gay options are better than the lesbian options. I had a male Hawke who was into Anders for awhile, but then he was going too off the rails for me and I cut it off. I've played sarcastic female Hawke paired with Isabela, a female Dalish Inquisitor paired with Sera (for better or worse), and femShep X Liara through the whole ME series. Of the three I'd say Liara's arc was the best, but that's a bisexual option, as you point out. I also agree Traynor seems less fulfilling than the in-party options, though I liked her character well enough. On the straight side I've romanced Alistair, Morrigan, Miranda, Merrill, and partway into Cassandra's romance line (never finished that playthrough). I find it hard to say that they were markedly better than the same-sex options when taken on the whole. Here's hoping we get some really excellent choices this time. I did all the romances in all the bioware games, that being straight or not. Well not Jacob because the way Shepard talked to him creep me out and some on SWTOR. Most of the good romances are just straight or bi, there are some exceptions like Dorian but Gaider is probably responsible for that. Basically what I am saying is that characters that are connect to the story heavily or have more content related to it, are always hetero romances or bi. For example, Cassandra, Morrigan, Solas, Alistair and Leliana in DA and Miranda and Jacob with Cerberus in ME2, Liara in all the ME games. Isabela and Anders are central pieces in DA2 main arcs. All this makes better romances because it gives characters motivation and dept. Since there is a limited amount of resources it makes sense that those characters can always be romanced by the hetero part of the fandom, which are the majority. And since the reality is that, why not open up things for everyone in a bi spectrum. I am just being realistic really and I do not want another NPC or an annoying character with highly problematic issues without any development that can be discard anytime aka Sera.
|
|
inherit
1824
0
11,654
Davrin's boobs
#WerewolfLIforDA5 LMAO
2,689
Oct 19, 2016 19:24:39 GMT
October 2016
nickclark89
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Dragon Age The Veilguard
|
Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 23, 2017 5:50:56 GMT
Mihura Yeah, I think so too, the most important romances (storywise) in every game should be bi/pan, everybody would be happy, with minor (storywise) characters being homo/heterosexual to solidify the requested realism with all the hate that DA2 received. In ME universe, the devs redeemed themselves with Kaidan in ME3 (those who played on PC would be even more fortunated with the "mod"), and Liara who is the most important character storywise in my opinion (Kaidan/Ashley, Garrus and Tali are equal). With DA:O, I'm still mourning the fact I couldn't do a legitime romance with Alistair. The way that I see, Alistair/Morrigan and Cass/Solas should have been available for everyone. Let's see how Andromeda play this out.
|
|
Mihura
N4
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: MihuraL
Posts: 1,303 Likes: 2,754
inherit
1951
0
Jun 10, 2024 22:52:29 GMT
2,754
Mihura
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
1,303
November 2016
mihura
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
MihuraL
|
Post by Mihura on Jan 23, 2017 17:39:33 GMT
Mihura Yeah, I think so too, the most important romances (storywise) in every game should be bi/pan, everybody would be happy, with minor (storywise) characters being homo/heterosexual to solidify the requested realism with all the hate that DA2 received. In ME universe, the devs redeemed themselves with Kaidan in ME3 (those who played on PC would be even more fortunated with the "mod"), and Liara who is the most important character storywise in my opinion (Kaidan/Ashley, Garrus and Tali are equal). With DA:O, I'm still mourning the fact I couldn't do a legitime romance with Alistair. The way that I see, Alistair/Morrigan and Cass/Solas should have been available for everyone. Let's see how Andromeda play this out. Still sad I could not romance Miranda with my FemShep too, Alistair would had been really cool too for one of my malewardens with all the drama to be king. I really hope Andromeda does better but at this point I think Dorian is the best romance when not including bi or straight characters. And I am not holding my hopes up for an important gay or lesbian character for the main story.
|
|
inherit
1824
0
11,654
Davrin's boobs
#WerewolfLIforDA5 LMAO
2,689
Oct 19, 2016 19:24:39 GMT
October 2016
nickclark89
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Dragon Age The Veilguard
|
Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 23, 2017 20:12:30 GMT
Mihura Yeah, I think so too, the most important romances (storywise) in every game should be bi/pan, everybody would be happy, with minor (storywise) characters being homo/heterosexual to solidify the requested realism with all the hate that DA2 received. In ME universe, the devs redeemed themselves with Kaidan in ME3 (those who played on PC would be even more fortunated with the "mod"), and Liara who is the most important character storywise in my opinion (Kaidan/Ashley, Garrus and Tali are equal). With DA:O, I'm still mourning the fact I couldn't do a legitime romance with Alistair. The way that I see, Alistair/Morrigan and Cass/Solas should have been available for everyone. Let's see how Andromeda play this out. Still sad I could not romance Miranda with my FemShep too, Alistair would had been really cool too for one of my malewardens with all the drama to be king. I really hope Andromeda does better but at this point I think Dorian is the best romance when not including bi or straight characters. And I am not holding my hopes up for an important gay or lesbian character for the main story. Oh Miranda confused my Shepard's defined sexuality pretty hard I named Liara only for lesbians/straight men because looking the trilogy as whole she is the most important character besides Shepard, but I agree that at least Miranda should have been bisexual, because she is the best character from ME2 in my opinion, and storywise the most important too. I didn't do Dorian (yet), I presume that his character is going to be very important in the next game, but in DAI, his link with Tevinter has the same level of importance than Bull with the Qun.
|
|
our_lady_of_darkness
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 247 Likes: 574
inherit
899
0
Mar 23, 2017 21:52:34 GMT
574
our_lady_of_darkness
247
Aug 11, 2016 14:01:28 GMT
August 2016
ourladyofdarkness
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by our_lady_of_darkness on Jan 23, 2017 21:09:50 GMT
So the chance that a good round character that has a lot of moments in the main story arc, being gay is highly unlike. So in the end I prefer bi characters or on that spectrum, everyone wins. Don't lose heart, Bioware may yet surprise us. I'm ever hoping for a mature gay character (looking at you, Vetra).
|
|
Mihura
N4
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: MihuraL
Posts: 1,303 Likes: 2,754
inherit
1951
0
Jun 10, 2024 22:52:29 GMT
2,754
Mihura
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
1,303
November 2016
mihura
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
MihuraL
|
Post by Mihura on Jan 23, 2017 22:28:44 GMT
Still sad I could not romance Miranda with my FemShep too, Alistair would had been really cool too for one of my malewardens with all the drama to be king. I really hope Andromeda does better but at this point I think Dorian is the best romance when not including bi or straight characters. And I am not holding my hopes up for an important gay or lesbian character for the main story. Oh Miranda confused my Shepard's defined sexuality pretty hard I named Liara only for lesbians/straight men because looking the trilogy as whole she is the most important character besides Shepard, but I agree that at least Miranda should have been bisexual, because she is the best character from ME2 in my opinion, and storywise the most important too. I didn't do Dorian (yet), I presume that his character is going to be very important in the next game, but in DAI, his link with Tevinter has the same level of importance than Bull with the Qun. I am not a gay men so maybe I bias here but I still think Dorian is an awesome character and great fun, the best romance by far on DA:I. He is probably going to play some role in the next game. So the chance that a good round character that has a lot of moments in the main story arc, being gay is highly unlike. So in the end I prefer bi characters or on that spectrum, everyone wins. Don't lose heart, Bioware may yet surprise us. I'm ever hoping for a mature gay character (looking at you, Vetra). That would be great, I am crossing my fingers for that!
|
|
jymm
N2
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR
Posts: 58 Likes: 133
inherit
2558
0
133
jymm
58
January 2017
jymm
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR
|
Post by jymm on Jan 24, 2017 3:42:22 GMT
I did all the romances in all the bioware games, that being straight or not. Well not Jacob because the way Shepard talked to him creep me out and some on SWTOR. Most of the good romances are just straight or bi, there are some exceptions like Dorian but Gaider is probably responsible for that. Basically what I am saying is that characters that are connect to the story heavily or have more content related to it, are always hetero romances or bi. For example, Cassandra, Morrigan, Solas, Alistair and Leliana in DA and Miranda and Jacob with Cerberus in ME2, Liara in all the ME games. Isabela and Anders are central pieces in DA2 main arcs. All this makes better romances because it gives characters motivation and dept. Since there is a limited amount of resources it makes sense that those characters can always be romanced by the hetero part of the fandom, which are the majority. And since the reality is that, why not open up things for everyone in a bi spectrum. I am just being realistic really and I do not want another NPC or an annoying character with highly problematic issues without any development that can be discard anytime aka Sera. First, I have to say I got that same creep vibe off of the Jacob / FemShep arc. I was thinking "dude, the straight female options are this weirdness or the dying green alien? Seriously!?" Something was clearly off in the dialog writing for the Jacob arc. Back on topic though, I guess you've convinced me, reluctantly. If there's only so many dev hours to go around and the playerbase is 90% hertero then maybe the best bang for the buck (pun intended) is to have most major NPC romance options swing both ways. If they held a vote, I'd vote with you.
|
|
Mihura
N4
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: MihuraL
Posts: 1,303 Likes: 2,754
inherit
1951
0
Jun 10, 2024 22:52:29 GMT
2,754
Mihura
“Major Wulf Khan and the 903rd Catachan ‘Night Shrikes’…”
1,303
November 2016
mihura
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
MihuraL
|
Post by Mihura on Jan 24, 2017 4:00:06 GMT
I did all the romances in all the bioware games, that being straight or not. Well not Jacob because the way Shepard talked to him creep me out and some on SWTOR. Most of the good romances are just straight or bi, there are some exceptions like Dorian but Gaider is probably responsible for that. Basically what I am saying is that characters that are connect to the story heavily or have more content related to it, are always hetero romances or bi. For example, Cassandra, Morrigan, Solas, Alistair and Leliana in DA and Miranda and Jacob with Cerberus in ME2, Liara in all the ME games. Isabela and Anders are central pieces in DA2 main arcs. All this makes better romances because it gives characters motivation and dept. Since there is a limited amount of resources it makes sense that those characters can always be romanced by the hetero part of the fandom, which are the majority. And since the reality is that, why not open up things for everyone in a bi spectrum. I am just being realistic really and I do not want another NPC or an annoying character with highly problematic issues without any development that can be discard anytime aka Sera. First, I have to say I got that same creep vibe off of the Jacob / FemShep arc. I was thinking "dude, the straight female options are this weirdness or the dying green alien? Seriously!?" Something was clearly off in the dialog writing for the Jacob arc. Back on topic though, I guess you've convinced me, reluctantly. If there's only so many dev hours to go around and the playerbase is 90% hertero then maybe the best bang for the buck (pun intended) is to have most major NPC romance options swing both ways. If they held a vote, I'd vote with you. FemShepard had the end of the stick in the ME trilogy, it was so strange to play a straight character and have even weirder choices. Most of the people do not change their stances because this deals with sexual id, so I am not use to see it happening lel
|
|
inherit
Scribbles
185
0
Nov 17, 2024 22:23:52 GMT
31,578
Hanako Ikezawa
22,991
August 2016
hanakoikezawa
|
Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 24, 2017 7:45:57 GMT
*sees people arguing that characters of their sexual orientation aren't prominent enough while sitting in a corner waiting for a character of my sexual orientation to be included at all*
|
|