I want to quit Andromeda Initiative. It's a suicide mission.

This post wins a return trip to Azure for 2 for embracing eternity, easily the best of the extranet today.

On a side note, I think I will tweet Macdogg regarding weapons on the Tempest, if indeed it has no weapons whatsoever, or just no main gun (big difference).

I feel it will have at least something to defend itself, surely...

If you don't care, why did you feel the need to use NASA as an example to justify why this supposedly makes sense?

I mean, obviously this example doesn't prove anything, since as far as we know aliens don't exist, and considering the limitations of our current technology, mounting effective weapons on our spacecraft would be a rather considerable feat in itself. A feat which will likely only become a reality when human nations will discover aliens or will decide to expand their military power into space for other reasons.

The entire point is that if your universe has threats that logically can threaten such an initiative, the logical thing to do in-universe would be to take measures to defend against such threats.
Immersion is all about consistent world-building and a logical universe that follows its own rules.

And those rules, contrary to your claim, have already been established.
We know that the MW has a large variety of threats, from the relatively common and mundane, to things like Collectors, Reapers, and who knows what else.

If you are going to pretend that this world is a living one, with a depth that surpasses cardboard, it would only make sense if the design follows the logic of someone who lives in that world.
What would a responsible visionary that lives in the ME universe do? How will he design something like the Andromeda initiative? What measures will he take to account for possible dangers?

The fact that the writers control the world is entirely irrelevant to all that.

I don't insist that Bioware should write my story, I insist that they should write stories that make sense under their own rules. Obviously a losing battle at this point.
When it comes to this aspect I see a large degree of carelessness.

I wish to see this aspect receiving at the very least the same care the romance arcs receive.

If you don't care, why did you feel the need to use NASA as an example to justify why this supposedly makes sense?

I mean, obviously this example doesn't prove anything, since as far as we know aliens don't exist, and considering the limitations of our current technology, mounting effective weapons on our spacecraft would be a rather considerable feat in itself. A feat which will likely only become a reality when human nations will discover aliens or will decide to expand their military power into space for other reasons.

The entire point is that if your universe has threats that logically can threaten such an initiative, the logical thing to do in-universe would be to take measures to defend against such threats.
Immersion is all about consistent world-building and a logical universe that follows its own rules.

And those rules, contrary to your claim, have already been established.
We know that the MW has a large variety of threats, from the relatively common and mundane, to things like Collectors, Reapers, and who knows what else.

If you are going to pretend that this world is a living one, with a depth that surpasses cardboard, it would only make sense if the design follows the logic of someone who lives in that world.
What would a responsible visionary that lives in the ME universe do? How will he design something like the Andromeda initiative? What measures will he take to account for possible dangers?

The fact that the writers control the world is entirely irrelevant to all that.

I don't insist that Bioware should write my story, I insist that they should write stories that make sense under their own rules. Obviously a losing battle at this point.
When it comes to this aspect I see a large degree of carelessness.

I wish to see this aspect receiving at the very least the same care the romance arcs receive.

If you don't care, why did you feel the need to use NASA as an example to justify why this supposedly makes sense?

I mean, obviously this example doesn't prove anything, since as far as we know aliens don't exist, and considering the limitations of our current technology, mounting effective weapons on our spacecraft would be a rather considerable feat in itself. A feat which will likely only become a reality when human nations will discover aliens or will decide to expand their military power into space for other reasons.

The entire point is that if your universe has threats that logically can threaten such an initiative, the logical thing to do in-universe would be to take measures to defend against such threats.
Immersion is all about consistent world-building and a logical universe that follows its own rules.

And those rules, contrary to your claim, have already been established.
We know that the MW has a large variety of threats, from the relatively common and mundane, to things like Collectors, Reapers, and who knows what else.

If you are going to pretend that this world is a living one, with a depth that surpasses cardboard, it would only make sense if the design follows the logic of someone who lives in that world.
What would a responsible visionary that lives in the ME universe do? How will he design something like the Andromeda initiative? What measures will he take to account for possible dangers?

The fact that the writers control the world is entirely irrelevant to all that.

I don't insist that Bioware should write my story, I insist that they should write stories that make sense under their own rules. Obviously a losing battle at this point.
When it comes to this aspect I see a large degree of carelessness.

I wish to see this aspect receiving at the very least the same care the romance arcs receive.

Though with a mission of this magnitude and cost thats kind of hard to imagine.

Then again, in another universe humans built a planet killing moon-sized space station that could be knocked out by one torpedo of a small fighter craft. Maybe the Andromeda initiative is funded by the Empire. Lots of cash and tech, poor execution and even poorer security.

Well, we do know they either failed greatly with the expectations for the cluster, or straight out lied to the volunteers. Either way people complained and left the Initiative. So I'd say it's a good possibility that the organization has some big flaws.

pdusen

OK. I totally agree that all vehicles are built for some purpose. And exploration vehicle could be built without guns.

But taking into account that fact that our team will encounter numerous enemies, isn't it more logical to replace our exploration vehicle with combat one?

As you said each vehicle had its purpose. Our team will be engaged in battles. Many battles! So isn't COMBAT vehicle more suitable for our team? Because it looks like we are going off-road with sedan. 

pdusen

OK. I totally agree that all vehicles are built for some purpose. And exploration vehicle could be built without guns.

But taking into account that fact that our team will encounter numerous enemies, isn't it more logical to replace our exploration vehicle with combat one?

As you said each vehicle had its purpose. Our team will be engaged in battles. Many battles! So isn't COMBAT vehicle more suitable for our team? Because it looks like we are going off-road with sedan. 

FYI BSN fam