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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 20, 2017 20:09:52 GMT
Comparing the Ai to the travels of the 15th century just do not work in the slightest. The money involved, the risks, the possible profit, the reasons behind it... they are all utterly, totally different. Not even the trips to the moon or SpaceX Mars program can be compared. Nothing can, really, becauce the Ai isn't logical. You say that but that's your opinion. Exploration is a real thing. We've done it and hopefully we'll do it again. "Not logical" is your opinion. Wait, do you think the journeys of the 15th century were financed because people wanted to explore the globe?
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 20, 2017 20:10:38 GMT
Or, as others pointed out, they just wanted to do it. Royalty funded ships to go exploring the "New World" they weren't quite sure existed. Some still thought the Earth was flat but they went anyway. In the end, they thought they'd find a new place to expand into. Is it really far-fetched for a race with 1000+ year lifespan to want to colonize a galaxy that it could potentially control? Comparing the Ai to the travels of the 15th century just do not work in the slightest. The money involved, the risks, the possible profit, the reasons behind it... they are all utterly, totally different. Not even the trips to the moon or SpaceX Mars program can be compared. Nothing can, really, becauce the Ai isn't logical. I do agree that the travels of the 15th century aren't comparable, although in terms of risk I'd say they were far closer then the other topics. Spending billions on a single, dead man (which is lore breaking regardless), because he was supposed to be the only one supposed to be able to stop the Reapers is as illogical of going to Andromeda only for exploring/colonizing.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jan 20, 2017 20:15:23 GMT
Is it really far-fetched for a race with 1000+ year lifespan to want to colonize a galaxy that it could potentially control? Last I checked, it wasn't asari and krogan alone on this trip. Though I could get behind seeing the butthurt of some people if ME:A were asari-only.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 20, 2017 20:15:53 GMT
Or, as others pointed out, they just wanted to do it. Royalty funded ships to go exploring the "New World" they weren't quite sure existed. Some still thought the Earth was flat but they went anyway. In the end, they thought they'd find a new place to expand into. Is it really far-fetched for a race with 1000+ year lifespan to want to colonize a galaxy that it could potentially control? This is inaccurate. The vast majority of the world knew that the Earth was round by the Age of Exploration. For Europe, they knew that for nearly two thousand years ever since the ancient Greeks figured it out. That's why they sent the exploration ships across the Atlantic, since they knew eventually it would come back to India and they'd have new and possibly better trade routes. They didn't even know the Americas were there until Columbus(he wasn't the first but they ignored the others) literally ran into them. After that, they sent ships to explore this new world in order to increase their wealth, prestige, etc. There were reasons behind those expeditions beyond just exploration or curiosity or "just wanted to do it".
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 20, 2017 20:17:59 GMT
Europe was not 99% unexplored. Europe also wasn't about to be invaded by an ancient race of machines that has wiped out all life it encountered before. That is: 1)a separate reason from exploration, and likely one most people would accept 2)so far, not the reason for the Initiative. While it might be the secret reason behind it, so far the Initiative's reasoning isn't that.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 20, 2017 20:19:44 GMT
Comparing the Ai to the travels of the 15th century just do not work in the slightest. The money involved, the risks, the possible profit, the reasons behind it... they are all utterly, totally different. Not even the trips to the moon or SpaceX Mars program can be compared. Nothing can, really, becauce the Ai isn't logical. I do agree that the travels of the 15th century aren't comparable, although in terms of risk I'd say they were far closer then the other topics. Spending trillions on a single, dead man (which is lore breaking regardless), because he was supposed to be the only one supposed to be able to stop the Reapers is as illogical of going to Andromeda only for exploring/colonizing. I thought it was 4 billion credits or something like that. Rebuilding Shepard probably cost more than the Normandy SR2. But even if it was similar or double the cost that's still not trillions. I don't know if bringing the dead back to life it lore breaking. It make not be impossible in 20 years from now let along 160. Now, inconsistencies exist, like hearing in ME3 that Shepard's helmet kept their brain intact but we found that helmet on Alchera in ME2. If it was all that was keeping Shepard's brain together there's no way whoever recovered the body ditched that helmet before bringing Shepard to Cerberus. I get that ME is not a perfect trilogy and I doubt ME:A will be perfect. Yet, I've found the MET to be highly enjoyable despite its flaws. The flaw I hate the most is when my vanguard gets stuck in a crate or something like that. Still, none of this stuff is game breaking for me. Obviously, some people are committed to hating this game. It's entirely their prerogative. I just don't see why they need to attempt to make other people hate the game with them.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 20, 2017 20:23:35 GMT
Or, as others pointed out, they just wanted to do it. Royalty funded ships to go exploring the "New World" they weren't quite sure existed. Some still thought the Earth was flat but they went anyway. In the end, they thought they'd find a new place to expand into. Is it really far-fetched for a race with 1000+ year lifespan to want to colonize a galaxy that it could potentially control? This is inaccurate. The vast majority of the world knew that the Earth was round by the Age of Exploration. For Europe, they knew that for nearly two thousand years ever since the ancient Greeks figured it out. That's why they sent the exploration ships across the Atlantic, since they knew eventually it would come back to India and they'd have new and possibly better trade routes. They didn't even know the Americas were there until Columbus(he wasn't the first but they ignored the others) literally ran into them. After that, they sent ships to explore this new world in order to increase their wealth, prestige, etc. There were reasons behind those expeditions beyond just exploration or curiosity or "just wanted to do it". Yup. Columbus figured he could make the trip because he lowballed the estimated size of the Atlantic. If the Americas weren't right about where he figured Asia was he'd have died at sea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 20:23:44 GMT
Thing I'm taking away from all this,
haters gunna hate
fanboys/girls gunna... fan... um?
So many ME:A threads lately just seem to be going round in circles I don't even know anymore
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 20, 2017 20:24:24 GMT
Is it really far-fetched for a race with 1000+ year lifespan to want to colonize a galaxy that it could potentially control? Last I checked, it wasn't asari and krogan alone on this trip. Though I could get behind seeing the butthurt of some people if ME:A were asari-only. I know, but I was thinking in terms of financing and influence, the asari probably have the most. Or not, but it seems like they might. If they could influence the other races to make this happen it's not unreasonable and would be beneficial for them. Now, I've said that but I'm aware that the AI seems to have been initiated by a human. I'm still down for adventure and exploration. Even if you think the premise is flawed (too costly and far away) it could still lead to a fun game. Ultimately, that's what I'm looking for. I mean, I grew up reading comics. Even the non-powered characters are capable of things humans just can't do. Yet, we deal with it and move on and hopefully enjoy the story regardless. Same can happen here.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 20, 2017 20:28:42 GMT
Or, as others pointed out, they just wanted to do it. Royalty funded ships to go exploring the "New World" they weren't quite sure existed. Some still thought the Earth was flat but they went anyway. In the end, they thought they'd find a new place to expand into. Is it really far-fetched for a race with 1000+ year lifespan to want to colonize a galaxy that it could potentially control? This is inaccurate. The vast majority of the world knew that the Earth was round by the Age of Exploration. For Europe, they knew that for nearly two thousand years ever since the ancient Greeks figured it out. That's why they sent the exploration ships across the Atlantic, since they knew eventually it would come back to India and they'd have new and possibly better trade routes. They didn't even know the Americas were there until Columbus(he wasn't the first but they ignored the others) literally ran into them. After that, they sent ships to explore this new world in order to increase their wealth, prestige, etc. There were reasons behind those expeditions beyond just exploration or curiosity or "just wanted to do it". Granted, other than that I did my conditional "some" for a reason. Sometimes I forget my history. Even so, why do you all want me to hate ME:A before it comes out? Can you answer that one?
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 20, 2017 20:31:15 GMT
I do agree that the travels of the 15th century aren't comparable, although in terms of risk I'd say they were far closer then the other topics. Spending trillions on a single, dead man (which is lore breaking regardless), because he was supposed to be the only one supposed to be able to stop the Reapers is as illogical of going to Andromeda only for exploring/colonizing. I thought it was 4 billion credits or something like that. Rebuilding Shepard probably cost more than the Normandy SR2. But even if it was similar or double the cost that's still not trillions. I don't know if bringing the dead back to life it lore breaking. It make not be impossible in 20 years from now let along 160. Now, inconsistencies exist, like hearing in ME3 that Shepard's helmet kept their brain intact but we found that helmet on Alchera in ME2. If it was all that was keeping Shepard's brain together there's no way whoever recovered the body ditched that helmet before bringing Shepard to Cerberus. I get that ME is not a perfect trilogy and I doubt ME:A will be perfect. Yet, I've found the MET to be highly enjoyable despite its flaws. The flaw I hate the most is when my vanguard gets stuck in a crate or something like that. Still, none of this stuff is game breaking for me. Obviously, some people are committed to hating this game. It's entirely their prerogative. I just don't see why they need to attempt to make other people hate the game with them. I meant billions, I'll edit my post. The fact that it might be possibly in our future doesn't matter much for ME. It still goes against the lore set in the game, especially because Bioware didn't really gave any explanation on how it was possible. The very fact that they've been inconsistent with the description of what happened to Shep is another proof they really didn't think it much. The ressurrection being lore breaking doesn't mean it's necessarily something gamebreaking. It depends on the person. I enjoyed the trilogy overall despite that and other flaws in different fields. It doesn't mean I shouldn't point out something that it lore breaking and illogical.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 20, 2017 20:32:38 GMT
This is inaccurate. The vast majority of the world knew that the Earth was round by the Age of Exploration. For Europe, they knew that for nearly two thousand years ever since the ancient Greeks figured it out. That's why they sent the exploration ships across the Atlantic, since they knew eventually it would come back to India and they'd have new and possibly better trade routes. They didn't even know the Americas were there until Columbus(he wasn't the first but they ignored the others) literally ran into them. After that, they sent ships to explore this new world in order to increase their wealth, prestige, etc. There were reasons behind those expeditions beyond just exploration or curiosity or "just wanted to do it". Granted, other than that I did my conditional "some" for a reason. Sometimes I forget my history. Even so, why do you all want me to hate ME:A before it comes out? Can you answer that one? Nobody want you to hate MEA before it comes out. I don't hate MEA. It doesn't mean I can't point out things I don't like or am concerned about.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 20, 2017 20:34:48 GMT
Granted, other than that I did my conditional "some" for a reason. Sometimes I forget my history. Even so, why do you all want me to hate ME:A before it comes out? Can you answer that one? Nobody want you to hate MEA before it comes out. I don't hate MEA. It doesn't mean I can't point out things I don't like or am concerned about. Not you. That's why it wasn't in response to one of your posts. There are people here who are literally trying to make people dislike this game before it comes out. One poster even said the goal was to get people to protest by not buying.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 20, 2017 20:37:13 GMT
This is inaccurate. The vast majority of the world knew that the Earth was round by the Age of Exploration. For Europe, they knew that for nearly two thousand years ever since the ancient Greeks figured it out. That's why they sent the exploration ships across the Atlantic, since they knew eventually it would come back to India and they'd have new and possibly better trade routes. They didn't even know the Americas were there until Columbus(he wasn't the first but they ignored the others) literally ran into them. After that, they sent ships to explore this new world in order to increase their wealth, prestige, etc. There were reasons behind those expeditions beyond just exploration or curiosity or "just wanted to do it". Yup. Columbus figured he could make the trip because he lowballed the estimated size of the Atlantic. If the Americas weren't right about where he figured Asia was he'd have died at sea. Well, to be fair to Columbus he did have a decent guess about the size of the Atlantic. He just thought on the other side was China and India, not knowing that there was an even bigger ocean the Pacific between where he thought they were and where they actually were. But yeah luckily for him and his crew, there was a North America-sized continent in the way that let them survive. This is inaccurate. The vast majority of the world knew that the Earth was round by the Age of Exploration. For Europe, they knew that for nearly two thousand years ever since the ancient Greeks figured it out. That's why they sent the exploration ships across the Atlantic, since they knew eventually it would come back to India and they'd have new and possibly better trade routes. They didn't even know the Americas were there until Columbus(he wasn't the first but they ignored the others) literally ran into them. After that, they sent ships to explore this new world in order to increase their wealth, prestige, etc. There were reasons behind those expeditions beyond just exploration or curiosity or "just wanted to do it". Granted, other than that I did my conditional "some" for a reason. Sometimes I forget my history. Even so, why do you all want me to hate ME:A before it comes out? Can you answer that one? I don't want you to hate Mass Effect: Andromeda. I don't even want to hate Mass Effect: Andromeda, but Bioware has made quite a few decisions regarding it that has caused me apprehension and concern about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 20:39:56 GMT
Thing I'm taking away from all this, haters gunna hate fanboys/girls gunna... fan... um? So many ME:A threads lately just seem to be going round in circles I don't even know anymore There isn't much to go on; I think it's impressive that people find so many topics of discussion in the first place. Though maybe it's worth mentioning that the range of critical attitudes one can take with respect to this game, or ME, or BioWare, or games, or anything in general isn't exhausted by 'fanboy' and 'hater'. The AI really, really, sounds like an unreasonable enterprise based on what we currently know; but pointing this out doesn't make anyone a 'hater', I think. I still expect there to be a secret rationale, to be discovered in the course of the game. Possibly having to do with advance intelligence of the Reaper danger.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 20, 2017 20:40:50 GMT
Nobody want you to hate MEA before it comes out. I don't hate MEA. It doesn't mean I can't point out things I don't like or am concerned about. Not you. That's why it wasn't in response to one of your posts. There are people here who are literally trying to make people dislike this game before it comes out. One poster even said the goal was to get people to protest by not buying. Well, judging the people that posted in the last pages, like Iakus , @hanako Ikezawa and SofNascimento , they're not people that hate the franchise. They just point out the things they don't like or are concerned about. There might be people doing what you said, but they are the minority of those who have problems with Andromeda, and not among the ones talking in the last page, I think.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 20, 2017 20:41:07 GMT
Yup. Columbus figured he could make the trip because he lowballed the estimated size of the Atlantic. If the Americas weren't right about where he figured Asia was he'd have died at sea. Well, to be fair to Columbus he did have a decent guess about the size of the Atlantic. He just thought on the other side was China and India, not knowing that there was an even bigger ocean the Pacific between where he thought they were and where they actually were. But yeah luckily for him and his crew, there was a North America-sized continent in the way that let them survive. Granted, other than that I did my conditional "some" for a reason. Sometimes I forget my history. Even so, why do you all want me to hate ME:A before it comes out? Can you answer that one? I don't want you to hate Mass Effect: Andromeda. I don't even want to hate Mass Effect: Andromeda, but Bioware has made quite a few decisions regarding it that has caused me apprehension and concern about it. Yeah, that comment didn't really belong with you. I think it was a reaction to some other posts. I'm fine with flaws being pointed out. I see plenty of flaws in the original trilogy. I just love them anyway.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 20, 2017 20:43:19 GMT
Well, to be fair to Columbus he did have a decent guess about the size of the Atlantic. He just thought on the other side was China and India, not knowing that there was an even bigger ocean the Pacific between where he thought they were and where they actually were. But yeah luckily for him and his crew, there was a North America-sized continent in the way that let them survive. I don't want you to hate Mass Effect: Andromeda. I don't even want to hate Mass Effect: Andromeda, but Bioware has made quite a few decisions regarding it that has caused me apprehension and concern about it. Yeah, that comment didn't really belong with you. I think it was a reaction to some other posts. I'm fine with flaws being pointed out. I see plenty of flaws in the original trilogy. I just love them anyway. Ah, okay. Just answered since it was in your reply to me so thought it was directed at me.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 20, 2017 20:53:25 GMT
Not you. That's why it wasn't in response to one of your posts. There are people here who are literally trying to make people dislike this game before it comes out. One poster even said the goal was to get people to protest by not buying. Well, judging the people that posted in the last pages, like Iakus , @hanako Ikezawa and SofNascimento , they're not people that hate the franchise. They just point out the things they don't like or are concerned about. There might be people doing what you said, but they are the minority of those who have problems with Andromeda, and not among the ones talking in the last page, I think. I don't hate Mass Effect. I think the setting is full of potential. As the poster says "I Want To Believe" But I see little to love about MEA either.
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I do agree that the travels of the 15th century aren't comparable, although in terms of risk I'd say they were far closer then the other topics. Spending trillions on a single, dead man (which is lore breaking regardless), because he was supposed to be the only one supposed to be able to stop the Reapers is as illogical of going to Andromeda only for exploring/colonizing. I thought it was 4 billion credits or something like that. Rebuilding Shepard probably cost more than the Normandy SR2. But even if it was similar or double the cost that's still not trillions. I don't know if bringing the dead back to life it lore breaking. It make not be impossible in 20 years from now let along 160. Now, inconsistencies exist, like hearing in ME3 that Shepard's helmet kept their brain intact but we found that helmet on Alchera in ME2. If it was all that was keeping Shepard's brain together there's no way whoever recovered the body ditched that helmet before bringing Shepard to Cerberus. I get that ME is not a perfect trilogy and I doubt ME:A will be perfect. Yet, I've found the MET to be highly enjoyable despite its flaws. The flaw I hate the most is when my vanguard gets stuck in a crate or something like that. Still, none of this stuff is game breaking for me. Obviously, some people are committed to hating this game. It's entirely their prerogative. I just don't see why they need to attempt to make other people hate the game with them. Even though I do think that bring Shepard back from the dead cost a fraction of the AI, I do think it is essentially as illogical as the AI might be. Shepard himself thought it completely illogical - "You could have raised an army for what it cost to bring me back." What makes it so illogical is not the cost, but the belief that one man could be even remotely key to stopping a force so powerful and so numerous (legion in numbers). This takes the literary theme of one person being able to make a difference and shoots it way, way off the map. The logical thing for TIM to have done would have been to not waste 2 years trying to revive one guy/gal... but to have raised that army and to have also gone out to prove the existence of the Reapers to the rest of the galaxy (by, say, fixing Vigil or piecing together the fragments of Sovereign or finding Shiala and just talking with her???... or even just investigating more of the colony disappearances and derelict Reapers that he seemed to be well enough able to do in order to send Shepard to locations during ME2). Instead, he wasted 2 whole years just trying to revive a single dead guy/gal.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 20, 2017 21:03:52 GMT
Yeah, that comment didn't really belong with you. I think it was a reaction to some other posts. I'm fine with flaws being pointed out. I see plenty of flaws in the original trilogy. I just love them anyway. Ah, okay. Just answered since it was in your reply to me so thought it was directed at me. No, I was aiming it at you but I realize in retrospect I shouldn't have. It was emotional reaction to a number of posts [by a number of people] rather than logical. I apologize for that.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 20, 2017 21:10:58 GMT
Nothing BioWare ever does ever will wow you like Witcher 3 did. Just accept it. SO true. I love Bioware and all. But CDPR is just playing on a whole other level. That said. The DAI marketing campaign was godawful. A year beforehand they showed a completely different game. I swore to myself I'll never believe any gameplay video bioware releases anymore ever. And it's made me a lot happier. This time around, I can just look at the flashiness and think: "huh, it'll be neat!" instead of obsessing over the small details in every video and be dissapointed afterwards. Bioware thaught me a hard lesson, but it's made me a happier man. Thanks for that! A. I was being sarcastic. I was saying for him Dutchsghost, someone who is known for coming out and saying how great awesome the Witcher 3 is while at the same time poo pooing on DA I in very extreme terms over and over and over again, so much so that he has been acused of being a troll, that BioWare will not be able to compete with the gloriousness of Witcher 3...in his opinion. Since I (and others) consider DA I to be a better game then Witcher 3 I disagree. B. If you are talking about the Crestwood Demo then most of what was in that demo was in the actual game...a private demo which was not meant to be public. The combat system? Check. Decisions which matter and impact the Inquisition? Check. Decisions which effect the world and even block off story content? Check. Taking of Keeps? Check. Interactivity with the world to provide tactical advantages? Check Anyways which just basically leaves choosing what you do with said keeps and then some of the interactivity with the War table. They either have to be fleeing the Reapers or there has to be something that calls them to Andromeda, some not yet revealed alien presence for some reasons we can only hope will be good. Anything else (including/especially "just lolexploring") is dumb. They aren't 'just exploring' though. The reasons for going to the Andromeda Galaxy has nothing to do with the Reapers, at least that we know publicaly, and I doubt it has anything to do with an alien presence considering that would stretch the lore (way more then they are already doing to boot). I mean I suppose, and suspect, that there is a bit more to the AI then we have been told...but there you go. Or, as others pointed out, they just wanted to do it. Royalty funded ships to go exploring the "New World" they weren't quite sure existed. Some still thought the Earth was flat but they went anyway. In the end, they thought they'd find a new place to expand into. Is it really far-fetched for a race with 1000+ year lifespan to want to colonize a galaxy that it could potentially control? Comparing the Ai to the travels of the 15th century just do not work in the slightest. The money involved, the risks, the possible profit, the reasons behind it... they are all utterly, totally different. Not even the trips to the moon or SpaceX Mars program can be compared. Nothing can, really, becauce the Ai isn't logical. It works very much. The technology, stakes, and even reactions were pretty much the same. Granted the precise amount of time wasn't but Columbus (for instance) going west to explore the world was considered very risky and dangerous. He was considered an idiot. So much so I am highly surprised the authorities which financed the expedition financed the expedition. And the motivations for financing, and launching, said expedition, was virtually the same. For money, exploration, resources, etc. Then when you jump ahead...30 years in the future...Magellan set out from Spain for very similar reasons. Money. Resources. Find a quick trade route to Asia. And he died, and most of his ships either sunk or turned back. I mean its clear these are the parralels BioWare is trying to draw from a historical perspective its not even funny.
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Post by helios969 on Jan 20, 2017 21:12:56 GMT
Dare to criticize, you're a hater. Disagree with the "hater" and you're a fanboy/girl. I would say people that label either way belong in the same category: Dumb.
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Post by blanks on Jan 20, 2017 21:13:51 GMT
How does the motivation for resources/wealth make sense with Andromeda if it's being billed/pushed as a one way trip? I think you can make the case for lebensraum given the peril most colonies face in the Milky Way. I saw a fan-made timeline that pins the start of the Ai next to the attack on Elysium, so that itself can be seen as a powerful motivator. The Age of Exploration certainly had advances in tech going for it with the sextant, better maps/ships, etc. There was also a huge religious component to it that we don't quite have with Ai, at least none that we know of just yet.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jan 20, 2017 21:31:13 GMT
They aren't 'just exploring' though. The reasons for going to the Andromeda Galaxy has nothing to do with the Reapers, at least that we know publicaly, and I doubt it has anything to do with an alien presence considering that would stretch the lore (way more then they are already doing to boot). I mean I suppose, and suspect, that there is a bit more to the AI then we have been told...but there you go. I repeat. You have two reasons that will make this work: 1. They're running from the Reapers. I suspect this is still the most likely. You don't call your ships "Arks" if you're out for a stroll. I can see this not being part of the media campaign in RL or in-universe for obvious reasons, but the actual reason has to be this, or; 2. The leaders of AI are contacted by some alien presence and urged to come to Andromeda for some reason. What the identity and the motive behind the call is, why it was made just to these people and not the galaxy at large is up in the air. As you can probably tell this is more of a holding action. It could make sense or it could be incredibly dumb, final judgement to be postponed. Without details and answers to who and why, this could be anything. We may not get the answers this game. That's it. Anything else, including "lolexploring for the hell of it" is pure nonsense. And trying to justify it with old ship exploring doesn't work. As that article I found about Columbus which you never got back to said, exploring was a bit of a fool's errand that never got proper funding in terms of ships and equipment or was done solely for the purposes of establishing/enriching trade. In other words, for capitalism. Whereas the AI is obviously (and necessarily) top of the line and there's fuck all economic benefit to be gained from it for the rest of the galaxy. Not to mention that there's plenty of the Milky Way still left to explore that offers a hell of a lot better chances of return on investment.
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