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Post by Sartoz on Jan 22, 2017 1:05:51 GMT
Eh, DAI had a handful of decent mods, and not all of them were texture changes. I don't know if we'll get anything as extensive as the Origins and NWN days or anything Bethesda like where they had dedicated modding tools that shipped with the game, but if modders could crack DAI's Frostbite in a short amount of time, I don't see why they couldn't with MEA. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
No doubt SP touch up mods are the first ones to be changed (I'm thinking hair).
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Post by DalishRanger on Jan 22, 2017 1:25:21 GMT
Hair would come soon, I imagine, yes. Usually I see retextures crop up first, but they're among the simplest mods to make. Hair mods require importing and converting hair models from other games, or a new model. They're still often one of the earlier mods after retextures.
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Post by ravenous on Jan 22, 2017 14:46:28 GMT
Lol, DAI would be almost perfect game to me if not for that boring, MMO style fetch quests, and uninteresting, almost empty hubs, with no interesting side quests or characters in it (ME1, ME2, DAO and even DA2 had some), other than that I loved the game, well maybe main story with ''Coryfagus'' was lame too, but at least it has some depth in it. Also most companions were good and with cool stories, I loved Blackwall story in all, also Solas was cool and I liked Josephine. So.. my point is that if MEA will improve in those aspects at least a little, then it will be GOTY for me for sure E: Respawning enemies every corner in DAI was really pain in the bu** I would really love to see modding tools for MEA, so even if they will do something that many players dislikes, at least modders would be able to fix/improve it. But Frostbite is not that mod friendly.. you do know that just about every game out there before MMO's even became relevant/mainstream had fetch quests or variants on them, then mmo's came about and they followed with the fetch quest. Even now today if you look at the games that are out now you will see just about every game out there will have quests where you go to somewhere get something and come back
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Post by lukensen87 on Jan 22, 2017 15:03:13 GMT
At least older games had some cinematics/conversations even for such quests, also they often was not only fetch quests, I mean at first they seam like ''normal'' fetch quests but later they turned to something more interesting, that was the case mostly in DAO and ME1 for some of such quests. Also just because fetch quests was before MMO's does not mean I have to like them in any games
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Post by xassantex on Jan 22, 2017 15:12:38 GMT
39 pages about skepticism. feels like a climate changes argument .
i'm not skeptical about that game . what can i say, i'm easy.
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Post by DalishRanger on Jan 22, 2017 20:34:30 GMT
39 pages about skepticism. feels like a climate changes argument . i'm not skeptical about that game . what can i say, i'm easy. It's not all skeptics despite the topic. I could nitpick some details but I'm not personally skeptical. I'm quite excited for Andromeda, in fact. But people have different thresholds on what concerns them or are even excited but are more vocal about the things that concern them. Not to mention there are valid reasons for people to be skeptical, even if you and I aren't in that camp. I'm just glad the discussion's been fairly civil and engaging. On the old BSN this would have long ago devolved into flame wars and complete toxicity.
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Post by javeart on Jan 22, 2017 21:01:43 GMT
39 pages about skepticism. feels like a climate changes argument . i'm not skeptical about that game . what can i say, i'm easy. It's not all skeptics despite the topic. I could nitpick some details but I'm not personally skeptical. I'm quite excited for Andromeda, in fact. But people have different thresholds on what concerns them or are even excited but are more vocal about the things that concern them. Not to mention there are valid reasons for people to be skeptical, even if you and I aren't in that camp. I'm just glad the discussion's been fairly civil and engaging. On the old BSN this would have long ago devolved into flame wars and complete toxicity. I'm very much like that I rarely bother to argue in favour of the changes made in combat, or the both ridiculous and amazing cabin we're getting in the Tempest or other things that I like, at best I'll give likes to the people that do (if I don't stop reading the thread entirely)... But then, I take any chance to complain about the new emphasis in exploration and big maps, that is literally the only thing that could kill a little my hype well, I'm still worried about the different personalities for Scott and Sara, but we'll see... And I promise that it's not because I'm focusing only in the negative because I'm awfuly hyped
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jan 23, 2017 22:34:16 GMT
39 pages about skepticism. feels like a climate changes argument . OT Snow fell in the Sahara Desert. Where I live, there is no autumn, no snow but I'm expecting something to change in the years to come. Now, we're having out of sync unusual heavy rainfall. The night is cold, the tiniest breath a patch of white mist on the glass as I look out and wonder what is to come.
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Post by peebee on Jan 23, 2017 23:11:18 GMT
I'm not skeptical, I'm hyped but News, where are you? IGN? Anyone? I need my fix
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Post by colfoley on Jan 23, 2017 23:14:16 GMT
I'm not skeptical, I'm hyped but News, where are you? IGN? Anyone? I need my fix I honestly think IGN was...exagerating...things.
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Post by peebee on Jan 23, 2017 23:30:11 GMT
I'm not skeptical, I'm hyped but News, where are you? IGN? Anyone? I need my fix I honestly think IGN was...exagerating...things. I guess... I could swear I read somewhere there'd be some kind of January coverage? It turned February coverage then? Or maybe it's just an article? Also I wouldn't mind the Beta MP releasing early February. What's your bet?
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Post by colfoley on Jan 23, 2017 23:34:12 GMT
I honestly think IGN was...exagerating...things. I guess... I could swear I read somewhere there'd be some kind of January coverage? It turned February coverage then? Or maybe it's just an article? Also I wouldn't mind the Beta MP releasing early February. What's your bet? I am more then confident we will see a Beta in February. As far as I can tell though there are I suppose two possibilities with IGN's coverage for Andromeda: Theory A: That coverage has indeed moved back because they truly want to create a marketing blitz in February/ March. Or my favorite B: IGN saw GIs coverage and went ooooh what a neat idea we should market something like that! Without actually having anything to really show. We'll see though.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 23, 2017 23:52:42 GMT
The reviews will be very good, giving high scores, as expected.
I'll buy the game only to be mildly entertained by its mediocre-ness in a very shallow way.
I'll weep for its wasted potential and all the things that could have been so much better with a few tweaks.
Knowing the future is boring and frustrating at the same time.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 23, 2017 23:54:36 GMT
The reviews will be very good, giving high scores, as expected. I'll by the game only to be mildly entertained by its mediocre-ness in a very shallow way. I'll weep for its wasted potential and all the things that could have been so much better with a few tweaks. Knowing the future is boring and frustrating at the same time. Can you give me the numbers to next week's lottery by any chance?
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Post by Cirvante on Jan 23, 2017 23:58:50 GMT
Lol, DAI would be almost perfect game to me if not for that boring, MMO style fetch quests, and uninteresting, almost empty hubs, with no interesting side quests or characters in it (ME1, ME2, DAO and even DA2 had some), other than that I loved the game, well maybe main story with ''Coryfagus'' was lame too, but at least it has some depth in it. I don't really wanna derail the thread too much but calling DA Is 'fetch quests' 'MMO-like' rings very, very, hollow to me. So much so its kind of disengenious. Fetch quests/ collections have exisisted in gaming long before the rise of the MMO to the point where pretty much every video game genre has their own twist on the mechanic. Which, yes granted, a lot of the quests were fetch quests (especially in the Hinterlands). But some zones had 1, 2,3 really, really, really interesting quests here and there. Heck some of the fetch quests also had interesting implications. Sure, it was a flaw in the game story/ design but...at least imo...its own that has been way, way, way, overblown. Also imo, as I have stated elsewhere, I tend to view 'side quests/ collection stuff' as being over all very unimportant to how I view games. Its right down there with graphics on my terms of things I just go 'shrug' about. Kind of especially in the case of DA I where so much of the content really is optional. Especially now that they have patched the game. To me it seemed like "Hey look, we're open world now! lol not really, but here's a laundry list of unimportant shit to do to artificially fill up the gigantic zones we created." I would often unlock new zones thinking "Man, that's gonna be a fucking chore again." Bit of a shame really, since I enjoyed the story and the lore. I only ever get that same impression from mmorpgs.
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Post by Mihura on Jan 24, 2017 0:33:07 GMT
The reviews will be very good, giving high scores, as expected. I'll by the game only to be mildly entertained by its mediocre-ness in a very shallow way. I'll weep for its wasted potential and all the things that could have been so much better with a few tweaks. Knowing the future is boring and frustrating at the same time.
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Post by peebee on Jan 24, 2017 0:44:18 GMT
The reviews will be very good, giving high scores, as expected. I'll by the game only to be mildly entertained by its mediocre-ness in a very shallow way. I'll weep for its wasted potential and all the things that could have been so much better with a few tweaks. Knowing the future is boring and frustrating at the same time.
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Post by xassantex on Jan 24, 2017 3:55:46 GMT
39 pages about skepticism. feels like a climate changes argument . OT Snow fell in the Sahara Desert. Where I live, there is no autumn, no snow but I'm expecting something to change in the years to come. Now, we're having out of sync unusual heavy rainfall. The night is cold, the tiniest breath a patch of white mist on the glass as I look out and wonder what is to come. well, there's constantly snow in Hollywood and no one is surprised.
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Post by Mihura on Jan 24, 2017 4:04:40 GMT
Anyways... I do find it a little bit funny/ ironic that the BioWare marketing campaign has pretty much already addressed many of these...issues. Really. The BioWare mareting campaign for Andromeda has been one of the most interesting ideas in its conception if not in its actual execution. If you do not like the idea of the AI, if you think its stupid, dumb, illogical, if you do not feel safe with the Andromeda Iniative, you don't have to volunteer. IE you do not have to buy the game. Its, as I said, a very interesting melding of real world and the game world. Now as far as the in game writing is concerned. I'm not worried. Why? Because its BioWare. A company who has always been solid in terms of their story and character writing...in fact they have been pretty excellent in those qualities. I am biased in favor of BioWare. Why? Because they have built up a level of trust and expectation with me. My favorite game of all time is a BioWare game. My Second favorite game of all time is probably a BioWare game. And I have never played a game of theirs below Tier 3, the worse BioWare game I've ever played (Dragon Age Origins) I still ended up liking quite a bit. And despite the 310 hours I have put into BioWare games (Ie on my first/ longest playthrough of each game...though I am not counting Awakening...damn) I have only found two examples of their writing that have been especially bad. The ending of ME 3 and Liara T'soni. So I trust them to make a good game and a good game from a writing perspective. Wheras in fact all these problems that people have pointed out with the AI? BioWare has acknowledged many of them in the in game marketing and has given us enough of an indication that their usual writing quality is being maintained. Because, and I am not going to go into all the reasons for fear of spoilers and I have discussed them at length elsewhere, the Andromeda Iniative gets to the AG and then everything pretty much goes straight to hell. So that just leaves the Gameplay as my only real concern, personally. And I think most of the worries about this game are being levelled at the gameplay rather then at the story or characters or setting. And that's because they are trying to do so much new with the game. Will the Profile system work? Wil the 'three power limit' be restrictive or will it work? Will the game abandoning classes be a good move? Will their be enough role playing options? Etc, etc. etc. (Though I will admit the Ryders are getting a fair amount of hand wringing too) I agree with this but the real question here is, can I play the game like The Witcher 3? jk Their marketing team is pretty good this time around, they know what they are doing and the game gives a feeling of maturity and hope in the future for the core fandom and still has explosions for the mainstream. So yes they are being smart with the PR side of the game.
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Jan 24, 2017 19:47:18 GMT
Its still a bit strange that its about 50 days until release and we still don't know what the premise of the story is about. Thats leaving it super late. About too late now for people that don't follow mass effect to find out what its about.
I mean we know they travel to andromeda between ME2 and ME3 to establish colonies on the golden worlds of the helios cluster and they run into something called the Kett an the remnant. The remnant have vaults. Does anyone else know anything about the main story thats confirmed. Why are we fighting the kett? What are the stakes etc??
With the other mass effect games, we knew the general story way before launch.
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