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Post by Madflavor on Jan 30, 2017 0:38:36 GMT
You're right, there's definitely more likes than dislikes on youtube. But man I've been lurking around many different websites, and going by comments alone, there's without question a lot of negativity being thrown at the game. Neogaf and Reddit seem to be the worst. I swear if you never saw any of the footage of this game, and just read the comments on there, you would think ME:A would straight up be a bad game. There's people who are excited for it, but there definitely seems to be a 50/50 ratio (based on comments) between people who think it looks good and people who think it looks generic. The only two places where things seem to be more tame is the BSN and /r/MassEffect. Everywhere else as lots of naysayers. What I find particularly frustrating though, is the majority of complaints being thrown at the game are either poorly worded, or just flat out illogical. People are already passing judgement on the characters being boring, despite knowing anything about them. Not to mention the story is already being called generic looking, even though the game isn't out yet. It just seems like there's more people than usual, that are sharpening their knives already. Well thankfully the sorts of poorly worded and illogical nonsense is a rarity here I've found. People are more than entitled to have skepticism about the game, much like people can be hyped about it. I've found there is a sort of middle ground on this site, where the two can discuss and theorize at length, and while it can go on a bit sometimes, it never extends in the sorts of posts you see at NeoGaf and Reddit. I've never been on any of those sites since I've heard a lot of negative stuff about them, so I tend to stay here where things are pretty great as far as discussions go and engaging with fellow fans on all sorts of topics on the series. I agree that passing judgments on elements of the game that we have yet to experience is premature, but on the other side of things, I suppose you could also argue that people like me and others getting hyped about the game we haven't played is also premature. Stick around here, you'll find there's a really great mix of people, and even if it feels like there are loads who are against the game, they are allowed that view, but also they express that view in a mature and respectful way, unlike those on YT comments and elsewhere on the internet Thanks. Yeah Neogaf is really reaaaally bad from what I've seen. I find value in it over that fact that it's probably one of the best places to find early impressions or spoilers (if you're into that thing) on games, but generally speaking there does seem to be a lot of jaded people and elitists over there. I used to post on the BSN a lot before it was shut down, but glad to see it was revived by fans.
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 30, 2017 1:27:25 GMT
Now here's a thread that I can find a safe harbour in. I find that pretty hard to believe. The hate towards ME:A has been very rampart on pretty much all outlets. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Jan 30, 2017 2:42:22 GMT
Looks like the ships sinking for bioware.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Jan 30, 2017 2:44:33 GMT
Is bioware avoiding showing proper gameplay footage so as to not "spoil" the drones?
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Post by colejj on Jan 30, 2017 2:50:20 GMT
Is bioware avoiding showing proper gameplay footage so as to not "spoil" the drones? What "gameplay" are you looking for? We've seen a fair bit of combat, and some cinematics.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Jan 30, 2017 2:52:00 GMT
1. Aaryn Flynn has stated many times there's a ~15 minute vertical slice gameplay demo coming next month. 2. There is an official gameplay footage based trailer...but you knew that mayne. Hardly....it was pretty well rounded (wack facials and all lol), now...the CES footage, that was quickly spliced
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Jan 30, 2017 2:52:25 GMT
Is bioware avoiding showing proper gameplay footage so as to not "spoil" the drones? What "gameplay" are you looking for? We've seen a fair bit of combat, and some cinematics. no need to be disingenuous. Oh and mp will be peer 2 peer, and its 2017.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Jan 30, 2017 2:53:32 GMT
1. Aaryn Flynn has stated many times there's a ~15 minute vertical slice gameplay demo coming next month. 2. There is an official gameplay footage based trailer...but you knew that mayne. >quickly spliced footage
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Post by colejj on Jan 30, 2017 3:08:45 GMT
What "gameplay" are you looking for? We've seen a fair bit of combat, and some cinematics. no need to be disingenuous. Oh and mp will be peer 2 peer, and its 2017. I'm not being disingenuous. We've seen enough to know how combat is going to feel, and we now know what all the squad mates look like. So I'll repeat: What are you looking for?
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Post by pdusen on Jan 30, 2017 3:23:59 GMT
Hi, Dutch.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 30, 2017 3:47:16 GMT
Oh, God, this guy is still around? I honestly thought he had moved onto something that made him happy. Guess not. Lol. Is this guy a legitimately a hater or does he just like to make amusing videos? There's something called CinemaSins where the person who makes the videos does an "Everything wrong with [movie]". It's so obviously tongue in cheek that you can't take it seriously. That's how I viewed this video. I love CinemaSins. Jeremy from CinemaSins makes hilarious observations and points out plot holes, but in a unique and playful way. Yes, some are nitpicky, but he does it for humor (for the most part). Smudboy on the other hand is like someone took all the salt and hate from the old Bioware forums and used them in some kind of science mixed with dark arts ritual/experiment and created a vessel for it in human form. He isn't funny, he isn't clever, he doesn't think about what he says. He has a knee-jerk reaction to a trailer and immediately films his first thoughts without putting any additional thought or research into them. I'm all for being critical, and it's not even that I just love Mass Effect. CinemaSins did a video about Wall-E, one of my absolute favorite movies of all time. He pointed out some things, made fun of some things, and it was great. I enjoyed it. Smud just slings trash like some entitled brat (he still thinks Bioware needs to apologize for the ME3 endings). It's just garbage.
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Post by Cannibal on Jan 30, 2017 3:48:23 GMT
When exactly are they suppose to show gameplay videos? Two months in advance? Three? A year?
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Post by linksocarina on Jan 30, 2017 3:53:26 GMT
To be fair you did pick shitty forums to use as examples.
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Post by Madflavor on Jan 30, 2017 3:58:42 GMT
To be fair you did pick shitty forums to use as examples. I also left out /r/Games which has been pretty critical towards the game for awhile. So I mean if all 5 of these are what you consider shitty forums, then if you can point me to forums (besides this and /r/MassEffect) that's had a lot more pleasant reactions towards ME:A, then I'm all ears.
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Post by linksocarina on Jan 30, 2017 4:00:41 GMT
To be fair you did pick shitty forums to use as examples. I also left out /r/Games which has been pretty critical towards the game for awhile. So I mean if all 5 of these are what you consider shitty forums, then if you can point me to forums (besides this and /r/MassEffect) that's had a lot more pleasant reactions towards ME:A, then I'm all ears. It's moreso their attitudes in general, crapping on pretty much everything out there except a few games for a while until they shit on them and find something new to love. A lot of forums are like that now.
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Post by Mihura on Jan 30, 2017 4:05:12 GMT
After Dragon Age: Inquisition early gameplay videos that were far from the final product, I am happy they are showing little because most of them would be inaccurate. If I want to see good gameplay to judge the game I would watch twitch on release day.
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Post by Madflavor on Jan 30, 2017 4:05:35 GMT
I also left out /r/Games which has been pretty critical towards the game for awhile. So I mean if all 5 of these are what you consider shitty forums, then if you can point me to forums (besides this and /r/MassEffect) that's had a lot more pleasant reactions towards ME:A, then I'm all ears. It's moreso their attitudes in general, crapping on pretty much everything out there except a few games for a while until they shit on them and find something new to love. A lot of forums are like that now. It's gross. I'm not gonna say Andromeda isn't deserving of any skepticism or criticism, but there's a lot of negativity towards the game that's so overblown. I think moreso than your typical AAA game.
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Post by Pearl on Jan 30, 2017 4:12:24 GMT
>year of our lord 2017 >responding to dutch threads
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Post by cryptic137 on Jan 30, 2017 4:23:39 GMT
Usually withholding material means that the gamerelease will be delayed. But to be honest, this also can mean nothing. Many publisher released videos too early so that the hype died before the game was released. right now publishers are releasing less and less materials if you take a look at other newer games.
in this case it probably makes sense if there are optics to polish. it would probably hurt the game if the released footage does not represent the quality of the released product.
we will probably see more footage a little closer to release
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Post by derrame on Jan 30, 2017 4:28:12 GMT
there is already gameplay video, and more will come within the next weeks but yes, they should have realeased more videos
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Post by fatherjerusalem on Jan 30, 2017 4:54:45 GMT
TIL people still actually take Dutch threads seriously.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2017 4:55:45 GMT
The funny thing is that those people crapping all over the game are going to buy it, play the shit out of it, and romance "ugly" Cora using "plastic" Scott. Or, they'll play Sara for the lesbian scenes. Yes, I think that little of them. All bluster but still paying the money and still romancing the people they think are horrible.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 30, 2017 5:00:47 GMT
I came specifically for this post.
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