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Post by Darth_Atreyu on Feb 23, 2017 21:39:01 GMT
It's one thing if you think the overall tone is broken by things like this, but "internal logic" is not a valid point when the Mass Effect universe is essentially a representation of the future of our own, and our own is way harsher and more explicit all the time. Mass Effect is fiction, not an accurate retelling of future history I hope you know that.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 23, 2017 21:42:01 GMT
It's one thing if you think the overall tone is broken by things like this, but "internal logic" is not a valid point when the Mass Effect universe is essentially a representation of the future of our own, and our own is way harsher and more explicit all the time. Mass Effect is fiction, not an accurate retelling of future history I hope you know that. I....u said wot mate
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:42:12 GMT
*Spends hours bursting heads like ripe melons with a sniper rifle: No complaints.*
*Sees nudity in a sex scene: Horrified*
What's wrong with that picture?
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 23, 2017 21:45:43 GMT
*Spends hours bursting heads like ripe melons with a sniper rifle: No complaints.*
*Sees nudity in a sex scene: Horrified*What's wrong with that picture? Harry: Why can't we show children a movie where people are nice to each other all the time? Tommy: That's called pornography. Dick: Then that is what they shall watch.
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 23, 2017 21:46:19 GMT
*Spends hours bursting heads like ripe melons with a sniper rifle: No complaints.*
*Sees nudity in a sex scene: Horrified*What's wrong with that picture? That melons could apply to exploding heads and sexy bits, depending on the context. Truly the fruit of sin.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 23, 2017 21:49:08 GMT
What was not good about the story? There are a lot of great moments, from the battle at Kaer Morhen, Geralt vs Imlerith, the entire subplot at Novigrad, the relationships and chemistry between all of the major characters (Geralt, Triss, Yennefer, Ciri, Dandelion, Zoltan, etc.), to just being a Witcher and exploring the world leisurely. I haven't even mentioned both expansions, which provide even more great storytelling and characters. You are the first person I've ever met who actually claims the story in The Witcher 3 is not good. Mass Effect always had nudity, just not full frontal nudity. We had side boob in ME1. BioWare got criticized by Fox News and put underwear on everybody in ME2 and ME3 (besides Liara). BioWare is pushing boundaries again, largely because of CDPR with The Witcher. I don't see what's wrong with showing nudity if it's done in a tasteful and meaningful way. Whether it's "cringeworthy" or "gratuitous" is largely a matter of opinion. I was refering to the overarching story in the Witcher 3, which people seems to not want to talk about, not the characters or sidequests. Yes Mass Effect always had nudity and they were largely done very well, minus the shower stuff. And the Fox News nonsense was just embarrasing they didn't even know what they were talking about. But having more explicit sex and nudity is not breaking any ground but rather a devolving spiral were games sometimes get into when they want to appear more adult, which is to put more sex and gore. There is no real boundary that's being pushed but rather an overdone formula of just adding more sex to everything when creativity falters. Again, what was wrong with the Wild Hunt? It was a recurring theme in all three games (I'm assuming you played The Witcher 1 and The Witcher 2) and was the climax of the entire trilogy. CDPR did a beautiful job of tying the story back to the very beginning of The Witcher 1 and did what I thought was a perfect and satisfying conclusion to everybody's favorite witcher. The "overarching story" was one of the major highlights of the game, so unless you actually provide specifics and don't make sweeping generalizations, I'm going to assume you either never played the game, never finished it, or just don't like the game for entirely subjective reasons. Don't you think you are jumping the gun just a little bit? We have seen the ESRB rating and nothing else. The ESRB doesn't even have the description regarding MEA for what are "strong sexual themes" and "nudity" on their website yet. We can assume there will be breasts and perhaps even full frontal nudity. There have been rumors that BioWare is trying to handle sex scenes in a more mature manner similar to CDPR. Until we actually play, however, this is all purely speculation. I don't see how any of this somehow goes beyond what is appropriate in Mass Effect. There have always been sex scenes, so what does it matter if we see more than in previous games? It seems to me you are trying to force your own personal views and beliefs about nudity on the rest of us because you don't like it. As long as the relationships are well-developed and the romance scenes are done tastefully, it's fair game for BioWare to do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Cyonan on Feb 23, 2017 21:50:45 GMT
It's one thing if you think the overall tone is broken by things like this, but "internal logic" is not a valid point when the Mass Effect universe is essentially a representation of the future of our own, and our own is way harsher and more explicit all the time. Mass Effect is fiction, not an accurate retelling of future history I hope you know that. Well if it is somebody needs to invent a stasis chamber for me to use so I can become a biotic and go actually meet Kasumi. Though what they were actually getting at is it's the dev's vision of what the future might look like, not the actual accurate prediction.
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Post by PermTrouble on Feb 23, 2017 21:53:33 GMT
I generally think love stories are useless filler nonsense, but would appreciate if implemented they go full tilt absurd and have fun with it.
Sex is weird and fun. Portray it as weird and fun imo
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Post by Spooch on Feb 23, 2017 22:08:27 GMT
How does it break "internal logic and workings of the established universe"? Was there some previous released lore that I haven't seen that says there is no nudity in Mass Effect?
Also not completely sure how nudity prevents them from "challenging the audiences intellects". Can you not enjoy nudity and be smart?
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 23, 2017 22:20:17 GMT
How does it break "internal logic and workings of the established universe"? Was there some previous released lore that I haven't seen that says there is no nudity in Mass Effect? Also not completely sure how nudity prevents them from "challenging the audiences intellects". Can you not enjoy nudity and be smart?No. You can't. Nudity makes people think with their bodies and emotions not using their brain and intellect and thus putting themselves in dumb situations. Emotions should be cremated if you want an intelligent conversation.
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Post by hammerstorm on Feb 23, 2017 22:23:03 GMT
How does it break "internal logic and workings of the established universe"? Was there some previous released lore that I haven't seen that says there is no nudity in Mass Effect? Also not completely sure how nudity prevents them from "challenging the audiences intellects". Can you not enjoy nudity and be smart?No. You can't. Nudity makes people think with their bodies and emotions not using their brain and intellect and thus putting themselves in dumb situations. Emotions are dumb and stupid if you want an intelligent conversation. And that is the reason why the world only have stupid people, all the smart one died out. Except me of course.
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Post by General Mahad on Feb 23, 2017 22:25:45 GMT
Zorak is right, give me nudity or give me death. ..... The game is not gonna be like for example the series Versailles which had constant nudity and sex scene that it began to turn off people from the narrative. We are going to be spending the vast majority of the time killin' or chattin' rather than bangin'.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 23, 2017 22:27:05 GMT
No. You can't. Nudity makes people think with their bodies and emotions not using their brain and intellect and thus putting themselves in dumb situations. Emotions are dumb and stupid if you want an intelligent conversation. And that is the reason why the world only have stupid people, all the smart one died out. Except me of course. No. We still out there hiding and waiting till the world degrades itself into extinction.
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Post by nolerhn on Feb 23, 2017 22:27:07 GMT
How does it break "internal logic and workings of the established universe"? Was there some previous released lore that I haven't seen that says there is no nudity in Mass Effect? Also not completely sure how nudity prevents them from "challenging the audiences intellects". Can you not enjoy nudity and be smart?No. You can't. Nudity makes people think with their bodies and emotions not using their brain and intellect and thus putting themselves in dumb situations. Emotions are dumb and stupid if you want an intelligent conversation. Lies! If you've ever had sex in a compact car then you know it takes a little brain power.....where there's a will there's a way
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Post by drewzen on Feb 23, 2017 22:27:58 GMT
I'm a simple man. I just want some naked aliens. Blue, green, purple, organic or synthetic, it don't matter.
If they handle the "sex" scenes in a similar fashion to ME1-3, then that's good.
If they handle it like Witcher 3, that's even better.
I'm down for anything at this point.
The idea that this would detract from anything else in the game is just silly.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 23, 2017 22:30:59 GMT
No. You can't. Nudity makes people think with their bodies and emotions not using their brain and intellect and thus putting themselves in dumb situations. Emotions are dumb and stupid if you want an intelligent conversation. Lies! If you've ever had sex in a compact car then you know it takes a little brain power.....where there's a will there's a way No. The true knowledge and brain power would come from avoiding it in the first place. For should you hit the button to lower the window with an elbow and then hit the button again and end up decapitating yourself. No. Not worth that risk.
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 23, 2017 22:33:28 GMT
How does it break "internal logic and workings of the established universe"? Was there some previous released lore that I haven't seen that says there is no nudity in Mass Effect? Also not completely sure how nudity prevents them from "challenging the audiences intellects". Can you not enjoy nudity and be smart?No. You can't. Nudity makes people think with their bodies and emotions not using their brain and intellect and thus putting themselves in dumb situations. Emotions are dumb and stupid if you want an intelligent conversation. Dumb and stupid, huh? Sounds like a logical assessment to me.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 23, 2017 22:35:46 GMT
No. You can't. Nudity makes people think with their bodies and emotions not using their brain and intellect and thus putting themselves in dumb situations. Emotions are dumb and stupid Emotions should be cremated if you wantan intelligent conversation. Dumb and stupid, huh? Sounds like a logical assessment to me. Ok very well. Bad choice of words. Emotions are the aspect of humanity that should be cremated.
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 23, 2017 22:42:43 GMT
Dumb and stupid, huh? Sounds like a logical assessment to me. Ok very well. Bad choice of words. Emotions are the aspect of humanity that should be cremated.
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Post by SKAR on Feb 23, 2017 22:46:34 GMT
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Post by VanSinn on Feb 23, 2017 22:51:36 GMT
Ok very well. Bad choice of words. Emotions are the aspect of humanity that should be cremated. I would argue that emotions are one of the key aspects to humanity being human. Uncontrolled, unregulated emotion can (and often does) have very negative consequences, but I would hate to see the world that exists without any emotion.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 23, 2017 22:54:19 GMT
Ok very well. Bad choice of words. Emotions are the aspect of humanity that should be cremated. I would argue that emotions are one of the key aspects to humanity being human. Uncontrolled, unregulated emotion can (and often does) have very negative consequences, but I would hate to see the world that exists without any emotion. As would any human.
World without emotion: Hated the ending though. Emotion should have been eradicated.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 23, 2017 22:57:03 GMT
I can legit say I see no reason why nudity would affect the story whatsoever. Its something that is so separate to the ability to tell a story its not even funny. The Matrix Trilogy had nudity, I guess that means the story is crap I guess The Babe Ruth Story had no nudity so it must be an amazing film right
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 23, 2017 23:00:11 GMT
I can legit say I see no reason why nudity would affect the story whatsoever. Its something that is so separate to the ability to tell a story its not even funny. The Matrix Trilogy had nudity, I guess that means the story is crap I guess The Babe Ruth Story had no nudity so it must be an amazing film right Yep. After M1 it was.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Feb 23, 2017 23:04:16 GMT
Oh, quit your nonsense, OP.
Go play Candy Crush.
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