The MEA game ratings thread (ESRB rating description)

What I mean is that there is no official description of what is actually in the game, instead of what you posted.

I like how Jack Howitzer movies are rated 'PG' for 'Patriotic Garbage' in the GTA universe.

You mean like how the brief description of DAI's content was released before the game right? Stuff like Iron Bull's infamous "I will bring myself to sexual pleasure later, while thinking of this with great respect" line.

No, they haven't released anything yet, unfortunately.

I have never been able to figure out when those come out for ESRB. Sometimes it's after the damn games already launched and in public hands. Sometimes it's month or 2 in advance.

I feel like theres some kind of contractual shenanigans going on that makes it all oddball. Or maybe who ever is in charge of the sites just... all over the place.

Yeah, that story is partially true. It didn't take 'mods' to add nudity into the game (well kinda). The nudity existed in the game, the underwear (bra portion) was an actual model. And you could just 'hide' it showing nipples. That's why the rating got changed, because they didn't barbie-doll the skin.

If a mod 'actually' adds nudity that didn't exist in the files, ratings don't get changed. It's a 'It's on the disc, so it counts' kinda thing. Same thing happend with GTA, with the hot coffee whatever BS. Sex mini-game was in the game, people found it with commands/mods, but because it was already apart of the game (just hidden from normal gameplay) it still counts.

It's why porn mods for Skyrim don't turn it into an AO rating. It's also one of the many reasons the whole misconception about ratings going crazy happens due to mods. like people afraid Bethesda allowing nudity via mods on consoles would change the rating? Complete bullshit but it's an unfounded fear that still exists. I think that very reasoning is one of the reasons Bethesda is so opposed to nudity when they used to not be.

As far as rating systems as a whole being stupid? Agreed, but the gaming industry did it on it's own purposefully to keep the government out since that shit hit movies way back when the didn't have a PG-13 rating amongst other things. It's just a safety net from stupidity.

edit: meant mod, not model... no idea why i said model

Red sand is a hell of a drug.

Rated M for Manly

That's what I was saying though, mods don't dictate game rating. It's kinda like how multiplayer is never rated because it can't be. Games content at base can be, human beings can't be.

As I said before though rating systems exists to keep the government out of it. Last thing anyone wants (fans or the corporations) is the government involved with rating content. That and it become an overstep and could be seen as government censorship which is a pretty big freedom here. Just look at Australia who's rating IS government run, shits crazyballs.

Anyways a 'it's doesn't always work so fuck it' is a bad excuse for wanting something gone. Laws against murder doesn't stop it from happening but that shit still needs to exist. Ratings are still useful, even if it can't be upheld to much of anything. Also, the movie industry as a whole is corrupt as fuck. Seriously, there some fucked up absurdly illegal shit that's been going on in hollywood for a looong ass time, it's not that shocking there rating board wouldn't be just as messed up.

Thankfully M rated games still sell the most compared to Teen rated. That's one of the biggest issues in movie, corruption aside, is they aim for what sells best. And if PG-13 sells best, you end up getting Terminator movies that 'should' be R, shitting out cut up to fit into a PG-13 rating.

Most important part of the summary. 

We already knew BioWare had been working on the 'gun-porn' 

I don't remember any mangled genitals?

*reinstalls Oblivion, rubs hands together*

Hmm, I don't really need super explicit sex scenes, but I don't mind 'em either. My only concern is that, if they get too ambitious, the animations might not end up to scratch for what they're going for. It'll probably be good for some of the sex scenes, but I don't have a ton of faith in every sex scene getting lovingly crafted animation, since they're going to be stretching their resources here. And, well, let's be honest: sex scenes are the kinds of scenes that are really easy to fuck up.