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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 27, 2017 17:17:41 GMT
I thought this would be a different take. Rather than the poll that only includes ME1, I thought I'd expand the scope out to the entire trilogy. My answer for ME1 is different than my answers for the entire trilogy.
1) Jacob - I don't like how he treats Tali (comments about making sure she meets the ship's AI), he's kind of dumb ("I'll go in the vents even though I'm in no way qualified!") and he's okay with any outcome for his father, including suicide or having a mob attack and kill him. Any moderately moral human being shouldn't be okay with those options but Jacob doesn't care. Plus, though I never play FemShep, the outcome of his romance in ME3.
2) Zaeed - Don't care for how he'll murder innocents to get what he wants. I tend toward Paragon Shepard's and this behavior isn't okay.
Curious to see how others feel about it.
EDIT: I put an end date on this poll for the day MEA launches. I figure no one will care so much after that point, at least not before this thread would need resurrection to be used.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jan 27, 2017 20:05:43 GMT
I'm just in ME2 so can't answer about all the characters but so far I really don't like Aria. Zaeed is a really horrible person but I can't help taking him almost all the time because his fight banter is pretty funny. I'm so horrible at shooting that I think he's got a personal running dialogue on what I'm doing and once in a while, when I do something right, it's like he's praising me. Plus I go talk to him a lot, on the ship, and I think it's funny what a motor mouth he is, instead being quiet and stoic. (Disclaimer: I don't like the bad things he does)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 20:21:31 GMT
Honestly, I can't answer this... it really depends on what class of Shepard I'm playing and/or what personality I'm trying to give him or her at the time. I like them all and use them all for difference reasons.
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Post by Sighawke on Jan 27, 2017 20:47:10 GMT
Don't really dislike any of the characters, but if I had to choose, it'd definitely be Liara. Her fainting and the whole, "Oh, I'm so socially awkward!" thing in ME1 felt like...I dunno, forced attempts to make her look "cute". Also, I generally don't care for her characters of her archetype. (I generally like snarky characters like Javik/Garrus/Joker, or badasses like Wrex/Grunt/Zaeed.) I did like her slightly better after ME2, but eh, I still wouldn't call her my favorite character.
Mostly, I'm probably just bitter over the fact that my Renegade MaleShep got ninjamanced by Liara in ME1. There's a dialogue bug in ME1 where if you reject her in the Renegade way, the game will resume the romance (you have to reject her in the nicer, "neutral" way to avoid the romance). That MaleShep was a huge asshole towards her, so it was pretty weird. Had to start a new game+ playthrough to beat the Insanity difficulty and get the Ally trophies anyway, but still, it was pretty annoying.
Also, in ME3, if you choose mostly Paragon dialogue options with Liara, the game somehow assumes you're interested in her and act as if you guys are together during the Matriarch Aethyta conversation. Thankfully, the game rightfully assumed my Renegade MaleShep was only friends with Liara (which is still weird given how rude he was towards her in ME1, but I'll take what I can get). My Paragon FemShep who was in a relationship with Garrus, though? Aethyta called her Liara's "girlfriend". I assumed at first that Aethyta was just being snarky, until my Shepard responded to Aethyta that, "nobody messes with my girl [Liara]" (wat).
Point being, Liara's the only character who's been forced on both of my Shepards at some point because of a bug, and it doesn't help that she seems to be the established "canon romance". Blugh. But again, I don't really dislike her. If I knew her in real life, I'd probably like her as a person (assuming she doesn't try coming on to me as strongly as my Shepards lol).
As for the second character? Uh...Morinth, I guess, for obvious reasons. But I mean, I never got to know her deeply enough to really "dislike" her, either.
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Post by techurious on Jan 27, 2017 22:12:40 GMT
The Cerberus Cheerleader and Aria definitely. One is always jealous of imperfect Shepard and Aria is just annoying. Yeah, Carrie-Anne Moss voiced her, it doesn't automatically make her a badass, especially because she doesn't do anything but sit in the damn couch stroking her ego.
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Post by fraggle on Jan 28, 2017 0:55:23 GMT
After thinking about this for the evening, Aria and Zaeed it is. And it's not that I hate them, just I really don't care for them. I love Zaeed's voice, but other than that I can't see anything in him. His LM is great though, I like the different outcomes.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 2:38:00 GMT
I'm just in ME2 so can't answer about all the characters but so far I really don't like Aria. Zaeed is a really horrible person but I can't help taking him almost all the time because his fight banter is pretty funny. I'm so horrible at shooting that I think he's got a personal running dialogue on what I'm doing and once in a while, when I do something right, it's like he's praising me. Plus I go talk to him a lot, on the ship, and I think it's funny what a motor mouth he is, instead being quiet and stoic. (Disclaimer: I don't like the bad things he does) Aria doesn't come into play for you until ME3 and only if you have a particular DLC. I wouldn't base your feelings about her from ME2 on how she is as a squadmate.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jan 28, 2017 4:30:23 GMT
I'm just in ME2 so can't answer about all the characters but so far I really don't like Aria. Zaeed is a really horrible person but I can't help taking him almost all the time because his fight banter is pretty funny. I'm so horrible at shooting that I think he's got a personal running dialogue on what I'm doing and once in a while, when I do something right, it's like he's praising me. Plus I go talk to him a lot, on the ship, and I think it's funny what a motor mouth he is, instead being quiet and stoic. (Disclaimer: I don't like the bad things he does) Aria doesn't come into play for you until ME3 and only if you have a particular DLC. I wouldn't base your feelings about her from ME2 on how she is as a squadmate. Oh, ok...I only know her from talking to her in the club and she wasn't very friendly there.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 4:39:43 GMT
Aria doesn't come into play for you until ME3 and only if you have a particular DLC. I wouldn't base your feelings about her from ME2 on how she is as a squadmate. Oh, ok...I only know her from talking to her in the club and she wasn't very friendly there. She's not friendly at any point but she can be reasonable and, IMO, brings some great things to the table in ME3 even outside of when you can have her as a squadmate.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 4:40:13 GMT
No love for Liara here, I see.
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Post by disgustednoise on Jan 28, 2017 6:17:49 GMT
Unbreakable three way tie between Zaeed, Ashley, and Jacob.
Unlike the other two, I don't find Jacob himself to be that grating, but he's just so poorly done. They just didn't get a single thing right with him besides being hot.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 28, 2017 12:42:15 GMT
No love for Liara here, I see. that's right. excellent.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 16:03:06 GMT
Unbreakable three way tie between Zaeed, Ashley, and Jacob. Unlike the other two, I don't find Jacob himself to be that grating, but he's just so poorly done. They just didn't get a single thing right with him besides being hot. Honestly, I've come to realize he's not that intelligent of a guy. He volunteers for a job in ME2 that is guaranteed to kill him, even though others are far more qualified than he. Then, in ME3, he says he'll "walk it off" in relation to a gunshot wound? And then wants to take on Cerberus troops and restart the AA guns without getting medical attention? Outright stupid when Shepard is standing there with two squadmates. Anyway, you don't have to dislike him. I just like him less and less as I go. That said, in two months I'll probably be too focused on MEA to have much concern for Jacob. As for the tie, I don't see it. I see a tie for third with Zaeed and Jacob with 4 votes but only 1 vote for Ash. Mind you, I don't dislike Ash. She happened to be my least favorite in ME1 but she's not my least favorite in general. I think it would be cool to have her around, just not at the cost of Kaidan.
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Post by dalinne on Jan 28, 2017 16:36:53 GMT
Liara (sorry darling. In ME1 she is not my cup of tea. I loved her DLC in ME2. In ME3 she is OK, like EDI, but I tend not to use her a lot and if you don't romance her, she has barely conversation between missions.)
Jacob (not sorry, I hate you man, you are boring. That's not bad, what it's bad is how my Shepard behaves when she talks to you. But that is not your fault. What is your fault is you accuse her to pushing you too much, and if she pays you with the same coin you whine. People accuse Kaidan to be a whiner when freaking Jacob is the real whiner of ME trilogy. He even whines of not whining if you ask him about his damned feelings. Also, the cuttlebone reference. Screw you, Jacob.)
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Post by opuspace on Jan 29, 2017 8:12:02 GMT
Liara- Still haven't gotten over how creepy it was that she moved her stuff onto the Normandy without permission...and kept going into other people's personal stuff without permission. No, I don't mind having deeply personal conversations with you while I'm in the bathroom...No, of course it's ok to pick a fight with Javik even though I kept him away from you...of course it's acceptable to air Tali's personal information in front of people just to spite her. The few times she actually keeps something confidential, it's to keep from making herself look bad, like telling Ashley/Kaidan (who might be Shepard's lover) that she gave their girlfriend/boyfriend to a terrorist organization. Or when she knew Tali had a crush on Shepard but wanted less competition.
Morinth- I'm sorry, but 300 years as an emo goth wannabe is too long to act that way.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2017 15:44:08 GMT
I had thought about Morinth but I've never actually recruited her. I kind of liked her personality but I'm not stupid enough to think she wouldn't eventually try to seduce me [again], someone in my crew, or an ally. "Astronomical death count" and "save the galaxy" somehow don't seem to go well together.
A little surprised at the number of people who dislike Aria. She's not a nice person, no doubt, but she's helpful to Shepard. She hands him all of her merc gangs to use and eventually supplies you were a lot more resources. Though, I guess she's no better than Zaeed when it comes to sacrificing innocents. But, unlike Zaeed, she doesn't hate you for it.
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Post by gancu on Jan 29, 2017 21:25:29 GMT
Yep. I like Aria and Ashley because they are independent and helping Shepard without going into his ass like Tali or Liara for example. While Aria is some kind of crime lord, Ashley is veteran soldier at first place. Well developed characters like for me.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Jan 29, 2017 22:29:49 GMT
Wut, no Jenkins or Wilson? For serious: Ashley -- as I said in the other thread, don't hate her just very indifferent. Morinth -- no, thanks.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2017 1:59:44 GMT
Wut, no Jenkins or Wilson? For serious: Ashley -- as I said in the other thread, don't hate her just very indifferent. Morinth -- no thanks. Forgot Jenkins and Wilson! They both get the same ending, though.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 30, 2017 3:31:03 GMT
James - God is he annoying. Starts off doing nothing but arguing and questioning Shepard's orders. Add that to the weird jersey shore thing he has going on and I try to just stay away from him. I feel like he could, at any point, just pop out and scream "do you even lift brah?" *shudder*
I like everyone else, to some degree. I suppose the ones in the running for the other spot are Jacob/Miranda/Kaidan?
I voted Kaidan for more of a joke reason:
Kaidan - People have to kill off Ashley to save him. And that's all I got. lol
He didn't really bother me aside from me thinking, "why aren't you Carth??" every time I heard him speak. He was just... sorta quiet and bland. Granted, he never made it off Virmire for me. (=/) Maybe he got cooler in ME3?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2017 6:29:09 GMT
He didn't really bother me aside from me thinking, "why aren't you Carth??" every time I heard him speak. I think maybe it's a good thing I didn't discover Mass Effect until 2016. I was so far removed from any KOTOR games that it didn't immediately sink I how I knew the voice. And by then I was pretty indifferent to any character from KOTOR. I seem to recall liking Carth, though.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 30, 2017 13:17:51 GMT
He didn't really bother me aside from me thinking, "why aren't you Carth??" every time I heard him speak. I think maybe it's a good thing I didn't discover Mass Effect until 2016. I was so far removed from any KOTOR games that it didn't immediately sink I how I knew the voice. And by then I was pretty indifferent to any character from KOTOR. I seem to recall liking Carth, though. Damn. Got in late on the hype train eh? 0.0 Carth was ok. It's just that I was so used to that voice coming from Carth and I was like... that doesn't match your face Kaidan! lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 14:02:42 GMT
Miranda and... well, yeah, Miranda. The only DLC companion I have is Zaeed, but it's unfair to vote chars I have not met. I put Wrex down, but really, I dunno, I don't mind him. Miranda though... ouch. Grated on my nerves even after death with her sister, sister, sister....
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Post by Toledo wombat on Jan 30, 2017 23:11:02 GMT
Ok, i haven't met Zaeed or Nyreen and I've never played with Aria or Morinth so they're off.
So, i'm sorry geth fans, it's Legion. It's not that I don't like him, I just never connect to him in the way some people do. It's sad when he dies, but by this stage i've been through two sad deaths of people i care alot more for. I'm less convinced than Tali is that he, as an individual or a unit has a soul.(I'm not sure what Shep's opinion on this matter is, in one case Shep was still grappling with the idea that HE had a soul, let alone Legion). Don't get me wrong, I don't wipe the geth out without a second thought on Rannoch and with a heavy heart I sacrifice them for the greater good on the Destroy ending, but Legion is my least favourite squad mate. Maybe i'm traumatised by both his recruitment and loyalty mission.
I'm regreting voting Thane as my second choice because although he's low on my list, his death is terribly moving. I really enjoyed the chats he and Shep had on the Normandy, but i've never found him super useful or witty on missions, and I don't find him sexy. I've dragged him around on the suicide mission occasionally, but that's about it. I like you Thane, but i never use you! EDI's 3rd on the same basis, she's nice enough to chat to and I enjoy her jokes and what have you but I wish i could have taken somebody else along to the Cerberus base. She should have stayed with Joker on the Normandy, somebody else could have worked the computers, i'm sure.
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