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Post by byne on Feb 25, 2017 22:16:32 GMT
Just got tweeted. Dropping it here since on topic: Adam Fondark@fondragon @tibermoon Will you guys announce romances before launch? I really dont wanna chase someone just to realize at the end that I couldnt Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @fondragon Not planning on it, no. We want players to discover on their own. You won't have to spend 60 hours flirting to find out that > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@fondragon a given character is or isn't an option for you, though. The level of them not getting it is, well, astronomical at this point. Only reason I can see that they'd be so evasive is if theres both controversial stuff about the romances (like no m/m ones) AND theres far fewer than they've claimed. No other reason they wouldnt be loudly telling us all the romances to build up hype, since they know thats the kind of shit the fanbase likes.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 22:17:05 GMT
Well animu is the motherland of waifu wars so why were u even surpsied? Zutara for life tbh inb4 'but thats not an anime!'WRONG! Zuko and that guy he interacted with for like two episodes before the guy died half kidding / half serious
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Feb 25, 2017 22:18:12 GMT
I think I'm going to join the "disappointed in advance" ranks. Kind of. Gone through all stages and now I'm at acceptance. If they do pull the "no male alien for male players" line and explain that because "it fits his character", then I'm not that wrong in my conclusions. Yep, Scott and Sara are both strange-looking aliens from another galaxy. Also, Sara has bewbs, which aren't even noticeable in some armor. Ofc only Sara, go away, Scott, you don't have da bewbs. I'm fairly sure that while their marketing strat can be controlled by EA, nobody was pointing guns at them telling "no gay aliens". For years I was trying to whiteknight Bioware among my friends and on some forums, but our situation nowadays seems really sad. Not trusting them again.So, how much time do you think will our m/m romance with Gil will last? 4 cutscenes main-game and 2 more in DLC, like it was with Cortez? Hey there, welcome to the club! We have cookies, and ice cream, and board games and stuff. Maybe.I've been disappointed in advance when it comes to romance options since waiting for DA:I and hearing the options. And I'm glad they did that, because being disappointed a few months before the game comes out is much better than only finding out you aren't interested in anyone ( or they aren't interested in you) during the game itself, which also leads to less enjoyment of its other aspects since that feeling bleeds over. Basically, it's better to get over something during development than to unintentionally hype yourself because you just can't help it and end up even more disappointed, and that applies to any aspect of the game to me, which is why I like them to answer our questions even if the answer is "no". So I'm not expecting to romance anyone in ME:A. Still, my brain is dumb and keeps saying "Oh, maybe that NPC". Stop it, brain
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 25, 2017 22:18:45 GMT
How I feel about the MEA marketing; Everytime there's something new, GREAT, WHAT A VICTORY, WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!! But after a moment, it sinks in. Doubt. Uncertainty. Will I be happy? Will others be happy? Do these characters have a chance at surpassing, or even matching the others? Am I too nostalgic for it to be fair? What are they hiding? Why can't the devs be honest? Does this "wait and see" approach work? Was this our fault for the ME3 backlash? When will love be equal? Will efforts even ever be enough for some people? I find my hype... dying. Between the shitshow of marketing, sadistic or ominous devs, vitriolic fans, and uncertainty regarding how this game, three weeks before launch after five years, will even go for me... I just... IDK. Maybe I need a Snickers bar, or something. Snickers is freaking delicious, I think we should all get some! In b4 someone walks in and says '' I hate snickers '' well good for you then.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 22:20:38 GMT
How I feel about the MEA marketing; Everytime there's something new, GREAT, WHAT A VICTORY, WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!! But after a moment, it sinks in. Doubt. Uncertainty. Will I be happy? Will others be happy? Do these characters have a chance at surpassing, or even matching the others? Am I too nostalgic for it to be fair? What are they hiding? Why can't the devs be honest? Does this "wait and see" approach work? Was this our fault for the ME3 backlash? When will love be equal? Will efforts even ever be enough for some people? I find my hype... dying. Between the shitshow of marketing, sadistic or ominous devs, vitriolic fans, and uncertainty regarding how this game, three weeks before launch after five years, will even go for me... I just... IDK. Maybe I need a Snickers bar, or something. Snickers is freaking delicious, I think we should all get some! In b4 someone walks in and says '' I hate snickers '' well good for you then. I don't hate snickers, but let's be honest, that peanut butter snickers is WAAAAAY better!
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 25, 2017 22:22:35 GMT
Snickers is freaking delicious, I think we should all get some! In b4 someone walks in and says '' I hate snickers '' well good for you then. I don't hate snickers, but let's be honest, that peanut butter snickers is WAAAAAY better! I've never had any.... but right now I think that's just what I need in my life. CUUURSSEEE YOUUUU!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 22:24:12 GMT
This thread has been mostly positive today as far as I've seen. I feel like we've come out of the dark cloud of the Thursday embargo, and are hustling along till something else comes along. Until next Thursday Yes at that point we may need to:
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Post by megs80 on Feb 25, 2017 22:24:47 GMT
Depends which "progressives" your talking too And how your talk to them I expect. I don't talk to them, It's what I observed. Do you want to? It's hard to understand a different viewpoint without opening a dialogue. Perhaps you have more in common than you realise. There's always someone willing to debate if you approach them the right way.
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Post by Crim on Feb 25, 2017 22:29:35 GMT
Just got tweeted. Dropping it here since on topic: Adam Fondark@fondragon @tibermoon Will you guys announce romances before launch? I really dont wanna chase someone just to realize at the end that I couldnt Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @fondragon Not planning on it, no. We want players to discover on their own. You won't have to spend 60 hours flirting to find out that > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@fondragon a given character is or isn't an option for you, though. The level of them not getting it is, well, astronomical at this point. But... isn't this more fun?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 22:30:08 GMT
Just got tweeted. Dropping it here since on topic: Adam Fondark@fondragon @tibermoon Will you guys announce romances before launch? I really dont wanna chase someone just to realize at the end that I couldnt Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @fondragon Not planning on it, no. We want players to discover on their own. You won't have to spend 60 hours flirting to find out that > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@fondragon a given character is or isn't an option for you, though. Marko@ultimatgodgohan @tibermoon @fondragon or just buy prima eguide and finde out all about romances Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@ultimatgodgohan @fondragon Ha! Yes, that would also work.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 25, 2017 22:30:43 GMT
I don't talk to them, It's what I observed. Do you want to? It's hard to understand a different viewpoint without opening a dialogue. Perhaps you have more in common than you realise. There's always someone willing to debate if you approach them the right way. I do, but the problem is those types I'm talking aren't willing. They rather spew out their biased and hateful vitriol and block anyone who disagrees with them.
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Post by byne on Feb 25, 2017 22:32:34 GMT
The level of them not getting it is, well, astronomical at this point. But... isn't this more fun? Remember when they thought 'lots of speculation from everyone!' was fun?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 22:32:46 GMT
Erin Kane@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace @tibermoon As a lesbian and a diehard ME fan I really agree. This is upsetting.
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace Apologies, but I don't understand why. With a single exception, we haven't confirmed what options are >
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace available for ANY player, regardless of orientation. We want everyone to discover the romances naturally, >
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace but we're not trying to keep the LGBT community any more in the dark than anyone else. Apologies if it >
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace seems that way.
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Post by amoebae † on Feb 25, 2017 22:33:49 GMT
(I hate Snickers) Here, cookies for everyone
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Post by Suaimhneas on Feb 25, 2017 22:35:19 GMT
(I hate Snickers) Here, cookies for everyone Eating hearts!?!?!? Barbaric.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 22:36:26 GMT
The level of them not getting it is, well, astronomical at this point. But... isn't this more fun? Masochist! *poke* *pokepokepoke*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 22:37:22 GMT
After taking some more to think about NPC vs squad member romances, I've decided that I'm okay (not happy, but okay) without having an m/m squad romance if, and only if, at least one m/m NPC romance option has Joker levels of presence throughout the game.
I could be misremembering, but I feel like Joker had a lot of content. He had some great dialogue scenes on the Normandy, and he was often in Shepard's ear when the player went on missions.
If Andromeda can give me an m/m NPC romance option who, in addition to whatever conversations we have at his specific hub, has some kind of continued interaction with Ryder while the player is in the field, I'll consider it a win.
Unfortunately, based on what we know about the game so far, the only character I can currently see fitting that profile would be SAM, and as interesting as that romance might be to write, I just don't see it happening. That is a great point, and I truly felt like the strongest relationship my Shep had with anyone in the whole game was the one he had with Joker. Joker was always there for him, through thick and thin. And you're right in that you could still interact with Joker via comm; imagine if he'd been a LI and you could have some LI-related banter with him, so I could see how it would work in MEA. That said, again, you're right; none of these proposed NPCs seem to fit the bill. It's too bad Kallo probably isn't one; he would work perfectly. As for Gil, I forget what he even does on the... Tempest, is it? And Suvi is... an engineer? I forget. Because that's how much coverage these two have had. As for Reyes (if we're even still talking about him, whoever/whatever the heck he is), he DOES communicate via comm; if that murder mystery turns out to be a main quest line... maybe we have constant communication with him throughout. Maybe he even joins us on several non-combat related operations. He could be a police officer or something. Actually just saw a video from game informer (I think), confirming that you can flirt with Kallo ~ not a romance confirmation, but it does suggest a maybe :-)
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 22:37:58 GMT
Erin Kane@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace @tibermoon As a lesbian and a diehard ME fan I really agree. This is upsetting. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace Apologies, but I don't understand why. With a single exception, we haven't confirmed what options are > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace available for ANY player, regardless of orientation. We want everyone to discover the romances naturally, > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace but we're not trying to keep the LGBT community any more in the dark than anyone else. Apologies if it > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace seems that way. Hmm, he sounds annoyed. GOOD!!!!!
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Post by Artemis on Feb 25, 2017 22:38:46 GMT
That is a great point, and I truly felt like the strongest relationship my Shep had with anyone in the whole game was the one he had with Joker. Joker was always there for him, through thick and thin. And you're right in that you could still interact with Joker via comm; imagine if he'd been a LI and you could have some LI-related banter with him, so I could see how it would work in MEA. That said, again, you're right; none of these proposed NPCs seem to fit the bill. It's too bad Kallo probably isn't one; he would work perfectly. As for Gil, I forget what he even does on the... Tempest, is it? And Suvi is... an engineer? I forget. Because that's how much coverage these two have had. As for Reyes (if we're even still talking about him, whoever/whatever the heck he is), he DOES communicate via comm; if that murder mystery turns out to be a main quest line... maybe we have constant communication with him throughout. Maybe he even joins us on several non-combat related operations. He could be a police officer or something. Actually just saw a video from game informer (I think), confirming that you can flirt with Kallo ~ not a romance confirmation, but it does suggest a maybe :-) *hyperventilates* My wittle salarian boyfriend I'M COMING FOR YOU SWEETCHEEKS!!!!
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 25, 2017 22:40:42 GMT
But... isn't this more fun? Masochist! *poke* *pokepokepoke*
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Post by not so salty shark on Feb 25, 2017 22:41:14 GMT
The advancing pessimist in me is saying that the unknown M/M "romance" will be in the form of a big alien bartender at some seedy space tavern buried deep within the recesses of an equally seedy town, who'll rail you in the back room for fun because you have a willing hole and then tell you to get the hell out.
...ok, that would be pretty hot, actually.
But seriously, I'm really hoping for at least one M/M romance that's lengthy and meaningful. I'm still boycotting if there are no M/M options in the squad (aka the main cast), but for the sake of those who want a gay male romance and are still going to play...it's all riding on you, Gil.
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Post by Suaimhneas on Feb 25, 2017 22:42:21 GMT
The advancing pessimist in me is saying that the unknown M/M "romance" will be in the form of a big alien bartender at some seedy space tavern buried deep within the recesses of an equally seedy town, who'll rail you in the back room for fun because you have a willing hole and then tell you to get the hell out. ...ok, that would be pretty hot, actually.A new meaning to us getting shafted then.
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 25, 2017 22:42:31 GMT
Just got tweeted. Dropping it here since on topic: Adam Fondark@fondragon @tibermoon Will you guys announce romances before launch? I really dont wanna chase someone just to realize at the end that I couldnt Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @fondragon Not planning on it, no. We want players to discover on their own. You won't have to spend 60 hours flirting to find out that > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@fondragon a given character is or isn't an option for you, though. Marko@ultimatgodgohan @tibermoon @fondragon or just buy prima eguide and finde out all about romances Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@ultimatgodgohan @fondragon Ha! Yes, that would also work. Has anyone pointed out the last Prima Guide got it wrong?
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Post by byne on Feb 25, 2017 22:42:51 GMT
it's all riding on you, Gil. Are we not doing phrasing anymore?
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 25, 2017 22:43:07 GMT
Erin Kane@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace @tibermoon As a lesbian and a diehard ME fan I really agree. This is upsetting. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace Apologies, but I don't understand why. With a single exception, we haven't confirmed what options are > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace available for ANY player, regardless of orientation. We want everyone to discover the romances naturally, > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace but we're not trying to keep the LGBT community any more in the dark than anyone else. Apologies if it > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace seems that way. Finally I get to use this gif! I mean I feel for the devs I honestly do, but this wouldn't be a problem if they didn't make it a problem.
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