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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 22:43:30 GMT
Oh my! That is quite the scenario you imagined there insaneshark!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 25, 2017 22:43:41 GMT
The advancing pessimist in me is saying that the unknown M/M "romance" will be in the form of a big alien bartender at some seedy space tavern buried deep within the recesses of an equally seedy town, who'll rail you in the back room for fun because you have a willing hole and then tell you to get the hell out. ...ok, that would be pretty hot, actually.But seriously, I'm really hoping for at least one M/M romance that's lengthy and meaningful. I'm still boycotting if there are no M/M options in the squad (aka the main cast), but for the sake of those who want a gay male romance and are still going to play...it's all riding on you, Gil. Dex?
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Post by lurkinganon on Feb 25, 2017 22:45:12 GMT
Erin Kane@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace @tibermoon As a lesbian and a diehard ME fan I really agree. This is upsetting. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace Apologies, but I don't understand why. With a single exception, we haven't confirmed what options are > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace available for ANY player, regardless of orientation. We want everyone to discover the romances naturally, > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace but we're not trying to keep the LGBT community any more in the dark than anyone else. Apologies if it > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace seems that way. You know it's funny, I want these weeks to pass so that we finally know and can stop asking about who is or isn't interested in your Ryder of choice just as much as he probably does.
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Post by Suaimhneas on Feb 25, 2017 22:45:53 GMT
I'm not necessarily objecting to this alien backwater fantasy... however why can't we be the one doing the railing?
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 25, 2017 22:49:45 GMT
I'm not necessarily objecting to this alien backwater fantasy... however why can't we be the one doing the railing? Why not both? We both have holes and poles we can come up with lots of fun things to do with them!
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Post by megs80 on Feb 25, 2017 22:49:59 GMT
Until next Thursday Yes at that point we may need to: May be sleep deprived but what's happening next thurs?
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Post by lurkinganon on Feb 25, 2017 22:50:19 GMT
The advancing pessimist in me is saying that the unknown M/M "romance" will be in the form of a big alien bartender at some seedy space tavern buried deep within the recesses of an equally seedy town, who'll rail you in the back room for fun because you have a willing hole and then tell you to get the hell out. ...ok, that would be pretty hot, actually.Reminds me of Alin from Blackgate but without the get the hell out.
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Post by Dirk on Feb 25, 2017 22:52:18 GMT
Erin Kane@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace @tibermoon As a lesbian and a diehard ME fan I really agree. This is upsetting. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace Apologies, but I don't understand why. With a single exception, we haven't confirmed what options are > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace available for ANY player, regardless of orientation. We want everyone to discover the romances naturally, > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace but we're not trying to keep the LGBT community any more in the dark than anyone else. Apologies if it > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace seems that way. It does seem that way, but I accept his apology.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 22:52:35 GMT
Erin Kane@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace @tibermoon As a lesbian and a diehard ME fan I really agree. This is upsetting. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace Apologies, but I don't understand why. With a single exception, we haven't confirmed what options are > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace available for ANY player, regardless of orientation. We want everyone to discover the romances naturally, > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace but we're not trying to keep the LGBT community any more in the dark than anyone else. Apologies if it > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace seems that way. I really hope that Erin Kane replied with her explanation. It's absolutely unbelievable to me that Ian can not understand why a group of fans who got royally screwed in the past (lesbians actually being one of the groups that DIDN'T get screwed) are nervous and just want confirmation. I can understand wanting to do the coy "Wait and see" thing. But when your fan base asks you every single day about something and have indicated that it's something that they are nervous about, why not just give them what they want? It's really tone-deaf and I don't see why he doesn't just address it. Especially since he seems to be getting annoyed. Just say, "I hear you, fans! Here's Gil! He's interesting getting to know Scott better!" or something like that. It's simple and it would go a long way. Sure there would still be some people who aren't happy with that, but it would just get a lot of the negative feelings out and maybe shift critical mass in the right direction.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 22:52:41 GMT
Yes at that point we may need to: May be sleep deprived but what's happening next thurs? Probably nothing, but in general we just mean the next big thing that happens... could be anything. Like if the dev's put out another video but with Scott making out with Peebee. (for example and still no other romance info for other orientations) Yeah...that would go well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 22:55:16 GMT
Erin Kane@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace @tibermoon As a lesbian and a diehard ME fan I really agree. This is upsetting. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace Apologies, but I don't understand why. With a single exception, we haven't confirmed what options are > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace available for ANY player, regardless of orientation. We want everyone to discover the romances naturally, > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace but we're not trying to keep the LGBT community any more in the dark than anyone else. Apologies if it > Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon @aloudernoise @lesbianlovelace seems that way. I really hope that Erin Kane replied with her explanation. It's absolutely unbelievable to me that Ian can not understand why a group of fans who got royally screwed in the past (lesbians actually being one of the groups that DIDN'T get screwed) are nervous and just want confirmation. I can understand wanting to do the coy "Wait and see" thing. But when your fan base asks you every single day about something and have indicated that it's something that they are nervous about, why not just give them what they want? It's really tone-deaf and I don't see why he doesn't just address it. Especially since he seems to be getting annoyed. Just say, "I hear you, fans! Here's Gil! He's interesting getting to know Scott better!" or something like that. It's simple and it would go a long way. Sure there would still be some people who aren't happy with that, but it would just get a lot of the negative feelings out and maybe shift critical mass in the right direction. If it was with a bio and picture of Gil that would go a long way to at least making the lot of us feel less ignored. (hell I'd just settle for the picture probably...but we know nothing about Gil)
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 25, 2017 23:00:41 GMT
Between the MEA marketing and the SWTOR team, I genuinely question of Bioware knows how to listen, and respond, to fans.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 25, 2017 23:01:01 GMT
They could just stop responding to people asking about romances lol.
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Post by Steelcan on Feb 25, 2017 23:01:35 GMT
Guys are we seriously not doing phrasing anymore?
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 25, 2017 23:03:37 GMT
Guys, Ian answered me!
Again the husssshhhhh but you know... better than nothing
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Post by megs80 on Feb 25, 2017 23:04:25 GMT
Do you want to? It's hard to understand a different viewpoint without opening a dialogue. Perhaps you have more in common than you realise. There's always someone willing to debate if you approach them the right way. I do, but the problem is those types I'm talking aren't willing. They rather spew out their biased and hateful vitriol and block anyone who disagrees with them. Well I'm one have at it. Ask what you like I may even answer . But seriously open to debate in forum or via pm will answer if/when I see a request.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 23:08:19 GMT
They could just stop responding to people asking about romances lol. But they won't. They'll say "Sorry, we aren't talking about romances" to the next person who asks them about m/m content. Then they'll turn around and do some fucking stupid "all the banging" comment with a Jimmy Fallon gif about Vetra or something. Tone. Deaf. Guys, Ian answered me! Again the husssshhhhh but you know... better than nothing Well at least he understands a little bit. That particular question probably won't help us, though, because I'm feeling pretty sure the answer is "no", so he won't comment on it anyway. But it's something.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 25, 2017 23:09:38 GMT
They could just stop responding to people asking about romances lol. Amazed they don't. How many ways can you say we aren't discussing romance details.
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Post by ash on Feb 25, 2017 23:10:30 GMT
Between the MEA marketing and the SWTOR team, I genuinely question of Bioware knows how to listen, and respond, to fans. SWTOR team? You mean that SWTOR team, that thought that command rank idea was good and still states that it is? I'm picking MEA marketing. At least they try to conceal their "go do something with yourself, not happening" and try to do some sugarcoating with their doubtful tweets, not straight up lying.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 25, 2017 23:13:17 GMT
Well at least he understands a little bit. That particular question probably won't help us, though, because I'm feeling pretty sure the answer is "no", so he won't comment on it anyway. But it's something. Exactly, I feel a little bit better now he saw my tweet regardless, if there aren't a single squadmate for us, maybe in the next game they will do their homeworks, after ME3 I thought that was a learnt lesson
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Post by Suaimhneas on Feb 25, 2017 23:14:02 GMT
Between the MEA marketing and the SWTOR team, I genuinely question of Bioware knows how to listen, and respond, to fans. I'm picking MEA marketing. At least they try to conceal their "go do something with yourself, not happening" and try to do some sugarcoating with their doubtful tweets, not lie in our face. I'd rather they just be blunt honestly and let people work out their disappointment before launch, rather than it polluting their experience with the game.
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Post by byne on Feb 25, 2017 23:14:55 GMT
I'm picking MEA marketing. At least they try to conceal their "go do something with yourself, not happening" and try to do some sugarcoating with their doubtful tweets, not lie in our face. I'd rather they just be blunt honestly and let people work out their disappointment before launch, rather than it polluting their experience with the game. But dont you prefer experiencing crushing disappointment in real time instead of being able to brace for it?!
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 25, 2017 23:17:30 GMT
The level of them not getting it is, well, astronomical at this point. Only reason I can see that they'd be so evasive is if theres both controversial stuff about the romances (like no m/m ones) AND theres far fewer than they've claimed. No other reason they wouldnt be loudly telling us all the romances to build up hype, since they know thats the kind of shit the fanbase likes. Or it's just like how they been very guarded with the story and honestly actually want people to discover during the game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 23:17:47 GMT
We've gone from DA:I where David and Jessica went to gaymer conventions saying "you get a romance, you get a romance" to...whatever this is. This doesn't feel nearly as good.
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Post by Suaimhneas on Feb 25, 2017 23:18:00 GMT
I'd rather they just be blunt honestly and let people work out their disappointment before launch, rather than it polluting their experience with the game. But dont you prefer experiencing crushing disappointment in real time instead of being able to brace for it?! This is looking a tad like my first play through
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