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Post by thesupremedarkone on Feb 27, 2017 16:07:37 GMT
Gonna chip in on on that too. Bethesda is trully the worst writer of modern AAA RPG studios, hands down. The romances in FO4 were lifted straight out of cheapass soap operas and felt "video-gamey" to the bone. The ideal still remains Obsidian writing actual romances which of course would be the best ever in the industry I think Obsidian would of done well if they had put romance in Fallout New Vegas. Boone you could be his new wife, Cass could be bi, Veronica lesbian, Ganon gay, etc. Obsidian never gets enough time to make a game how they want. Seems someone forgot how Obsidian hates writing romances
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 27, 2017 16:25:12 GMT
Seems someone forgot how Obsidian hates writing romances Do they really or they don't do it because part of their fanbase thinks all romantic content in RPGs is for whimps?
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 27, 2017 16:30:24 GMT
Pillars of Eternity 2 will have romances, but they're passing it off as some kind of advanced relationship system to slip it under the radar of RPG Codexer types. Apparently it's working.
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Post by cespar on Feb 27, 2017 16:30:58 GMT
I think Obsidian would of done well if they had put romance in Fallout New Vegas. Boone you could be his new wife, Cass could be bi, Veronica lesbian, Ganon gay, etc. Obsidian never gets enough time to make a game how they want. Seems someone forgot how Obsidian hates writing romances They may be writing romance for Pillars of Eternity: Deadfire. But the fans really don't care for it.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 27, 2017 16:35:02 GMT
Seems someone forgot how Obsidian hates writing romances They may be writing romance for Pillars of Eternity: Deadfire. But the fans really don't care for it. All I saw was positivity and a rapid boost in pledges?
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Post by cespar on Feb 27, 2017 16:39:43 GMT
They may be writing romance for Pillars of Eternity: Deadfire. But the fans really don't care for it. All I saw was positivity and a rapid boost in pledges? Maybe on the website, but the romance's thread on the forum is having a different reaction to it.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 27, 2017 16:44:12 GMT
All I saw was positivity and a rapid boost in pledges? Maybe on the website, but the romance's thread on the forum is having a different reaction to it. But doesn't the supposed holy grail of RPG's, most holy Baldurs Gate 2, have romances? Back when Pillars was in production I recall almost every update on the forums being met with 'this isn't like Baldurs Gate 2 though!' or some variation thereof.
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Post by cespar on Feb 27, 2017 16:51:28 GMT
Maybe on the website, but the romance's thread on the forum is having a different reaction to it. But doesn't the supposed holy grail of RPG's, most holy Baldurs Gate 2, have romances? Back when Pillars was in production I recall almost every update on the forums being met with 'this isn't like Baldurs Gate 2 though!' or some variation thereof. I don't really get the fanbase there yet, but I've seen comments compare the game to Baldurs Gate. I never played the game, but it does seem to be popular with the devs and fans. I loved the first Pillars without romance, but I would like to see how Obsidian tackles it.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 27, 2017 17:01:37 GMT
I just want bi Jaal. The rest I'm not too fussed about although Vetra being available for sisRyder will be a bonus. I've already got my heart set on Jaal for my broRyder, although I really sHOULDN'T... Ok, *deep breath* I still have a strong feeling that Jaal is romanceable by both Sara and Scott. This doesn't mean he is bi necessarily, as while we as humans may interpret his romantic interest regardless of gender as bisexuality or pansexuality, it may have an entirely different meaning or perception to the angara and Jaal. But to make things simply, yes, I think Jaal will be bi, available for both Sara and Scott. As far as I am concerned, there has really been nothing to say otherwise. Literally. Nothing has been said that literally nips it in the bud. Peebee is obviously available for both Ryder siblings, by mere virtue of her being asari. This should not mean that Vetra and Jaal can't be available for both as well. We know Sara can flirt with Jaal. And recently someone who played the game during the 3 Hour Press Presentation revealed that Jaal is curious about sex with a human. @beautesombre can back me up on that, as we discussed it over in the Jaal thread. I'll say this. I will eat my hat if Jaal isn't bi. I'll also delete my account here (again lol) probably to avoid the backlash of "I told you sos, you got my hopes up for nothing!". But that's my feeling on it. Everything about Jaal suggests to me he was created to be both romanceable (and certainly attractive to) both women and men, Sara and Scott. Plus, anyone that denies the obvious sexual tension in the trailer when Scott and Jaal first meet and lock eyes on one another, is a fool I tell you. Also? I'd love it if there is a lesbian romance in Mass Effect Andromeda that is happy and beautiful, like San Junipero 68.media.tumblr.com/06ea16165fe3c3601995675ed4b38344/tumblr_ofimm9sGet1vgx53mo1_500.gifJust don't delete your account again, we don't want to lose our Prince again T___T History has shown time and again that progress is made through making noise and fighting for your cause, not sitting on your laurels hoping for a scrap to come your way every once in a while. fighting? Is tweeting the devs begging for a scrap of information about which collections of pixels and and 1's and 0's you can have digital relationships now the same as actual campaigning for equal rights? I was at Mac Walters' home drinking tea with pastries the other day, we talked in a very philosophical way of how Pyjaks resemble earth monkeys and how Shep likes knuckle cracking too much in ME2, but I forgot to ask about some concerns that LGBTQ community have about MEA.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 27, 2017 17:04:10 GMT
All I saw was positivity and a rapid boost in pledges? Maybe on the website, but the romance's thread on the forum is having a different reaction to it. I think that says more about the type of people who frequent Obsidians forums than anything. I tend to avoid their forums because they seem to be home to a more hardcore and elitist crowd than, say, the BSN. I really enjoyed the first pillars of eternity, and the lack of romances didn't affect my enjoyment of the game at all, but I still think the new relationship system will add a lot to the second game and am looking forward to it.
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Post by Steelcan on Feb 27, 2017 17:12:31 GMT
well its only reasonable in a world of bell curves to expect there to be an opposite to BSN's, or rather BioWare's fanbase, rabid and maniacal fixation on romances
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 27, 2017 17:12:48 GMT
Maybe on the website, but the romance's thread on the forum is having a different reaction to it. I think that says more about the type of people who frequent Obsidians forums than anything. I tend to avoid their forums because they seem to be home to a more hardcore and elitist crowd than, say, the BSN. I really enjoyed the first pillars of eternity, and the lack of romances didn't affect my enjoyment of the game at all, but I still think the new relationship system will add a lot to the second game and am looking forward to it. I almost got the impression on there/on the codex during POE1 when romances came up that the people against it were largely just trying to project some sort of image. And those in favour felt the need to justify themselves with essays on why romance in games can be a good thing. Just let me suck Eder's dick and have him take me on a romantic picnic, because I'd fuckin' enjoy that. Which is the purpose of video games.
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Post by naychan on Feb 27, 2017 17:15:07 GMT
I'm so sad. I want Jaal for broRyder. I cant sleep. Everynight think about it "Why Bioware! Why!?" *sobs*
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Post by saberchic on Feb 27, 2017 17:16:26 GMT
I'm so sad. I want Jaal for broRyder. I cant sleep. Everynight think about it "Why Bioware! Why!?" *sobs*Why are you upset? Nothing's been confirmed yet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 17:18:10 GMT
I'm so sad. I want Jaal for broRyder. I cant sleep. Everynight think about it "Why Bioware! Why!?" *sobs*Why are you upset? Nothing's been confirmed yet. Yeah am I missing something?
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Post by thesupremedarkone on Feb 27, 2017 17:18:55 GMT
It would be hilarious if Jaal as bi and this all this panic wound up being for nothing
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Feb 27, 2017 17:19:27 GMT
Why are you upset? Nothing's been confirmed yet. Yeah am I missing something? Personally, this whole thing has given me so much anxiety. I even have dreams about confirmations and being let down. It is awful. =/
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Feb 27, 2017 17:20:21 GMT
I'm so sad. I want Jaal for broRyder. I cant sleep. Everynight think about it "Why Bioware! Why!?" *sobs*Bioware obviously hates you personally, naychan. I suggest you blast them with angry tweets in just retribution.
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Post by saberchic on Feb 27, 2017 17:21:04 GMT
It would be hilarious if Jaal as bi and this all this panic wound up being for nothing I wouldn't say hilarious, but I would hope that people learn after this to take these "facts" as rumor instead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 17:21:06 GMT
Yeah am I missing something? Personally, this whole thing has given me so much anxiety. I even have dreams about confirmations and being let down. It is awful. =/ I wish I could give a proper answer but I am getting 3 different stories. And each one could have changed. Nothing is official at all!
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Post by zeowik on Feb 27, 2017 17:21:09 GMT
Not sure if we're still on the topic of FO4 romance Gonna chip in on on that too. Bethesda is trully the worst writer of modern AAA RPG studios, hands down. The romances in FO4 were lifted straight out of cheapass soap operas and felt "video-gamey" to the bone. The ideal still remains Obsidian writing actual romances which of course would be the best ever in the industry Bethesda is great at creating open worlds with rich lore to explore. It is more of an open slate for the player to role play thier story as they see fit. Granted the Fallout series is more narrative-focused than TES but I like that Bethesda often leaves much to the player's imagination. Maybe on the website, but the romance's thread on the forum is having a different reaction to it. I think that says more about the type of people who frequent Obsidians forums than anything. I tend to avoid their forums because they seem to be home to a more hardcore and elitist crowd than, say, the BSN. I really enjoyed the first pillars of eternity, and the lack of romances didn't affect my enjoyment of the game at all, but I still think the new relationship system will add a to the second game and am looking forward to it. It is never a good idea to collectively judge people. Also always remember people complaining are the loudest in pretty much any discussion. well its only reasonable in a world of bell curves to expect there to be an opposite to BSN's, or rather BioWare's fanbase, rabid and maniacal fixation on romances To be fair Bioware fans the flames if not pours gasoline on the fire.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 27, 2017 17:22:36 GMT
It would be hilarious if Jaal as bi and this all this panic wound up being for nothing It would be the greatest cathartic laugh in the Milky Way
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Feb 27, 2017 17:25:58 GMT
Personally, this whole thing has given me so much anxiety. I even have dreams about confirmations and being let down. It is awful. =/ I wish I could give a proper answer but I am getting 3 different stories. And each one could have changed. Nothing is official at all! I know. I thank you and many others for trying to keep everyone positive. I may take a break for a bit to try and distance myself from the anxiety because it really is messing with my ability to function for some reason.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 17:29:03 GMT
I wish I could give a proper answer but I am getting 3 different stories. And each one could have changed. Nothing is official at all! I know. I thank you and many others for trying to keep everyone positive. I may take a break for a bit to try and distance myself from the anxiety because it really is messing with my ability to function for some reason. If it's upsetting you or anyone, a break would be wise.
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Post by zaefkol on Feb 27, 2017 17:31:43 GMT
Yeah am I missing something? Personally, this whole thing has given me so much anxiety. I even have dreams about confirmations and being let down. It is awful. =/ While I haven't had dreams about romance confirmations, I can tell that I've been starting to spend too much time here because I have been starting to have dreams about Mass Effect.
Last night, for instance, I was having a sci-fi action dream where I was trying to escape a large ship that was about to be sacrificed in order to let two other ships (filled with wealthier people) escape from some type of battle. Then, I suddenly realized that the battle that I was caught up in the middle of was the Reaper invasion of Earth at the beginning of Mass Effect 3, and I saw that scene with the big ship exploding while Shepard and Anderson are running along in the prologue from a different angle. And then there was a cutscene of a whole bunch of Alliance ships getting destroyed by the arriving Reaper forces, and then I woke up.
And now to try to find some way to tangentially connect this all back to romance in Andromeda, so this comment isn't completely off topic... I vaguely remember that I had a love interest that I got separated from near the beginning of the dream that I was trying to get back to. Because of this, I feel it would be interesting if there was a love interest in Andromeda who gets separated from the rest of the crew at some point, making you go on a quest or something to reunite with and/or save them.
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