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Post by Sarayne on Mar 3, 2017 12:44:33 GMT
On a more positive note maybe the smaller squad will lead to more crew interaction/development . I always felt that one of the biggest problem with me2, is how big the companion squad is. It always felt like each companion didn't get enough screen time and growth (Especially Legion) over the course of the game.
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Post by lurkinganon on Mar 3, 2017 13:07:57 GMT
On a more positive note maybe the smaller squad will lead to more crew interaction/development . Maybe. I'm up for lots of chats with Jath.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 13:11:36 GMT
Ok zaefkol has pretty much perfectly illustrated what a lot of people here strongly believe. For those of you who love NPC and crewmate romances, that's wonderful. I am glad you love and enjoy them. But there are people who will always prefer the squadmate romances, like, you know, everyone else since they always guaranteed to have one, if not two options on the squad. I can't speak for everyone, but I know that I am not telling any people who like NPC romances that they are wrong, and they should like squadmate romances. The same should go for people who like squadmate romances, they should not be told that they are wrong, and should accept NPC romances. But to sum up... what zaefkol said.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 3, 2017 13:16:11 GMT
On a more positive note maybe the smaller squad will lead to more crew interaction/development . I always felt that one of the biggest problem with me2, is how big the companion squad is. It always felt like each companion didn't get enough screen time and growth (Especially Legion) over the course of the game. I'd certainly agree 12 was too many in ME2. However i think 6 causes problems in terms of tailoring the squad you are using to your character.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 13:21:50 GMT
Is it just me or has the same discussion been going on for 100+ pages now?
Bioware tries to make realistic people, and sometimes that means that a character you like won't return your affection - which sucks, I understand. I am not saying that their shouldn't be as many gay romances as straight ones or that what you want is wrong (personally I completely understand), but I feel bad for Bioware because this is something they can't win.
The only way to make everyone happy is to make every romance player-sexual - like in DA II. Personally I am completely fine with this, but I also saw the uproar it caused when all in DA II were romancable by both genders. No matter what they do, someone will be dissapointed, outraged or feel stepped on.
The only way to avoid this is by having a "will you allow same-sex relationships?" button, and I don't see anyone responding well to that idea.
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Post by Joey on Mar 3, 2017 13:30:53 GMT
Is it just me or has the same discussion been going on for 100+ pages now? Bioware tries to make realistic people, and sometimes that means that a character you like won't return your affection - which sucks, I understand. I am not saying that their shouldn't be as many gay romances as straight ones or that what you want is wrong (personally I completely understand), but I feel bad for Bioware because this is something they can't win. The only way to make everyone happy is to make every romance player-sexual - like in DA II. Personally I am completely fine with this, but I also saw the uproar it caused when all in DA II were romancable by both genders. No matter what they do, someone will be dissapointed, outraged or feel stepped on. The only way to avoid this is by having a "will you allow same-sex relationships?" button, and I don't see anyone responding well to that idea. Realistic? It's a friggin video game. It isn't real life. And because it isn't real life, I'm using games to escape reality. Now I won't be able to do this.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 3, 2017 13:40:51 GMT
And again the realism emerges in a scifi videogame @cowoline we are not asking for DA2 system, we are asking for equality in options, damn it's not even that, we're asking for a freaking single m/m squadmate unlike straight romances which will have 2 options at least in the squad. Seriously is that hard to empathize? Sorry dear, Bioware is not the victim here.
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Post by megs80 on Mar 3, 2017 13:41:04 GMT
Is it just me or has the same discussion been going on for 100+ pages now? Bioware tries to make realistic people, and sometimes that means that a character you like won't return your affection - which sucks, I understand. I am not saying that their shouldn't be as many gay romances as straight ones or that what you want is wrong (personally I completely understand), but I feel bad for Bioware because this is something they can't win. The only way to make everyone happy is to make every romance player-sexual - like in DA II. Personally I am completely fine with this, but I also saw the uproar it caused when all in DA II were romancable by both genders. No matter what they do, someone will be dissapointed, outraged or feel stepped on. The only way to avoid this is by having a "will you allow same-sex relationships?" button, and I don't see anyone responding well to that idea. (Shrugs) From what I can tell most forum threads are like that, comes from regular traffic of users coming and going. Also Romance thread .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 13:47:44 GMT
Is it just me or has the same discussion been going on for 100+ pages now? Bioware tries to make realistic people, and sometimes that means that a character you like won't return your affection - which sucks, I understand. I am not saying that their shouldn't be as many gay romances as straight ones or that what you want is wrong (personally I completely understand), but I feel bad for Bioware because this is something they can't win. The only way to make everyone happy is to make every romance player-sexual - like in DA II. Personally I am completely fine with this, but I also saw the uproar it caused when all in DA II were romancable by both genders. No matter what they do, someone will be dissapointed, outraged or feel stepped on. The only way to avoid this is by having a "will you allow same-sex relationships?" button, and I don't see anyone responding well to that idea. To me, the issue isn't that some people won't return my gay Scott's affection. It's that consistently, gay male PC's have gotten less options and/or less prominent options. I'm fine with them making characters with pre-determined sexualities. In fact, I prefer it. My issue is when they seem to follow the same old patterns and the same group(s) seem to be on the receiving end of the less desirable options. Female character with the strongest plot connection? Always available to straight guys (Bastila, Dawn Star, Morrigan, Miranda, Cassandra, Cora, every plot relevant female companion in SWTOR), sometimes bisexual (Liara, Isabela) Male character with the strongest plot connection? Always straight ( maybe you could argue that Anders played this role in DA2) Starting female squadmate/companion (i.e. in the group the longest and always mandatory recruitment)? Almost always available to only straight guys (Dawn Star, Ashley, Morrigan, Miranda, Cassandra) - Aveline is the notable exception, because she's not an LI Starting male squadmate/companion? Almost always available to only straight gals (Carth, Kaidan in ME, Alistair, Jacob, Solas, Liam [likely]) It's just an unfortunate trend and there's no reason why people can't call it out. Why can't Liam be gay? Why can't Cora be a lesbian? They could but it's never happened and that's the issue. Not that characters have set sexualities.
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Post by Sarayne on Mar 3, 2017 13:48:30 GMT
Is it just me or has the same discussion been going on for 100+ pages now?
Bioware tries to make realistic people, and sometimes that means that a character you like won't return your affection - which sucks, I understand. I am not saying that their shouldn't be as many gay romances as straight ones or that what you want is wrong (personally I completely understand), but I feel bad for Bioware because this is something they can't win. The only way to make everyone happy is to make every romance player-sexual - like in DA II. Personally I am completely fine with this, but I also saw the uproar it caused when all in DA II were romancable by both genders. No matter what they do, someone will be dissapointed, outraged or feel stepped on. The only way to avoid this is by having a "will you allow same-sex relationships?" button, and I don't see anyone responding well to that idea. The only part I agree with is the bolded part and yea some these arguments have been going in a circle for 50 pages now. I want gay male ryders to have their squad mate but its just so doom and gloom here. Really makes me feel kinda depressed when I read this thread (I still love it here).
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 3, 2017 13:54:46 GMT
Is it just me or has the same discussion been going on for 100+ pages now?
Bioware tries to make realistic people, and sometimes that means that a character you like won't return your affection - which sucks, I understand. I am not saying that their shouldn't be as many gay romances as straight ones or that what you want is wrong (personally I completely understand), but I feel bad for Bioware because this is something they can't win. The only way to make everyone happy is to make every romance player-sexual - like in DA II. Personally I am completely fine with this, but I also saw the uproar it caused when all in DA II were romancable by both genders. No matter what they do, someone will be dissapointed, outraged or feel stepped on. The only way to avoid this is by having a "will you allow same-sex relationships?" button, and I don't see anyone responding well to that idea. The only part I agree with is the bolded part and yea some these arguments have been going in a circle for 50 pages now. I want gay male ryders to have their squad mate but its just so doom and gloom here. Really makes me feel kinda depressed when I read this thread (I still love it here). But seriously you're totally right.
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Post by Natashina on Mar 3, 2017 13:56:26 GMT
Most pre-Launch character/romance threads are like this. One of the biggest was a Romance thread that went on for about 5 months and hit over 700 pages before it closed. Remember, that thread got that big and closed before DA:I's release. A hundred pages of hope and concerns on our site is nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 13:58:42 GMT
Most pre-Launch character/romance threads are like this. One of the biggest was a Romance thread that went on for about 5 months and hit over 700 pages before it closed. Remember, that thread got that big and closed before DA:I's release. A hundred pages of hope and concerns on our site is nothing. I remember when I modded at an anime forum and the final episode of a certain anime that would reveal all the couples had aired. We had to lock down the forum because of the rage lol but this place is doing really well tbh.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 3, 2017 14:00:15 GMT
Most pre-Launch character/romance threads are like this. One of the biggest was a Romance thread that went on for about 5 months and hit over 700 pages before it closed. Remember, that thread got that big and closed before DA:I's release. A hundred pages of hope and concerns on our site is nothing. We have still two/three weeks to go
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Post by hammerstorm on Mar 3, 2017 14:01:34 GMT
Is it just me or has the same discussion been going on for 100+ pages now? Bioware tries to make realistic people, and sometimes that means that a character you like won't return your affection - which sucks, I understand. I am not saying that their shouldn't be as many gay romances as straight ones or that what you want is wrong (personally I completely understand), but I feel bad for Bioware because this is something they can't win. The only way to make everyone happy is to make every romance player-sexual - like in DA II. Personally I am completely fine with this, but I also saw the uproar it caused when all in DA II were romancable by both genders. No matter what they do, someone will be dissapointed, outraged or feel stepped on. The only way to avoid this is by having a "will you allow same-sex relationships?" button, and I don't see anyone responding well to that idea. Realistic? It's a friggin video game. It isn't real life. And because it isn't real life, I'm using games to escape reality. Now I won't be able to do this. I see this fucking answer all the time when people are using the word "realistic". I don't know if people are seriously that stupid, or they are just trying to act that stupid. What most people are meaning with this word, is that the person are created in a way that makes you (general you) feel like that person should exist. Does that mean that the person must be made in one way or another? No, but for the game to make you feel immersed it have to have some things to make sense. In that regard a game creator sometimes have to make people (or situations) that you wont like, but it is there to make the world feel more alive. Can it backfire? Of course, but that does not mean that they should not try. Now, regarding the whole squad/nosquad npc Li, in mass effect I can't really say that I have felt that having a Li in the squad made any difference. ME never had any, for me, significant romance dialog/banter options that trigger in the field, so it makes no difference in that regard. That some people want their Li in the squad for whatever reason I can't argue against, but that is just a preference. But it will be easier (and smarter) to discuss those things AFTER the game is out, so people can point out what they didn't like. (Eh, who am I kidding, people love getting worked up about every little thing that they think they may not like)
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Post by Panda on Mar 3, 2017 14:11:32 GMT
I guess I don't just see NPC and crewromances as something that are always lacking in content and unfair compared to squadromances. If Bioware had same content for crewromances as squadmances in ME:A- as happened with DAI- I'd value them equally high. However based on information this far I doubt it.
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Post by megs80 on Mar 3, 2017 14:12:08 GMT
Realistic? It's a friggin video game. It isn't real life. And because it isn't real life, I'm using games to escape reality. Now I won't be able to do this. I see this fucking answer all the time when people are using the word "realistic". I don't know if people are seriously that stupid, or they are just trying to act that stupid. What most people are meaning with this word, is that the person are created in a way that makes you (general you) feel like that person should exist. Does that mean that the person must be made in one way or another? No, but for the game to make you feel immersed it have to have some things to make sense. In that regard a game creator sometimes have to make people (or situations) that you wont like, but it is there to make the world feel more alive. Can it backfire? Of course, but that does not mean that they should not try. Now, regarding the whole squad/nosquad npc Li, in mass effect I can't really say that I have felt that having a Li in the squad made any difference. ME never had any, for me, significant romance dialog/banter options that trigger in the field, so it makes no difference in that regard. That some people want their Li in the squad for whatever reason I can't argue against, but that is just a preference. But it will be easier (and smarter) to discuss those things AFTER the game is out, so people can point out what they didn't like. (Eh, who am I kidding, people love getting worked up about every little thing that they think they may not like) Ah but different people have varying tolerances for how much something can diverge before becoming unrealistic, that being where personal preference comes in . People try to use this sentiment to control their content and by extension other peoples as well.
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Post by megs80 on Mar 3, 2017 14:14:06 GMT
I guess I don't just see NPC and crewromances as something that are always lacking in content and unfair compared to squadromances. If Bioware had same content for crewromances as squadmances in ME:A- as happened with DAI- I'd value them equally high. However based on information this far I doubt it. I think the emphasis is on different rather than lacking .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 14:14:49 GMT
I guess I don't just see NPC and crewromances as something that are always lacking in content and unfair compared to squadromances. If Bioware had same content for crewromances as squadmances in ME:A- as happened with DAI- I'd value them equally high. However based on information this far I doubt it. Cullen was my fav and always will be, but DA and ME are very different. DA had meaningful relationships with NPC's that felt right. ME never had that imo. It felt like they were added just for the sake of being added. If the NPC romances in MEA are anything like Cullen or Josie, people will not be disappointed, but the question is, how much was MEA inspired by DAI like the dev's said?
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Post by hammerstorm on Mar 3, 2017 14:17:15 GMT
I see this fucking answer all the time when people are using the word "realistic". I don't know if people are seriously that stupid, or they are just trying to act that stupid. What most people are meaning with this word, is that the person are created in a way that makes you (general you) feel like that person should exist. Does that mean that the person must be made in one way or another? No, but for the game to make you feel immersed it have to have some things to make sense. In that regard a game creator sometimes have to make people (or situations) that you wont like, but it is there to make the world feel more alive. Can it backfire? Of course, but that does not mean that they should not try. Now, regarding the whole squad/nosquad npc Li, in mass effect I can't really say that I have felt that having a Li in the squad made any difference. ME never had any, for me, significant romance dialog/banter options that trigger in the field, so it makes no difference in that regard. That some people want their Li in the squad for whatever reason I can't argue against, but that is just a preference. But it will be easier (and smarter) to discuss those things AFTER the game is out, so people can point out what they didn't like. (Eh, who am I kidding, people love getting worked up about every little thing that they think they may not like) Ah but different people have varying tolerances for how much something can diverge before becoming unrealistic, that being where personal preference comes in . People try to use this sentiment to control their content and by extension other peoples as well. Yes, but the fact that everytime I see that answer I wonder what game they really want if nothing is going to be realistic. At least it should give me a idea on how it feels to be high. And when it comes to npc, it is really hard for the creators to make a character that everybody will like, so the best they can do is make them as realistic as possible so even if you hate their guts (Arl howe) you can still see what their idea was. But I agree that almost everything is relative.
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Post by Sarayne on Mar 3, 2017 14:22:37 GMT
I guess I don't just see NPC and crewromances as something that are always lacking in content and unfair compared to squadromances. If Bioware had same content for crewromances as squadmances in ME:A- as happened with DAI- I'd value them equally high. However based on information this far I doubt it. Hasn't bioware said that characters have a lot more dialogue than the previous Mass Effect games?
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Post by megs80 on Mar 3, 2017 14:24:57 GMT
Ah but different people have varying tolerances for how much something can diverge before becoming unrealistic, that being where personal preference comes in . People try to use this sentiment to control their content and by extension other peoples as well. Yes, but the fact that everytime I see that answer I wonder what game they really want if nothing is going to be realistic. At least it should give me a idea on how it feels to be high. And when it comes to npc, it is really hard for the creators to make a character that everybody will like, so the best they can do is make them as realistic as possible so even if you hate their guts (Arl howe) you can still see what their idea was. But I agree that almost everything is relative. No disagreement here, Like me some well rounded characters (To be fair it often seems that most of the arguments here are more down to semantics than content). The main difficulty is that some misuse that argument to invalidate any view but theirs hence the often fraught response.
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Post by jaybo on Mar 3, 2017 14:46:58 GMT
No, i would say the thing with ME:A (or DAI) is that many people do not feel that way and for good reasons that cannot not be proven false. Some people like having their LIs around on field, but that doesn't mean that crewmates can't be as important as them as characters I do not believe anyone is saying that. Non-squaddie relationships could have any amount of well written dialogue and scenes (whether or not it's likely high end potential is achieved in that regard in ME:A is another debate). But the highest level of interaction and variety of content that can be used to tell stories and build relationships is reserved for squad mates. There is really no getting around that this is very likely to be fact.
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Post by not so salty shark on Mar 3, 2017 15:01:19 GMT
Is it just me or has the same discussion been going on for 100+ pages now? Bioware tries to make realistic people ...aaaaannnd you lost me. Tell me, what's so unrealistic about having a group that contains many bisexual and gay people? And if you're insistent that that's too brain-exploding to comprehend, let's not ignore the fact that this is a freaking VIDEO GAME that's unabashedly chock-full of unrealistic elements. Why does that have to stop at romance?
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Post by Panda on Mar 3, 2017 15:06:32 GMT
I guess I don't just see NPC and crewromances as something that are always lacking in content and unfair compared to squadromances. If Bioware had same content for crewromances as squadmances in ME:A- as happened with DAI- I'd value them equally high. However based on information this far I doubt it. Hasn't bioware said that characters have a lot more dialogue than the previous Mass Effect games? I know the one where every squad member has more dialogue than the character that had most in trilogy had, but I have no idea of crewmates. Some people like having their LIs around on field, but that doesn't mean that crewmates can't be as important as them as characters I do not believe anyone is saying that. Non-squaddie relationships could have any amount of well written dialogue and scenes (whether or not it's likely high end potential is achieved in that regard in ME:A is another debate). But the highest level of interaction and variety of content that can be used to tell stories and build relationships is reserved for squad mates. There is really no getting around that this is very likely to be fact. I don't know, I think the why DAI did it made both to level of squadies. You kinda get some romance moments with Cullen at least during advising though they are small so since NPC romances were advisors you would have content with them you wouldn't with squad. I think that helped to bring it close. For example if Joker had been LI in trilogy, I think you would have had some high level interactions with him you didn't have with squad- since you already had them as friend of his. I'm not saying that ME:A will be like DAI though, I'm just arguing that at least to me it's possible for NPC romance to be as good.
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