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Post by GalentheYounger on Jan 31, 2017 18:40:17 GMT
Perhaps this concern is unfounded,but I find it disturbing that MEA has not had more advertisement / promotion. I'm following, for example, Horizon Zero Dawn, and they've already given copies of the game to multiple youtubers and have a great deal of gameplay in YouTube Already.
Perhaps it's my own personal need for instant gratification but I want to see more than a teaser trailer every month. This is my first time waiting for a Bioware game so I am uncertain as to their past marketing strategies.
Are my fears unfounded? Or do you agree that you want to see more material as well?
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Post by BadgerladDK on Jan 31, 2017 18:45:21 GMT
I wouldn't say no to a decent slice of not-too-edited gameplay, but I'm actually ok with the pacing so far. The build-up to DA:I was, imo, too long and used too early versions of the game, leading to stuff like "Crestwood-gate" where they showed off stuff that wasn't in the final game. Now, there's always a risk of stuff getting cut late (the strategy guide for DA:I had a section on trade, millitary and diplomacy keeps, as I recall), but showing stuff later does at least limit the risk somewhat.
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Post by Cyonan on Jan 31, 2017 18:48:54 GMT
It's not normal of BioWare's past marketing strategies(We knew most of DA:I like a full year before it came out), but it's also hard to say if it's a sign of bad things or not.
When Bethesda announced they were holding back review copies of DOOM for critics until release day people thought that meant they had no faith in the game and that it would be a terrible game, especially after the multiplayer beta didn't go so well. In the end the singleplayer got plenty of praise from both critics and fans.
So a lack of information isn't inherently a "the game is going to be bad" as some people will say it is a sign of, but in general I always advise being informed when buying games and not pre-ordering unless sufficient information is available pre-release though things like betas.
I would also enjoy seeing a video that has 5 or so minutes of uncut gameplay footage.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jan 31, 2017 19:02:17 GMT
It is kind of weird. I still haven't preordered this game, nor have I felt particularly compelled to do so. With DAI, I was super excited and couldn't wait to get my copy. For MEA I'm still eagerly anticipating the game, but nothing I've seen has generated anywhere near the excitement I usually have for BioWare games.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 19:04:18 GMT
Nothing will be the same in a post-No Man's Sky world. Nothing. A turning point in the history of digital entertainment.
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Post by Lunatic on Jan 31, 2017 19:08:52 GMT
Someone said we are supposed to be getting some proper gameplay footage in february. I honestly don't mind this minimalist approach to marketing, better that than promising us too much and then falling short on those promises. Right now I'm just waiting for more gameplay footage showing us at least that the promise to tweak the facial animations was upheld. If I like what I see I'll probably place my pre-order reasonably soon after.
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Post by Cyonan on Jan 31, 2017 19:11:44 GMT
Nothing will be the same in a post-No Man's Sky world. Nothing. A turning point in the history of digital entertainment. I think that's what we said about Aliens: Colonial Marines, for pretty much the same reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 19:23:21 GMT
Inside and outside of this forum the tiny bits of stuff they've shown has sent people flying all over the place in excitement. I suspect they are gong to keep drawing it out and then hit us with bigger stuff closer to the release. By showing too much too soon, people felt a bit ripped off by DAI. Like the Crestwood Keep choice that was cut.
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Post by Elessar on Jan 31, 2017 19:27:55 GMT
Horizon Zero Dawn is coming out almost a month earlier so it's not unusual being ahead in terms of reveals.
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Post by fiannawolf on Jan 31, 2017 19:37:20 GMT
*has flashbacks to Aliens:CM*
Ewwwww.
Back to topic....yeah, either they are keeping things tight lipped due to former fallout or they just don't want to put everything out there like they did with DA:I, I dont think anything about that game really surprised me. If I wanted to be honest, it was fairly straightforward, with regards to plot.
Here's hoping the story will be richer then DA:I. Maybe they haven't put out more information because they're not sure how fans will react?
At this point, I wonder if they are going a Force Awaken's route? Without seeing more story trailers or actual gameplay, I could sit here all day and keep thinking of reasons.
The sci fi fan in me wants this game to be good but the skeptic in me is weary about whats gonna happen. Lets hope Ill be surprised and relieved at then end.
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Post by optimusleo on Jan 31, 2017 19:41:22 GMT
On one side, it's good since it doesn't lead up to more unnecessary hype that plagues almost every AAA game these days. I think this game doesn't need that big of a promotion, since they know most (if not all) ME fans will eventually get it.
On the other side, the things they have showed so far, have made me jump off the hype train officially since the cinematic trailer #2. And reading around these forums (I Just found out them recently, I wish I had known about it before), seems like I'm not the only one feeling the same.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 19:43:23 GMT
*has flashbacks to Aliens:CM* Ewwwww. Back to topic....yeah, either they are keeping things tight lipped due to former fallout or they just don't want to put everything out there like they did with DA:I, I dont think anything about that game really surprised me. If I wanted to be honest, it was fairly straightforward, with regards to plot. Here's hoping the story will be richer then DA:I. Maybe they haven't put out more information because they're not sure how fans will react? At this point, I wonder if they are going a Force Awaken's route? Without seeing more story trailers or actual gameplay, I could sit here all day and keep thinking of reasons. The sci fi fan in me wants this game to be good but the skeptic in me is weary about whats gonna happen. Lets hope Ill be surprised and relieved at then end. That's what this is reminding me of! How they promoted TFA and now The Last Jedi! Come to think of it... isn't Beauty and the Beast also being promoted in a very slow way? This might be a new thing.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 31, 2017 19:54:22 GMT
Yes, it is quite worrying.
I don't know of a single AAA game with a 90+ score on metacritic that had this lack of game shown so close to release. I mean, we have GTAIV and GTAV, but those games are on a league of their own in terms of selling potential.
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Post by MrR40 on Jan 31, 2017 20:05:23 GMT
It's like advertising a solid 24 carat gold bar and end up selling a gold painted rock. ( No Man's Sky analogy )
In my humble opinion DA:I suffered from " overpromotion " , perhaps they learned some lessons and decided to take it down a notch.
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 31, 2017 20:09:36 GMT
Nothing will be the same in a post-No Man's Sky world. Nothing. A turning point in the history of digital entertainment. What did it change? I doubt overall the marketing of games will change much. Some will have bigger marketing, other less.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 31, 2017 20:12:04 GMT
The tactic is fascinating.
Fallout 4 and no Mans Sky have surely changed the game.
EA/BioWare will know if they have pulled it off in 60 days time...
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 31, 2017 20:12:56 GMT
In my humble opinion DA:I suffered from " overpromotion " , perhaps they learned some lessons and decided to take it down a notch. And what lessons did they learn? I mean, EA stated that DAI had the biggest launch in Bioware's history. So if anything the marketing did its job perfectly. I suppose you mean showing features that won't be in the final game and then having to deal with angry "fans"? Well, Andromeda is getting more of that even before its release!
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 31, 2017 20:18:24 GMT
The tactic is fascinating. Fallout 4 and no Mans Sky have surely changed the game. EA/BioWare will know if they have pulled it off in 60 days time... Andromeda's marketing is VERY similar to ME3's. Even they launch window is the same. It's nothing new. That's why I don't see any connection with other games' success or failures.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 20:19:40 GMT
Nothing will be the same in a post-No Man's Sky world. Nothing. A turning point in the history of digital entertainment. What did it change? I doubt overall the marketing of games will change much. Some will have bigger marketing, other less. Everything.No I'm just being silly. It probably hasn't changed anything. It may have changed the pre-ordering habits of people who bought the game, of course. But then again, NMS isn't the only promotional disaster in recent memory. In the past few years there's been a few major f*ck-ups; like the pre-order ransom campaign of the latest Deus Ex (which got cancelled); games announcing DLC before the game itself (I think that's what happened with Evolve); huge controversies over the use of 'bullshots', etc. I doubt that they can afford to continue acting as brazenly as they've been lately.
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Post by leonick on Jan 31, 2017 20:21:46 GMT
Nah, still plenty of time to get the marketing going. I much prefer a concentrated marketing campaign in the month or two before launch over early previews that turn out to be quite different from the final game (DAI). Also, anyone can get a 10 hour demo, what is it, a week early? Compare that with the increasingly common tactic of holding back review copies until after launch and I'd say that shows some confidence. Horizon: Zero Dawn honestly hasn't had the best marketing either. I've watched official videos as I've spotted them on the couple gaming news sites I follow, only today did I see a preview and realise there is a variety of equipment, an inventory, and dialogue options. When Bethesda announced they were holding back review copies of DOOM for critics until release day people thought that meant they had no faith in the game and that it would be a terrible game, especially after the multiplayer beta didn't go so well. In the end the singleplayer got plenty of praise from both critics and fans. Of course, they did go on to reveal they were in fact worried the singleplayer would be branded as "same old" generic shooter so...
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Post by Reznore on Jan 31, 2017 20:27:06 GMT
Big part of the promotion is probably going to be done through Twitch and Youtube via YOutuber and streamers. Probably like 2 weeks before launch. But it's possible they are rather unsure of what the overall reception is going to be and this won't happen.
There's also going to be some EA play preview thingie , no? Well here's some free promotion too.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 31, 2017 20:29:31 GMT
The tactic is fascinating. Fallout 4 and no Mans Sky have surely changed the game. EA/BioWare will know if they have pulled it off in 60 days time... Andromeda's marketing is VERY similar to ME3's. Even they launch window is the same. It's nothing new. That's why I don't see any connection with other games' success or failures. This is true. ME3 had 5 trailers up to 50 days out. MEA has had 8, plus 4 briefings. ME2 had more, however, particularly focused on the characters and earlier, and so did DAI.
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Post by MrR40 on Jan 31, 2017 20:29:38 GMT
In my humble opinion DA:I suffered from " overpromotion " , perhaps they learned some lessons and decided to take it down a notch. And what lessons did they learn? I mean, EA stated that DAI had the biggest launch in Bioware's history. So if anything the marketing did its job perfectly. I suppose you mean showing features that won't be in the final game and then having to deal with angry "fans"? Well, Andromeda is getting more of that even before its release! Which features have been shown for ME:A that did not make the final cut ? ( sorry but I avoided the hype train this time compared to DA:I )
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 31, 2017 20:34:33 GMT
I'm pretty sure I've seen lenghty gameplay walkthroughs of Horizon: Zero Dawn. I'm not sure if its marketing can be compared to Andromeda's.
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Post by Otter on Jan 31, 2017 20:35:02 GMT
[...]DA:I suffered from " overpromotion " , perhaps they learned some lessons and decided to take it down a notch. This. There's been a pretty big trend in the past few years for games to be advertised in shorter, more intense marketing cycles than the long ones we've seen in the past. Bioware seems to be taking a page from games like DOOM, Fallout 4, Civilization VI, and XCOM2 (just off the top of my head) as far as marketing goes. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is open to interpretation, but if I had to guess, they're reasoning that they have enough ME fans who will buy Andromeda at or shortly after launch regardless of how it's marketed, and there's no point in marketing to people who refuse to pre-order at all. Also, Andromeda is the first time since DA:O that we've seen anything like new IP from Bioware. We're getting at least two entirely new major species, plus a new precursor-ish species, a completely new cast, and a whole new galaxy of lore. That's all the sort of stuff that's best experienced in the context of the game itself. I would be interested if they put out an article talking about, for example, how the kett government works. But the entire point of the game is exploring a completely unknown galaxy. Ryder will, presumably, interact with the kett government not knowing how it works, and find out through that, at the same time as the player. If they tell you, it would ruin that.
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