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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 22:19:00 GMT
I never played ME1 to be ninjamanced by Liara, but I worried she'd try to snipe my Shep in ME3 post Thane's death when I played, and I did find that it was DIFFICULT to take a neutral stance with her. I didn't hate/dislike her and I didn't love her and the neutral options (that I construed as not mean but not flirting) were limited. But I guess I'll find out! In ME3, romances are just... bad all around; particularly for FemShep (IMO). The romances are actually at their best when the LI dies in ME3 in some way (the parting scene with Thane and with Miranda are both very good). Most of the interactions with Liara, I relegated to the context of her being more of a sibling than anything. That helped me not interpret some of the lines as flirting, but rather as just being comfortable and close like with a family member. One good thing about ME3 romances is that the decision points on the romances are very clear for everyone and accepting one will universally lock out all others. So, if you don't want to go through a conversation specifically rejecting someone, just be sure to accept someone else as your LI before proceeding to their meetup on the Citadel (or, in the case of Samantha, inviting her up to your cabin). Liara's gift offering in London, IIRC, can be turned down. The cabin visit is perhaps someone overly friendly at the end, but not intolerably so. I honestly have no issues with her even though I very seldom romance her.
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Post by MarilynRobert on May 16, 2018 22:29:23 GMT
I had no idea "the Quarian" with info was Tali. I'm so silly. I played the game 3 times before I realized she was Tali.
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Post by phoray on May 16, 2018 22:40:47 GMT
So, if you don't want to go through a conversation specifically rejecting someone, just be sure to accept someone else as your LI before proceeding to their meetup on the Citadel Issue was Thane had died and I was too deep in grief to romance anyone else. so I was single and everyone knocking on my door. Edit Add: Especially James! Should never have agreed to let him call me Lola.
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Post by phoray on May 16, 2018 23:27:02 GMT
Low stakes quasar is a waste of time to play. Now high stakes quasar has some merit..
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Post by phoray on May 16, 2018 23:44:54 GMT
Awwwww, Septimus said I'd make a good general someday. Also enjoyed his trash banter with Wrex
I'm now at 18/21 keepers. I guess I can only reach the docking bay if I leave the citadel?
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Post by phoray on May 16, 2018 23:58:18 GMT
I feel a bit underwhelmed about the whole Spectre description considering they made Saren one...
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 0:00:59 GMT
I didn't like a dialogue line I picked, so I reloaded and tried some different ones. How interesting, Top Right and Middle was the exact same dialogue multiple times.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 0:07:14 GMT
Awwwww, Septimus said I'd make a good general someday. Also enjoyed his trash banter with Wrex I'm now at 18/21 keepers. I guess I can only reach the docking bay if I leave the citadel? You can get to the keeper without speaking with either Udina or Anderson and then go back down the elevator. You can also speak with Udina and Anderson, board the ship and not actually leave the Citadel with the ship; that is, just go back out the door after you've officially gained control of Normandy. You can also just finish up the keeper assignment anytime before the endgame starts.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 0:12:21 GMT
I didn't like a dialogue line I picked, so I reloaded and tried some different ones. How interesting, Top Right and Middle was the exact same dialogue multiple times. Yeah, that's a pet peeve of mine about ME1... a lot of pseudo-choices that just aren't choices and result in the same dialogue actually being said regardless of which option the player picks. There is even a video about it on Youtube where he shows the dialogue happening in side-by-side frames. I won't put the link because it has ME1 spoilers, so you won't want to see it anyways.
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Post by dragontartare on May 17, 2018 0:14:26 GMT
I never played ME1 to be ninjamanced by Liara, but I worried she'd try to snipe my Shep in ME3 post Thane's death when I played, and I did find that it was DIFFICULT to take a neutral stance with her. I didn't hate/dislike her and I didn't love her and the neutral options (that I construed as not mean but not flirting) were limited. But I guess I'll find out! I don't remember reading about any ninjamancing in ME3. I was too busy having Shepard be blissfully happy with Garrus to notice, though. Edit Add: Especially James! Should never have agreed to let him call me Lola. James loves to flirt, but he doesn't actually want that sort of relationship with Shepard, so your character's romance (lack thereof?) wasn't in any danger from him. I watched the fling scene on YouTube, and it seemed pretty clear that James was being pressured into something with Shepard that he didn't really want. He just... really loves flirting. I'm now at 18/21 keepers. I guess I can only reach the docking bay if I leave the citadel? In case you haven't found the docking bay yet, you have to enter through C-Sec. Took me forever to find it. I think I ended up asking somebody where the hell it was.
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 0:28:12 GMT
I didn't like a dialogue line I picked, so I reloaded and tried some different ones. How interesting, Top Right and Middle was the exact same dialogue multiple times. Yeah, that's a pet peeve of mine about ME1... a lot of pseudo-choices that just aren't choices and result in the same dialogue actually being said regardless of which option the player picks. There is even a video about it on Youtube where he shows the dialogue happening in side-by-side frames. I won't put the link because it has ME1 spoilers, so you won't want to see it anyways. That may be my problem, I've never gotten to the tower any other way but the fast travel
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 1:11:02 GMT
Yeah, that's a pet peeve of mine about ME1... a lot of pseudo-choices that just aren't choices and result in the same dialogue actually being said regardless of which option the player picks. There is even a video about it on Youtube where he shows the dialogue happening in side-by-side frames. I won't put the link because it has ME1 spoilers, so you won't want to see it anyways. That may be my problem, I've never gotten to the tower any other way but the fast travel If you've only ever used fast travel to get to the Citadel Tower, you're probably missing the keeper that is right at the base of the tower next to Avina #2.
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 1:27:06 GMT
Just had to googl where the Docking Bay is because I have no idea Also, turns out I wasn't able to scan the Keeper by that Avina after all *chin rub* I wonder how I'll get to be allowed to.
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 1:32:57 GMT
You can also just finish up the keeper assignment anytime before the endgame starts. I was just wanting to maximize levels and charm points before I went out in the wild blue yonder. I hate the lack of options on how to speak, the greyed out Blue and Red Options taunt me.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 1:36:37 GMT
Just had to googl where the Docking Bay is because I have no idea Also, turns out I wasn't able to scan the Keeper by that Avina after all *chin rub* I wonder how I'll get to be allowed to. Avina will complain about you scanning that keeper every time and unlike the others, the circle indicator stays active (which means you can scan it multiple times, but you'll only ever be credited with the first one). The only other way you can get locked out of scanning the keepers is to finish Jahleed's fears quest in such a way that you tell either of them that you won't be doing it anymore.
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 1:43:42 GMT
So Avina near the Citadel absolutely won't let me scan that Keeper, even though I'm a spectre now. Does this mean this mission cannot be completed until later even if you wanted to? Looking at a guide, turns out I hadn't noticed Stairs in the Emporium. That was 20. now I just have to destroy Avina. .... or some plot point that either moves the Keeper out of her sight or disables her in some fashion. Edit ADD: he circle indicator stays active (which means you can scan it multiple times, but you'll only ever be credited with the first one). Oh. Then I'll keep looking then. 21, here I come!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 1:59:37 GMT
So Avina near the Citadel absolutely won't let me scan that Keeper, even though I'm a spectre now. Does this mean this mission cannot be completed until later even if you wanted to? Looking at a guide, turns out I hadn't noticed Stairs in the Emporium. That was 20. now I just have to destroy Avina. .... or some plot point that either moves the Keeper out of her sight or disables her in some fashion. Edit ADD: he circle indicator stays active (which means you can scan it multiple times, but you'll only ever be credited with the first one). Oh. Then I'll keep looking then. 21, here I come! Sorry I misled you. Avina will complain, but she can't actually stop you either; so chances are you've already been credited for scanning it the first time.
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 2:13:21 GMT
Had to use Youtube, but this is the naughty one I couldn't find at all! It's a weird little section you can only get to by regular elevator which is why I was missing it.
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Post by dragontartare on May 17, 2018 2:15:43 GMT
Just had to googl where the Docking Bay is because I have no idea But I told you where it was. You even upvoted the post I was just wanting to maximize levels and charm points before I went out in the wild blue yonder. I hate the lack of options on how to speak, the greyed out Blue and Red Options taunt me. Indeed. I hate that as well.
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 2:18:14 GMT
But I told you where it was. You even upvoted the post yes, but then a few hours passed and I forgot. Then after I posted that, I went back and reread some stuff and saw/remembered you had told me and was like... Double facepalm.
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 2:22:45 GMT
Okay! Going to take command of the Normandy, and then switching over to the Renegade Shep.
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 2:23:59 GMT
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Post by dragontartare on May 17, 2018 2:24:35 GMT
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 2:27:08 GMT
Udina agrees with the Council that the Reapers don't exist. He just lost his Chairman spot.
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Post by phoray on May 17, 2018 2:28:43 GMT
Udina: Remember, you were a human long before you were a Spectre. Me: What the hell is that supposed to mean yer speaking nonsense.
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