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Post by colfoley on Feb 9, 2017 22:50:35 GMT
Still doesn't sound legit. I doubt they'd take away your character. Just doesn't sound right. Both that and it would pretty much force into one or the other gender in one of the games which, since this is bioware, find very unlikely. Also, why would Rydad think council is trying to oppress humanity if humanity IS on the council? And he knows about it, since we leave between ME2 and 3. (Also, N7 working with Cerberus? I find that highly unlikely, remember how Jacob says that Alliance people automatically assume Cerberus = bad...unless he died and they Lazarused him too ) You get the distinct impression that humanity was still sort of treated as second class and sort of shunned by the other councilors. Especially, if you nuked the Destiny Ascension. Because if this were the case Cerberus would not have as much meat as they did in ME 2, but yet, they do. Its still 3 Councilors versus 1 AND the Council has always been pretty lawful evil and quite draconian and tyranical in how they approach matters of inter stellar relations.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 22:50:57 GMT
While some of it is believable, it's almost a red/blue/green choice again with your Ryder dying after you've spent the whole game forming friendships and romances. The devs learned long ago that making an ending like that was a no-no and they are not stupid enough to do it again, nor would Cerberus be the villain again. You don't make a new game, try and take everything from the trilogy away from it because of the outrage that was left behind, and then turn around and add it back in.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 9, 2017 22:51:18 GMT
Still doesn't sound legit. I doubt they'd take away your character. Just doesn't sound right. Both that and it would pretty much force into one or the other gender in one of the games which, since this is bioware, find very unlikely. Also, why would Rydad think council is trying to oppress humanity if humanity IS on the council? And he knows about it, since we leave between ME2 and 3. (Also, N7 working with Cerberus? I find that highly unlikely, remember how Jacob says that Alliance people automatically assume Cerberus = bad...unless he died and they Lazarused him too ) You're only forced to play another gender in the sequel if you import a save file I assume. Otherwise you can play as any Ryder but the Ryder you play as in andromeda 2 won't be the hero of this game. On your second point. Power imbalance and not wanting the council to be an authotarian regime in the Milky Way and andromeda towards non-council races seems a plausible motivation to sabotage the project to me.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 9, 2017 22:51:58 GMT
While some of it is believable, it's almost a red/blue/green choice again with your Ryder dying after you've spent the whole game forming friendships and romances. The devs learned long ago that making an ending like that was a no-no and they are not stupid enough to do it again, nor would Cerberus be the villain again. You don't make a new game, try and take everything from the trilogy away form it because of the outage that was left behind, and then turn around and add it back in. But I thought almost no one was mad that Shepard died at the end of ME 3 /Slight Sarcasm.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 22:54:00 GMT
Also, why would Rydad think council is trying to oppress humanity if humanity IS on the council? He'd have to be a Cerberus hardliner, but ... there's this point. Though since papa Ryder was at Shanxi, he could have met the Illusive Man there; which is already being speculated.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 9, 2017 22:56:39 GMT
But there is no evil enemy stated in the text. The enemies are quite literally the AI leaders, and corporate/council interests. The Kett are just religious fanatics defending their holy celestial body from being plundered by "imperialistic" council species and Cerberus are just in it for the ride and their interests. yes, ok but still, this is no "leak" from inside of bioware, this is an unknown person writing a text of his own invention i really hope all this is no true, it would be terrible awful, the Andromeda Initiative just covering a Eezo extraction/ harvest!' too simple and stupid and disappointing Yes but keep in mind that Bioware themselves stated the game is simple and casual compared to ME3 storyline. Besides, I find it interesting that this giant massive(extremely massive) celestial body where 80% of it is made up of eezo emission isn't just some simple eezo harvest. Eezo is established to be precious and a source of energy so the council getting their hands on the AEB is somewhat comparable to 19th century European countries getting their hands on resource rich africa. Look at the modern world today and resource plundering throughout our history.
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Post by Vall on Feb 9, 2017 22:57:41 GMT
Both that and it would pretty much force into one or the other gender in one of the games which, since this is bioware, find very unlikely. Also, why would Rydad think council is trying to oppress humanity if humanity IS on the council? And he knows about it, since we leave between ME2 and 3. (Also, N7 working with Cerberus? I find that highly unlikely, remember how Jacob says that Alliance people automatically assume Cerberus = bad...unless he died and they Lazarused him too ) You get the distinct impression that humanity was still sort of treated as second class and sort of shunned by the other councilors. Especially, if you nuked the Destiny Ascension. Because if this were the case Cerberus would not have as much meat as they did in ME 2, but yet, they do. Its still 3 Councilors versus 1 AND the Council has always been pretty lawful evil and quite draconian and tyranical in how they approach matters of inter stellar relations. To be honest, I never really saw the council as evil or tyrannical in the trilogy. If anything I found them...reasonable if a bit frustrating at times. Maybe I'm just naive /shrug
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Post by fialka on Feb 9, 2017 22:57:54 GMT
I would just like to add a friendly reminder that the OP is a known troll, has repeatedly said that Bioware sucks and that this game will be terrible, and appears to want to see ME: Andromeda fail. And has now managed to find a leak that he refuses to provide a source for, that just so happens to contain a bunch of stuff most ME fans would hate to see.
I suspect a ruse. Points for creativity though?
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Post by SofNascimento on Feb 9, 2017 22:57:58 GMT
N7 working with Cerberus is exactly what happened in ME2. Although it was just Shepard.
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Post by Vall on Feb 9, 2017 23:00:24 GMT
N7 working with Cerberus is exactly what happened in ME2. Although it was just Shepard. I did acknowledge that, note the "unless he got Lazarused part"
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 9, 2017 23:00:25 GMT
I would just like to add a friendly reminder that the OP is a known troll, has repeatedly said that Bioware sucks and that this game will be terrible, and appears to want to see ME: Andromeda fail. And has now managed to find a leak that he refuses to provide a source for, that just so happens to contain a bunch of stuff most ME fans would hate to see. I suspect a ruse. Points for creativity though? uh, I provided my source.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 23:00:27 GMT
I would just like to add a friendly reminder that the OP is a known troll, has repeatedly said that Bioware sucks and that this game will be terrible, and appears to want to see ME: Andromeda fail. And has now managed to find a leak that he refuses to provide a source for, that just so happens to contain a bunch of stuff most ME fans would hate to see. I suspect a ruse. Points for creativity though? This link is what he provided: boards.4chan.org/v/thread/366920093#p366921279
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Post by fiannawolf on Feb 9, 2017 23:01:12 GMT
If any of this is even remotely near any field of legit then I am going to need one hell of a investment in salt. It would be ME3 debacle all over again. Would bioware really commit more Seppuku?
Hmmm.....
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 23:02:30 GMT
I would just like to add a friendly reminder that the OP is a known troll, has repeatedly said that Bioware sucks and that this game will be terrible, and appears to want to see ME: Andromeda fail. And has now managed to find a leak that he refuses to provide a source for, that just so happens to contain a bunch of stuff most ME fans would hate to see. I suspect a ruse. Points for creativity though? uh, I provided my source..... That's not really a valid source since that could literally be anybody who wrote that. I could go on that website and in five minutes have another ending spoiler that is completely the opposite of that and be just as valid.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 9, 2017 23:02:56 GMT
You get the distinct impression that humanity was still sort of treated as second class and sort of shunned by the other councilors. Especially, if you nuked the Destiny Ascension. Because if this were the case Cerberus would not have as much meat as they did in ME 2, but yet, they do. Its still 3 Councilors versus 1 AND the Council has always been pretty lawful evil and quite draconian and tyranical in how they approach matters of inter stellar relations. To be honest, I never really saw the council as evil or tyrannical in the trilogy. If anything I found them...reasonable if a bit frustrating at times. Maybe I'm just naive /shrug Playing through the trilogy this last time that I have been doing it was actually quite uncomfortable when I realized just how draconian and mustache evily the Council Races kind of are. At least as a governing body.
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Post by SofNascimento on Feb 9, 2017 23:04:06 GMT
uh, I provided my source..... That's not really a valid source since that could literally be anybody who wrote that. I could go on that website and in five minutes have another ending spoiler that is completely the opposite of that and be just as valid. I'm waiting for a new spoiler.
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Post by Vall on Feb 9, 2017 23:04:07 GMT
I would just like to add a friendly reminder that the OP is a known troll, has repeatedly said that Bioware sucks and that this game will be terrible, and appears to want to see ME: Andromeda fail. And has now managed to find a leak that he refuses to provide a source for, that just so happens to contain a bunch of stuff most ME fans would hate to see. I suspect a ruse. Points for creativity though? It would be hypocritical of me to dismiss it right away after promoting wait and see, give it a fair chance without prejudice approach in other threads
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on Feb 9, 2017 23:05:49 GMT
If any of this is even remotely near any field of legit then I am going to need one hell of a investment in salt. It would be ME3 debacle all over again. Would bioware really commit more Seppuku? Hmmm..... It's not nearly as stupid as ME3's ending. Heck, depending on how they execute, it may be passable.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 9, 2017 23:06:09 GMT
uh, I provided my source..... That's not really a valid source since that could literally be anybody who wrote that. I could go on that website and in five minutes have another ending spoiler that is completely the opposite of that and be just as valid. >because leakers say who they are So what's a better source then? Shinobi? Or some anonymous person on reddit? /v/ has a history of random people leaking plot details of games which later came true.
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Post by armass81 on Feb 9, 2017 23:08:11 GMT
Sounds eerily plausible considering we have Mac Walters at the helm, but still not buying it fully.
If true the mere presence of Cerberus in this story, still, is an automatical one point off the game review score from me. And that relay thats supposed to send the eezo back to milky way? It follows then that the guy hasnt learned anything and continues to spew this shit to us.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 9, 2017 23:08:14 GMT
That's not really a valid source since that could literally be anybody who wrote that. I could go on that website and in five minutes have another ending spoiler that is completely the opposite of that and be just as valid. I'm waiting for a new spoiler. OP in /v/ thread fecked off. That's all we get if it's true.
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Post by Reznore on Feb 9, 2017 23:08:19 GMT
Sometimes we get good spoilers from 4chan but... The game is not gone gold yet , I believe. No copy has been send to the press either. No demo . So the leak would have to come from a (ex) Bioware employee. I'm not saying it's impossible but that would be a lot of details for something like this. So I'm thinking : Nope !
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 23:08:24 GMT
That's not really a valid source since that could literally be anybody who wrote that. I could go on that website and in five minutes have another ending spoiler that is completely the opposite of that and be just as valid. >because leakers say who they are So what's a better source then? Shinobi? Or some anonymous person on reddit? /v/ has a history of random people leaking plot details of games which later came true. A better source is someone who has more than their word to back it up. If the leak had images of this for example, then it would be a valid source.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 23:08:46 GMT
It's not nearly as stupid as ME3's ending. Heck, depending on how they execute, it may be passable. Yeah, I really don't see how it's similar, even. A lot of it sounds pretty good to me as well, especially the Kett's eezo religion bit -- one reason I kind of want this to be fake, is because I don't want it to have been spoiled so early.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 9, 2017 23:09:37 GMT
That's not really a valid source since that could literally be anybody who wrote that. I could go on that website and in five minutes have another ending spoiler that is completely the opposite of that and be just as valid. >because leakers say who they are So what's a better source then? Shinobi? Or some anonymous person on reddit? /v/ has a history of random people leaking plot details of games which later came true. Shinobi has a history of being somewhat accurate, and I do not think he has ever posted anything quite so...contradictoria?
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