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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 23:42:04 GMT
I also remember reading somewhere the devs said we may not play as our Ryder in the next MEA but to save our files because they will possibly show up. So I wonder if they might go the DA route and we play as someone new and meet our Ryder through our new journey. They already said MEA is not a trilogy. I think that is the lot more easiest thing to go through to do from a gameplay perspective. I think so too, so if MEA2 happens, we'll be a new protagonist, but there's a chance we will see our Ryder if we import our saves. That can easily change between now and the next game, but people really hoped to have Ryder still be around for future games and they did not say it was impossible.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 9, 2017 23:42:17 GMT
I doubt this is real. Check that, I HOPE it's not true. Because even if eezo is a valued power source, traveling for 600 years, building a "proto-relay" just for a mining expedition is fekking stupid. You're sinking a fortune into an expedition that won't see a return (if there is one) for centuries, when mining it in this galaxy works just fine. Yes but the giant eezo celestial body is a big guy and might have more eezo than anything the council races harvested or will harvest eezo in the Milky Way. Worth the effort if Alec is frightened at the ramifications of the council getting their hands on it.
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 9, 2017 23:42:30 GMT
I am averting my eyes as I post this. To anyone who wants to read dutch's post, whether the info is true or not, please do not start talking about any of it outside of this thread. The last thing I need is to be innocently perusing the forum and have a bomb dropped in my face. Yikes. I may have to go dark sooner than expected. It's obviously fake, so I wouldn't concern myself with it at all if I were you.
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Post by Muddy Boots on Feb 9, 2017 23:43:23 GMT
Still doesn't sound legit. I doubt they'd take away your character. Just doesn't sound right. Bioware is dumb enough to do anything at this point. Besides they actually might not even have a sequel if sales are low and if they do who's to say they just won't bring your hero back like they did with Shepard? I think they learned from ME3. They are willing to take risks, but not willing to take away player choice to that extreme any more.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 9, 2017 23:43:25 GMT
The second game having a potential for on-rails gender, is the obvious fail. As LadyConsular noted, that is not how BW does it.... It is not how anyone does it, and the assumption that you wouldn't use an imported save in a sequel if it was possible, is just bizarre really.
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Post by LordGunSmith90 on Feb 9, 2017 23:54:55 GMT
I doubt this leak for several reasons.
1. It makes no mention of the fate of the Archon and he's the game's main antagonist. Unless he's dealt with before dad Ryder goes crazy I'd except any ending leak to mention what happens to him.
2. Bioware stated dad Ryder would not be an antagonist and this ending basically makes him one.
3. I highly doubt Bioware would leave the question if Cora is TIM's daughter up in the air.
4. Unless they went the DA route with new protagonists in every Mass Effect game, this ending would take away gender choice.
5. I think this is suppose to be something "special" about the Ryder family which is why the Archon is interested in them, that's not mentioned at all.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 9, 2017 23:54:56 GMT
Sooooo you are telling me this a forced protagonist kill ending?
Ok then, at this point if any more proof of this surfaces before launch ny preorder gets cancelled.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 23:55:47 GMT
Hey Dutch!
Good to see you.
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Post by Muddy Boots on Feb 9, 2017 23:58:17 GMT
I would just like to add a friendly reminder that the OP is a known troll, has repeatedly said that Bioware sucks and that this game will be terrible, and appears to want to see ME: Andromeda fail. And has now managed to find a leak that he refuses to provide a source for, that just so happens to contain a bunch of stuff most ME fans would hate to see. I suspect a ruse. Points for creativity though? Yes, I'm starting to see this. Too many holes, though some of the theory could be plausible. But a lot of it comes from bits and pieces of other theories floating around out there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 0:01:25 GMT
I would just like to add a friendly reminder that the OP is a known troll, has repeatedly said that Bioware sucks and that this game will be terrible, and appears to want to see ME: Andromeda fail. And has now managed to find a leak that he refuses to provide a source for, that just so happens to contain a bunch of stuff most ME fans would hate to see. I suspect a ruse. Points for creativity though? Yes, I'm starting to see this. Too many holes, though some of the theory could be plausible. But a lot of it comes from bits and pieces of other theories floating around out there. Exactly. Some of it makes sense, the rest seems to be filler added based on random rumors. We won't play Ryder in MEA2 so killing them off fits. Dad is the bad guy, which we know he's not, but older leaks hinted he was. More filler to add. Making a choice that affects relations with the Milky Way and Andromeda? I find that believable. Choosing to side or not with Cerberus? WTF are they even doing here?? It's way too many plot holes, but at the same time some of it might be true.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 10, 2017 0:03:05 GMT
There are parts that directly contradicted what they said, and even if they could've lied about some, it'd make zero sense to force The pc to die AND then say you can play with the other twin. But at least I got prepared for any case.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 10, 2017 0:05:12 GMT
There were no leaks on Alec being the bad guy. Only hypothesis based on a some shots in the game and the fact that character wasn't our PC.
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Post by Muddy Boots on Feb 10, 2017 0:06:15 GMT
Yes, I'm starting to see this. Too many holes, though some of the theory could be plausible. But a lot of it comes from bits and pieces of other theories floating around out there. Exactly. Some of it makes sense, the rest seems to be filler added based on random rumors. We won't play Ryder in MEA2 so killing them off fits. Dad is the bad guy, which we know he's not, but older leaks hinted he was. More filler to add. Making a choice that affects relations with the Milky Way and Andromeda? I find that believable. Choosing to side or not with Cerberus? WTF are they even doing here?? It's way too many plot holes, but at the same time some of it might be true. They've said they don't know if Ryder will be in MEA2 or not yet, so we don't know if that will be an option or not. Still, I think they know better to kill off our protagonists without any choice about it. But I agree. Some of it could work. But probably not in the way the OP says.
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Post by fialka on Feb 10, 2017 0:06:22 GMT
I would just like to add a friendly reminder that the OP is a known troll, has repeatedly said that Bioware sucks and that this game will be terrible, and appears to want to see ME: Andromeda fail. And has now managed to find a leak that he refuses to provide a source for, that just so happens to contain a bunch of stuff most ME fans would hate to see. I suspect a ruse. Points for creativity though? Yes, I'm starting to see this. Too many holes, though some of the theory could be plausible. But a lot of it comes from bits and pieces of other theories floating around out trhere. Exactly, lots of holes, as people have pointed out often throughout this thread. And I checked out his so-called "source" and it's a forum post by someone who neither provided a source for their info or answered any of the follow up questions there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 0:07:07 GMT
There were no leaks on Alec being the bad guy. Only hypothesis based on a some shots in the game and the fact that character wasn't our PC. Yep and a few places claimed it was a legit leak based on a good sounding hypothesis, that's why I suspect this person tried to gather the "leaks" they found and wrote up their own ending. That's why I think some things might be true, others not. Exactly. Some of it makes sense, the rest seems to be filler added based on random rumors. We won't play Ryder in MEA2 so killing them off fits. Dad is the bad guy, which we know he's not, but older leaks hinted he was. More filler to add. Making a choice that affects relations with the Milky Way and Andromeda? I find that believable. Choosing to side or not with Cerberus? WTF are they even doing here?? It's way too many plot holes, but at the same time some of it might be true. They've said they don't know if Ryder will be in MEA2 or not yet, so we don't know if that will be an option or not. Still, I think they know better to kill off our protagonists without any choice about it. But I agree. Some of it could work. But probably not in the way the OP says. Yeah so if they want to kill Ryder, why say they are not sure? But I know someone did ask and they said it's possible to see them. I can't see them leaving that hanging if they know the truth. Maybe we can die but we can avoid it like DAO.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 10, 2017 0:08:11 GMT
Question.....why would Bioware force us into a specific gender by killing our hero off which will likely result in people just retconning it when they play the sequel if they want to play the gender they prefer?
Also....did they not say they learned their lesson with ME3's ending? Seriously? Another force suicide? Come the FUCK ON BIOWARE.
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Post by derrame on Feb 10, 2017 0:09:16 GMT
no god please no, this plot is too bad and disappointing, i hope the biowre people knows about this and say something
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 10, 2017 0:09:39 GMT
Question.....why would Bioware force us into a specific gender by killing our hero off which will likely result in people just retconning it when they play the sequel if they want to play the gender they prefer? Also....did they not say they learned their lesson with ME3's ending? Seriously? Another force suicide? Come the FUCK ON BIOWARE. You're assuming the 'leak' is true. While I agree on being cautious, it doesn't really hold much credit so far.
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Post by llandwynwyn on Feb 10, 2017 0:10:07 GMT
Written by some anonymous in /v/. Might be real, might be fake. You never know. More info: Well, people have leaked on /v/ for DAI, so maybe is true. I don't like the death of the sibling, though. Fuck this shit.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 10, 2017 0:15:04 GMT
Question.....why would Bioware force us into a specific gender by killing our hero off which will likely result in people just retconning it when they play the sequel if they want to play the gender they prefer? Also....did they not say they learned their lesson with ME3's ending? Seriously? Another force suicide? Come the FUCK ON BIOWARE. You're assuming the 'leak' is true. While I agree on being cautious, it doesn't really hold much credit so far. dude...you are talking about the guys who thought that "awesome button" was a great idea and that gave us the ME3 ending in all its glory.....and thought we did not like it because we were too dumb to understand it. I DESPERATELY want this game to be good and bring ne back to the pre ME3 days when ME was my favorite series ever but honestly I keep remembering that Bioware is...well...Bioware and they have shown me they can make insanely dumb decisions.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 10, 2017 0:16:46 GMT
You're assuming the 'leak' is true. While I agree on being cautious, it doesn't really hold much credit so far. dude...you are talking about the guys who thought that "awesome button" was a great idea and that gave us the ME3 ending in all its glory.....and thought we did not like it because we were too dumb to understand it. I DESPERATELY want this game to be good and bring ne back to the pre ME3 days when ME was my favorite series ever but honestly I keep remembering that Bioware is...well...Bioware and they have shown me they can make insanely dumb decisions. Sorry, I don't see how they would make the character die and play postgame with the opposite twin. Not to mention the Vaults are likely more central to the game then the leak suggests.
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Post by SofNascimento on Feb 10, 2017 0:19:11 GMT
I believe four things make me quite sure it's fake:
i) Setting up the other Ryder as the new protagonist. I don't think Bioware would do that.
ii) Ryder dying. Everything points to Andromeda having a very light tone (squadmates can't die for example). I predict the ending will be a very traditional happy ending.
iii) I quite like it.
iv) It's a RUMOR from the INTERNET!
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 10, 2017 0:20:11 GMT
I believe four things make me quite sure it's fake: i) Setting up the other Ryder as the new protagonist. I don't think Bioware would do that. ii) Ryder dying. Everything points to Andromeda having a very light tone (squadmates can't die for example). I predict the ending will be a very traditional happy ending. iii) I quite like it. iv) It's a RUMOR from the INTERNET! If you like it because it makes the AI have another reason for the trip other then exploration, I think that will be in the game either way.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 10, 2017 0:20:17 GMT
dude...you are talking about the guys who thought that "awesome button" was a great idea and that gave us the ME3 ending in all its glory.....and thought we did not like it because we were too dumb to understand it. I DESPERATELY want this game to be good and bring ne back to the pre ME3 days when ME was my favorite series ever but honestly I keep remembering that Bioware is...well...Bioware and they have shown me they can make insanely dumb decisions. Sorry, I don't see how they would make the character die and play postgame with the opposite twin. Not to mention the Vaults are likely more central to the game then the leak suggests. The vaults connect to the celestial body made of eezo. The remnants created it using their numerous vaults across the cluster as a source of infinite eezo. The remnant are probably not that big in the grand scheme of things like the protheans.
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