Things you wish would've happened in the trilogy

Talking about indoctrination, I'm wondering if maybe one of our squad mates should have been indoctrinated. It could have been an interesting scenario for one of them to betray Shepard, since I think pretty much every squad mate that lives to the end of the trilogy stays ultra loyal and thinking Shepard is the coolest person around. I guess the risk in doing this is having it come off really cheesy though if it isn't pulled off well.

That would have been interesting. And saving the Virmire survivor could be similar to Tuchanka or Rannoch where some outcomes are only possible if you did certain things in the previous games. Otherwise you would have to kill them or be unable to prevent them from killing someone else important.

The problem with that would be Samantha Traynor. She was on Horizon visiting her family when the collectors showed up. If A/K were to be indoctrinated, Sam would be as well. Of course the excuse could be is she hid in a building without being stung by the seeker swarm

It seems Bioware at one point wanted to have Shepard indoctrinated. If that's the case, I would say Garrus would be as well. He's the only character, squadmate anyways, that has or can be on most of the missions with Shepard. Take away the beginning of each game and the Arrival dc, which is optional, he's been with Shepard the rest of the time. It would be interesting if he was indoctrinated. Giving the Primarch bad advice in ME3. 

If there's a character to be indoctrinated, it would be Liara. In the broker dlc, she makes no effort to inform anyone that Shepard's body is in Cerberus hands. Has Shepard's armor on display like its a prize/trophy. And has Shepard's dna plaster all over her apartment. That could be explained by having serious head problems, which she has, and that the dlc is optional.

So I will present Mars. When seeing her on Mars, she says, "I've discovered plans for a device, one that could wipeout the reapers". The problem with that is why didn't she send a copy to Hackett? And for her to say the device could wipeout the reapers, she would have studied the plans to know that and would have known that Thessia has the answer as to what the catalyst is? So she never found the plans? Or did she?

I will explain. She did study the plans. When she saw that Thessia would have the answer to what the catalyst is, she called the asari councilor to inform her. The councilor told Liara to keep that knowledge to herself. Come up with some excuse that will prevent anyone knowing the truth. So Liara plays dumb and that she's doing it for her species. Liara would never betray her species. I would also include the asari councilor is indoctrinated as well. She refused to send a representative to the summit.  I would even add that Liara informed the councilor that Shepard was going to cure the genophage to get the krogan to help. The councilor convinces Liara that can't happen. Liara understands. She's doing it for her species. She gets in contact with a few of her agents to get to the shroud ahead of Shepard to sabotage the cure.

Actually, that would have been a better reason for the continued tension between Shepard and the VS.  Only problem is, that would negate them as a LI so there'd have to be a cure of sorts.

I think Bioware typically give choices more weight than Telltale. Telltale give the illusion of choice, but it never holds up on a 2nd play.

your love interest should be the indoctrinated companion

I guess Steve and Sam have nothing to worry about since both are not squadmates. 

Reapers are assholes. it is the most asshole thing to do to try to Indoctrinated a Love Interest. and Able to play on the Mistakes of Shepard to indoctrinate all of his squad mates and the entire crew. for lolz, Javik, Robo-Edi and Legion get indoctrinated together and throw Shepard out of the airlock.


Just say, Epic Fail Shepard will be an Epic Fail under my hands while playing up the Lovecraftian Horror of the Reapers.

I'm sure this has already been said but I thought Cerberus literally raising Shepard from the dead was silly. There are other reasons Shepard could have been working for Cerberus in ME2. With the Council's refusal to take the reaper threat seriously, Shepard might have felt that they had to ally with the one group who does believe them so they can finally get some work done.

On the first playthrough WD did feel like your choices had some bearing. But on a second with different choices, you realise how little they change things. Mass Effect definitely makes a better case of your choices mattering. Choices such as Tali's loyalty mission and the Heretic station can impact whether peace is possible, for instance.

I am sure that bioware thought it was for the best for that moment due to the changes within the Game Mechanics. With More Pro Human and/or Anti Reaper Shepards would join Cerberus for both survival of Humans and stop the Reapers. Also More Practical Anti Reaper Shepards would have good relationships with Cerberus and many more willing factions to fight the Reapers.



For Nightmare fuel, Reaper Berserkers Variations that use Yargh with their abilities( ranging from Siege Pulse to Missiles and A unique Berserker Rage that is more durable and stronger than Krogans Berserker Rage) and a Krogan Reaper Berserker with a potential flamethrower and Wraith.


Also More messed Nightmare fuel inducing Biotic and Tech Ablilities that were developed by the Reapers and used by Reaper Husks.

Also Flesh eating Reaper weapon that a Reaper Husk can use against the player.