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Post by revydutch on Apr 6, 2017 20:46:03 GMT
So, uh,
The update kinda fixed the kissing animation during Suvi's romance scene.
Discuss.
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Post by melisan on Apr 7, 2017 0:59:30 GMT
Meh.
Sam Traynor >>>>>> Kelly Chambers >>>>> Suvi Anwar
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Post by revydutch on Apr 7, 2017 2:15:38 GMT
Meh. Sam Traynor >>>>>> Kelly Chambers >>>>> Suvi Anwar Great, [MOD EDIT] Anyways, here's a video of the updated romance scene. I was shook too:
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 7, 2017 2:21:02 GMT
I like how Suvi is taken by surprise by Sarah's kiss. You see her eyes widen and body stiffen for just a moment and then relax again as she smiles. Also the nuzzling and kissing Sarah's neck is really sweet.
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Post by melisan on Apr 7, 2017 3:09:24 GMT
Meh. Sam Traynor >>>>>> Kelly Chambers >>>>> Suvi Anwar Great, [MOD EDIT] Anyways, here's a video of the updated romance scene. I was shook too: Suvi is the worst case of fan appeasement to meet all needs, culminating into a vague oxymoron in human form. She claims to be a scientist, but her functional role on the Tempest is someone who speaks out "gaseous anomalies" (which itself is too much of a scifi trope). This is a waste of opportunity to place someone with something truly interesting. And also a great contrast to Doctor Lexi, who actually prods the crew around to do her job, asks Ryder to check for oddities groundside, doesn't offer up a relationship. I apologize if I've crashed in on a Shrine for Suvi, but I thought this was a discussion board. And I'm surprised that Considering the great improvement from the Ship as a Talking head Charles Pressly to Kelly Chambers to Sam Traynor, you end up with the most milquetoast version of them all.
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Post by revydutch on Apr 7, 2017 4:03:12 GMT
I like how Suvi is taken by surprise by Sarah's kiss. You see her eyes widen and body stiffen for just a moment and then relax again as she smiles. Also the nuzzling and kissing Sarah's neck is really sweet. Yeah so anyways they totally 100% banged in the science lab. You don't kiss someone's neck without wanting more ya feel
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 7, 2017 4:22:15 GMT
I like how Suvi is taken by surprise by Sarah's kiss. You see her eyes widen and body stiffen for just a moment and then relax again as she smiles. Also the nuzzling and kissing Sarah's neck is really sweet. Yeah so anyways they totally 100% banged in the science lab. You don't kiss someone's neck without wanting more ya feel You're free to think that if you want. That's the wonder of ambiguity. I have to disagree on your correlation though since I know people who did or do that with that being where it stopped.
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Post by revydutch on Apr 7, 2017 10:07:08 GMT
Yeah so anyways they totally 100% banged in the science lab. You don't kiss someone's neck without wanting more ya feel You're free to think that if you want. That's the wonder of ambiguity. I have to disagree on your correlation though since I know people who did or do that with that being where it stopped. Right. So anyways because I'm actually a lesbian unlike this guy I can tell y'all Suvi and Ryder totally had the best time in that lab because God forbid lesbians, you know, have sexual relationships or anything. How dare us. And how dare we claim something written for us without needing your straight dude input on it. Seriously. It's getting tiring. Suvi wasn't written for you. Please stop with the high and mighty attitude and stop hiding your fetisization of us behind your "claiming" of their "non-sexual" relationship.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 7, 2017 10:15:30 GMT
You're free to think that if you want. That's the wonder of ambiguity. I have to disagree on your correlation though since I know people who did or do that with that being where it stopped. Right. So anyways because I'm actually a lesbian unlike this guy I can tell y'all Suvi and Ryder totally had the best time in that lab because God forbid lesbians, you know, have sexual relationships or anything. How dare us. And how dare we claim something written for us without needing your straight dude input on it. Seriously. It's getting tiring. Suvi wasn't written for you. Please stop with the high and mighty attitude and stop hiding your fetisization of us behind your "claiming" of their "non-sexual" relationship. I'm not a straight dude, and I never said or did a single thing you are accusing me of. In fact I've fully supported you seeing them having sex. The only person with attitude and trying to belittle others is you. And as a matter of fact, yes she was. Suvi like all characters was written for all the fans to enjoy. Not to mention that Bioware devs themselves talked about how she was written to be ambiguous so both those who want a sexual romance with her and those who want a nonsexual romance with her can both have what they want.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 7, 2017 11:51:04 GMT
And on that note, I think this particular exchange is done. Back to the topic of Suvi Anwar please, not each other...
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Post by miso9 on Apr 7, 2017 12:49:40 GMT
Right. So anyways because I'm actually a lesbian unlike this guy I can tell y'all Suvi and Ryder totally had the best time in that lab because God forbid lesbians, you know, have sexual relationships or anything. How dare us. And how dare we claim something written for us without needing your straight dude input on it. Seriously. It's getting tiring. Suvi wasn't written for you. Please stop with the high and mighty attitude and stop hiding your fetisization of us behind your "claiming" of their "non-sexual" relationship. Not to mention that Bioware devs themselves talked about how she was written to be ambiguous so both those who want a sexual romance with her and those who want a nonsexual romance with her can both have what they want. Where? Last time I checked the official version is that she was always written as a lesbian, i.e. a woman who's sexually attracted to women and who has sexual desires for other women.
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Post by Bendayd on Apr 7, 2017 12:59:48 GMT
Not to mention that Bioware devs themselves talked about how she was written to be ambiguous so both those who want a sexual romance with her and those who want a nonsexual romance with her can both have what they want. Where? Last time I checked the official version is that she was always written as a lesbian, i.e. a woman who's sexually attracted to women and who has sexual desires for other women. He's talking about her last romance scene, and the ambiguosity of whether they had sex or not (with Sara, just saying)....
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 7, 2017 13:40:02 GMT
General: on the last few pages. Can we please ease back on throwing passive/aggression around the thread. This is a thread for discussing Suvi Anwar, not a soapbox for insulting other posters for their gender/political views. Similarly, if folk have expressed their opinions, they do not need to repeatedly do so - that starts to verge on spam. Thank you.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 7, 2017 20:40:28 GMT
I think this thread is in need of some more Suvi love!
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 7, 2017 20:57:54 GMT
So, thread regulars and all the rest, what ways would you suggest to give Suvi more plot relevance, interesting content, etc? I would love to see her be put in a position where she has some inner conflict. For example, maybe she's put into a situation where, no matter what course of action she takes, it's unethical? To give her some meaty character exploration of what she'd do in a difficult situation. Or maybe she's in a situation where an experiment or analysis is politically inconvenient for the Initiative leadership, and she has to betray Ryder to get that information out since Ryder has no choice but to suppress it?
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Post by Mihura on Apr 7, 2017 21:41:15 GMT
So, thread regulars and all the rest, what ways would you suggest to give Suvi more plot relevance, interesting content, etc? I would love to see her be put in a position where she has some inner conflict. For example, maybe she's put into a situation where, no matter what course of action she takes, it's unethical? To give her some meaty character exploration of what she'd do in a difficult situation. Or maybe she's in a situation where an experiment or analysis is politically inconvenient for the Initiative leadership, and she has to betray Ryder to get that information out since Ryder has no choice but to suppress it?That sounds kinda like Liara, which is cool. Suvi says she is learning how to shoot a gun too so we never know where that could go. maybe having a major role helping find the other ark or resolving the murder mystery. I think overall Suvi needed more involvement in the story, the way for example Josephine/Leliana/Cullen do it. Maybe helping the outposts when Ryder was out in the field and things like that. I think the major problem with the NPCs in this game is that, they sometimes do not even seem to be in there. It does not help that their design is not exclusive or faces. Overall I think Lexi (for obvious reasons) is the only NPC that pings more in my radar.
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Post by Tarkus on Apr 7, 2017 21:45:50 GMT
So, thread regulars and all the rest, what ways would you suggest to give Suvi more plot relevance, interesting content, etc? I would love to see her be put in a position where she has some inner conflict. For example, maybe she's put into a situation where, no matter what course of action she takes, it's unethical? To give her some meaty character exploration of what she'd do in a difficult situation. Or maybe she's in a situation where an experiment or analysis is politically inconvenient for the Initiative leadership, and she has to betray Ryder to get that information out since Ryder has no choice but to suppress it? Suvi doesn't strike me as the sort of person to do something that would be unethical, but the second option sounds interesting (not sure how Ryder would be put into a no choice situation, or if Suvi would betray Ryder). Otherwise, I'd just want more conversations between Ryder and Suvi because her and the other Tempest Crewmembers got so little in comparison to the squaddies and did not feel at all comparable to the Inquisition Advisors. For fun I'd suggest that postgame DLC would have Ryder and Suvi discussing what kind of dog they'll adopt (options being Earth breeds, Varren, or an Adhi/Challyrion).
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 7, 2017 21:49:36 GMT
So, thread regulars and all the rest, what ways would you suggest to give Suvi more plot relevance, interesting content, etc? I would love to see her be put in a position where she has some inner conflict. For example, maybe she's put into a situation where, no matter what course of action she takes, it's unethical? To give her some meaty character exploration of what she'd do in a difficult situation. Or maybe she's in a situation where an experiment or analysis is politically inconvenient for the Initiative leadership, and she has to betray Ryder to get that information out since Ryder has no choice but to suppress it? Suvi doesn't strike me as the sort of person to do something that would be unethical, but the second option sounds interesting (not sure how Ryder would be put into a no choice situation, or if Suvi would betray Ryder). Otherwise, I'd just want more conversations between Ryder and Suvi because her and the other Tempest Crewmembers got so little in comparison to the squaddies and did not feel at all comparable to the Inquisition Advisors. For fun I'd suggest that postgame DLC would have Ryder and Suvi discussing what kind of dog they'll adopt (options being Earth breeds, Varren, or an Adhi/Challyrion). I think it'd be pretty interesting if she was put into a situation where the only options are both unethical and she has to choose what "seems" more right, in her opinion. Then again, you gotta keep in mind I'm always more interested in morally ambiguous characters, since they have a lot more interesting character progression and tend to have a stronger relationship with the narrative in general. As much as I like her getting a dog, I want something more interesting than that. Something with a story to it that explores her character.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 7, 2017 21:51:53 GMT
To give the non-squad crew the spotlight, I like the idea of Ryder and the squad being captured and it being up to the non-squad crew to get them out, sort of like the prison break in Dragon Age: Origins or how we play a mission as Joker in ME2 and our sibling in MEA. While they aren't skilled at combat, they use their other skills to get it done. For example Suvi could use her scientific knowledge, Lexi can use her biotics and medical knowledge, and Gil could use his engineering knowledge to get past the various obstacles.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 7, 2017 21:59:54 GMT
To give the non-squad crew the spotlight, I like the idea of Ryder and the squad being captured and it being up to the non-squad crew to get them out, sort of like the prison break in Dragon Age: Origins or how we play a mission as Joker in ME2 and our sibling in MEA. While they aren't skilled at combat, they use their other skills to get it done. For example Suvi could use her scientific knowledge, Lexi can use her biotics and medical knowledge, and Gil could use his engineering knowledge to get past the various obstacles. Definitely, and it's also a good opportunity for some funny commentary from the other squadmates. Maybe if Vetra's the one to save Sara, there's a comment from Peebee that Vetra's bossier than usual. Or if Suvi's saving her, Dr. Lexi comments that Suvi's blood pressure is up despite usually being in the best of health. Hell, it's also a good opportunity for some sadder, more heartfelt dialogue, too. In general, Gil and Suvi really need more content, especially content that isn't just romance-related but plot-related.
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Post by Crim on Apr 7, 2017 22:50:40 GMT
Finally, I've finished the game. Ending was kinda, eh. Leaves the door open for this team again tho, wouldn't be the last we see of Ryder and crew, hopefully. Anyway, I lol'd at this email...
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Post by Mihura on Apr 7, 2017 23:02:06 GMT
Finally, I've finished the game. Ending was kinda, eh. Leaves the door open for this team again tho, wouldn't be the last we see of Ryder and crew, hopefully. Anyway, I lol'd at this email... Idk I have the urge to make a Jill joke... I am sorry.
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Post by Crim on Apr 8, 2017 1:18:51 GMT
Finally, I've finished the game. Ending was kinda, eh. Leaves the door open for this team again tho, wouldn't be the last we see of Ryder and crew, hopefully. Anyway, I lol'd at this email... *s Idk I have the urge to make a Jill joke... I am sorry. Do it. Those Jill turkey baster memes are one of the best things to have happened to BSN in quite sometime. Bless those boys.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 8, 2017 1:32:28 GMT
Let Suvi duel Jill to win the position of Gil's Best Friend.
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Post by Crim on Apr 8, 2017 1:34:59 GMT
Let Suvi duel Jill to win the position of Gil's Best Friend. Someone has to stop her, sweet Gil. My Sara tried to talk some sense into him about his baby with Jill plan. Run man, don't do it!
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