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Post by Crim on Apr 18, 2017 10:27:58 GMT
Rofl, Jesus Christ, don't some people see how they come off on posts like this? Sorry for existing bro. Oh for... Existing is just fine. Highlighting parts of my post to take them out of context isn't. "She [Suvi] doesn't have a sense of humor and since that's a dealbreaker [ for me] she's not a great loss." ->Meaning Suvi is cute and all but she's not someone who's worth going to war waving #makesuvibi flags. "I'm glad that it wasn't Vetra who got sacrificed on the altar of representation." Sorry if you were offended by the wording, but it remains true. If it was a choice between Vetra and Suvi I'm glad that Vetra remained the both option. At one point, gameplay-wise Suvi was bi too - the prima guide is proof of that (likely a fall-January build). We can only guess the bts details of this. Disrespecting SC's vision for the character, conscious harem building for Scott, honest mistake by some animators, whatever. The fact remains that Suvi's exclusive scenes weren't made separately just for her rather it was the result of cutting Scott from shared scenes. I think it would have been preferable (replying to disgustednoise here too) to everyone if Suvi had her own garden scene (lab) with friendship or lock option and an actual sex scene after that. The Cora banging is a late? addition too, painfully obvious that it was made by a different animator/team. Here's hoping that in a citadel type dlc or in the sequel the now neglected romances get, if not an equal like the main 3, but a better treatment. Sacrificed on the altar of rep, lol, FFS, that wording is not fine nor true. Suvi is underwhelming due to the fact that Bioware didn't give as much attention nor resources to the crewmates as they did the squadmates. The gulf in the difference is staggering, they're not even on the level of DAI advisors, all their big talk in the pre release days was just that talk. And I'd be fine if Vetra was lol sacrificed to us, more than fine.
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Post by Serza on Apr 18, 2017 10:42:45 GMT
"Doesn't have a sense of humor"?
Someone needs to stop being salty and have some fun at their own expense.
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Post by Crim on Apr 18, 2017 10:46:36 GMT
Anyway, new DLC with some added crewmate scenes would be very much welcome. And I still want to shield Gil from Jill, I need to renegade punch her.
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Post by Crim on Apr 18, 2017 10:49:59 GMT
"Doesn't have a sense of humor"? Someone needs to stop being salty and have some fun at their own expense. I didn't say she lacks humour. ???
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Post by Serza on Apr 18, 2017 11:09:22 GMT
"Doesn't have a sense of humor"? Someone needs to stop being salty and have some fun at their own expense. I didn't say she lacks humour. ??? Eh, the post you quoted did, in a quote or something. Didn't quote anyone because I didn't know where it is, and I'm party blind when lazy.
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Post by alessandra on Apr 18, 2017 12:18:05 GMT
Well, it seems that at least on Xbox Sara is rather invisible, not only in the end of movie night but also in the family dinner memory. Well actually she's mute also. come on BioWare.
Edit: I was reading about how detailed Cora's scene was so I made myself watch it and what a mistake. BioWare is the best I've seen at inclusion but equality is a whole different thing, it doesn't exist.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 18, 2017 16:09:48 GMT
"Doesn't have a sense of humor"? Someone needs to stop being salty and have some fun at their own expense. Ironically, her lack of humor is actually pretty humorous. I mean, the first scene is her missing the point when the protag reacts to how much she wrote in her analyses.
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Post by Serza on Apr 18, 2017 16:40:04 GMT
"Doesn't have a sense of humor"? Someone needs to stop being salty and have some fun at their own expense. Ironically, her lack of humor is actually pretty humorous. I mean, the first scene is her missing the point when the protag reacts to how much she wrote in her analyses. Yeah. She's oblivious and that makes her cute. I mean, the word hardly goes off my tongue, but it's a fact, which is about the only reason I even say it. I find it funny that over 500 pages on "How do Krogan mate?" (nice Padok Wiks reference now that I think about it, seriously, someone at BioWare is a Krogan fetishist) are completely fine, but sixty pages from Suvi on Heleus soil samples are blocked by antispam. I mean, which one of the two will Pathfinder need? Best knowledge of Krogan mating, or what the soil in Heleus is like? I say soil knowledge is important. Unlike Lexi, Suvi actually gives us an important thing and definitely something worth reading and, to an extent, memorizing! If that doesn't make her the Perfect Woman, NOTHING DOES.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 18, 2017 16:46:16 GMT
Ironically, her lack of humor is actually pretty humorous. I mean, the first scene is her missing the point when the protag reacts to how much she wrote in her analyses. Yeah. She's oblivious and that makes her cute. I mean, the word hardly goes off my tongue, but it's a fact, which is about the only reason I even say it. I find it funny that over 500 pages on "How do Krogan mate?" (nice Padok Wiks reference now that I think about it, seriously, someone at BioWare is a Krogan fetishist) are completely fine, but sixty pages from Suvi on Heleus soil samples are blocked by antispam. I mean, which one of the two will Pathfinder need? Best knowledge of Krogan mating, or what the soil in Heleus is like? I say soil knowledge is important. Unlike Lexi, Suvi actually gives us an important thing and definitely something worth reading and, to an extent, memorizing! If that doesn't make her the Perfect Woman, NOTHING DOES. Just wait, in the next game there will be a krogan as a romance option. Then you'll be thankful for Lexi's dissertation. That would actually be cool if Lexi brought that up if you romance a krogan.
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Post by Serza on Apr 18, 2017 18:11:18 GMT
Yeah. She's oblivious and that makes her cute. I mean, the word hardly goes off my tongue, but it's a fact, which is about the only reason I even say it. I find it funny that over 500 pages on "How do Krogan mate?" (nice Padok Wiks reference now that I think about it, seriously, someone at BioWare is a Krogan fetishist) are completely fine, but sixty pages from Suvi on Heleus soil samples are blocked by antispam. I mean, which one of the two will Pathfinder need? Best knowledge of Krogan mating, or what the soil in Heleus is like? I say soil knowledge is important. Unlike Lexi, Suvi actually gives us an important thing and definitely something worth reading and, to an extent, memorizing! If that doesn't make her the Perfect Woman, NOTHING DOES. Just wait, in the next game there will be a krogan as a romance option. Then you'll be thankful for Lexi's dissertation. That would actually be cool if Lexi brought that up if you romance a krogan. No, thank you. Either I'll continue Liam's romance or Suvi's. Probably Liam's, every single one of my canon characters except Warden are women who swing the same way, if yo ucatch my drift. I wanted a change.
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Post by davkar on Apr 18, 2017 18:58:39 GMT
Oh for... Existing is just fine. Highlighting parts of my post to take them out of context isn't. "She [Suvi] doesn't have a sense of humor and since that's a dealbreaker [ for me] she's not a great loss." ->Meaning Suvi is cute and all but she's not someone who's worth going to war waving #makesuvibi flags. "I'm glad that it wasn't Vetra who got sacrificed on the altar of representation." Sorry if you were offended by the wording, but it remains true. If it was a choice between Vetra and Suvi I'm glad that Vetra remained the both option. At one point, gameplay-wise Suvi was bi too - the prima guide is proof of that (likely a fall-January build). We can only guess the bts details of this. Disrespecting SC's vision for the character, conscious harem building for Scott, honest mistake by some animators, whatever. The fact remains that Suvi's exclusive scenes weren't made separately just for her rather it was the result of cutting Scott from shared scenes. I think it would have been preferable (replying to disgustednoise here too) to everyone if Suvi had her own garden scene (lab) with friendship or lock option and an actual sex scene after that. The Cora banging is a late? addition too, painfully obvious that it was made by a different animator/team. Here's hoping that in a citadel type dlc or in the sequel the now neglected romances get, if not an equal like the main 3, but a better treatment. Sacrificed on the altar of rep, lol, FFS, that wording is not fine nor true. Suvi is underwhelming due to the fact that Bioware didn't give as much attention nor resources to the crewmates as they did the squadmates. The gulf in the difference is staggering, they're not even on the level of DAI advisors, all their big talk in the pre release days was just that talk. And I'd be fine if Vetra was lol sacrificed to us, more than fine. Try not to choke on your spite dear. I expected DAI advisors treatment for the crewmembers too so at least we can agree on that.
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Post by Crim on Apr 18, 2017 19:06:05 GMT
Sacrificed on the altar of rep, lol, FFS, that wording is not fine nor true. Suvi is underwhelming due to the fact that Bioware didn't give as much attention nor resources to the crewmates as they did the squadmates. The gulf in the difference is staggering, they're not even on the level of DAI advisors, all their big talk in the pre release days was just that talk. And I'd be fine if Vetra was lol sacrificed to us, more than fine. Try not to choke on your spite dear. I expected DAI advisors treatment for the crewmembers too so at least we can agree on that. Try not to suggest we are a burden, dear.
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Post by davkar on Apr 18, 2017 19:16:17 GMT
Try not to choke on your spite dear. I expected DAI advisors treatment for the crewmembers too so at least we can agree on that. Try not to suggest we are a burden, dear. I'm not suggesting nor saying you are so stop being paranoid. "I'd be fine if Vetra was lol sacrificed to us, more than fine." is just pure spite, let's not go there please.
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Post by Crim on Apr 18, 2017 19:37:11 GMT
Try not to suggest we are a burden, dear. I'm not suggesting nor saying you are so stop being paranoid. "I'd be fine if Vetra was lol sacrificed to us, more than fine." is just pure spite, let's not go there please. Sacrificed on the altar of rep was your words. If you don't see what is wrong with that sentence then I can't really help you or bother to continue this dialogue. And Vetra isn't gonna be changed, but having to play outside of ones comfort zone wouldn't kill some people here. Lord knows I've been doing it for years.
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Post by ross42899 on Apr 18, 2017 22:32:08 GMT
I love Suvi, but think she's lacking content/interaction options compared to other characters. I just hope we will get a DLC similar to the "Citadel DLC" where we can spend more time with our crew and get more interaction options.
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Post by Tarkus on Apr 18, 2017 22:39:30 GMT
I really wish that Suvi got what Cora has, an option between a sex scene or just to relax and stargaze.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 18, 2017 22:41:15 GMT
I really wish that Suvi got what Cora has, an option between a sex scene or just to relax and stargaze. What do you think Suvi's non-sex route scene would have been? Can't be stargazing since Cora already has that.
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Post by Tarkus on Apr 18, 2017 22:49:23 GMT
I really wish that Suvi got what Cora has, an option between a sex scene or just to relax and stargaze. What do you think Suvi's non-sex route scene would have been? Can't be stargazing since Cora already has that. Before the game came out, I definitely wanted it to be stargazing, but now...I don't know, maybe a picnic on Eos?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 18, 2017 22:53:55 GMT
What do you think Suvi's non-sex route scene would have been? Can't be stargazing since Cora already has that. Before the game came out, I definitely wanted it to be stargazing, but now...I don't know, maybe a picnic on Eos? Yeah before release I thought it would be stargazing too due to what we knew about her. Then again maybe it's for the best since stargazing is pretty much her job so not the best idea for off-time. A picnic would be adorable. In the romance thread we were talking about a DLC having a date scene with all of the LIs and that was pretty much what I suggested for Suvi, her and Sarah going out to dinner and her finally getting to try eating Heleus food(with possible mixed results leading to a swollen Suvi and Sarah getting lectured by Lexi. ).
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Post by disgustednoise on Apr 19, 2017 9:06:52 GMT
What do you think Suvi's non-sex route scene would have been? Can't be stargazing since Cora already has that. Before the game came out, I definitely wanted it to be stargazing, but now...I don't know, maybe a picnic on Eos? Hunting for geological specimens.
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Post by Serza on Apr 19, 2017 17:10:59 GMT
Gathering soil samples?
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Post by Iakus on Apr 19, 2017 19:45:36 GMT
Before the game came out, I definitely wanted it to be stargazing, but now...I don't know, maybe a picnic on Eos? Yeah before release I thought it would be stargazing too due to what we knew about her. Then again maybe it's for the best since stargazing is pretty much her job so not the best idea for off-time. A picnic would be adorable. In the romance thread we were talking about a DLC having a date scene with all of the LIs and that was pretty much what I suggested for Suvi, her and Sarah going out to dinner and her finally getting to try eating Heleus food(with possible mixed results leading to a swollen Suvi and Sarah getting lectured by Lexi. ). Can't go wrong with a dinner date. Well, maybe Suvi can
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Post by alessandra on Apr 20, 2017 16:14:52 GMT
I probably should post this in the Sara thread but I have my own reasons for not posting there.
So anyway just once in a BioWare game it would be nice to have the ability to actually speak to a character without being handicapped by the responses that don't fit the sexuality of my character. Mostly I'm speaking of the conversations with Gil, just once I'd like to be able to pick an option that I might actually say. Instead of always having two options that never fit.
And I must also say I'm getting really tired of having Liam and Jaal walking around naked. Damned SINJW always shoving hetero down my throat. Just had to say that just once in my life. Lol
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Post by Mihura on Apr 21, 2017 1:13:18 GMT
I probably should post this in the Sara thread but I have my own reasons for not posting there. So anyway just once in a BioWare game it would be nice to have the ability to actually speak to a character without being handicapped by the responses that don't fit the sexuality of my character. Mostly I'm speaking of the conversations with Gil, just once I'd like to be able to pick an option that I might actually say. Instead of always having two options that never fit. And I must also say I'm getting really tired of having Liam and Jaal walking around naked. Damned SINJW always shoving hetero down my throat. Just had to say that just once in my life. Lol And although I like Liam, he stays that way for a long time. I want to yell "LIAM KEEP YOUR SHIRT ON!". Well at least he wasnt butt naked like Jaal. Also for joke reference.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 21, 2017 16:40:17 GMT
I probably should post this in the Sara thread but I have my own reasons for not posting there. So anyway just once in a BioWare game it would be nice to have the ability to actually speak to a character without being handicapped by the responses that don't fit the sexuality of my character. Mostly I'm speaking of the conversations with Gil, just once I'd like to be able to pick an option that I might actually say. Instead of always having two options that never fit. And I must also say I'm getting really tired of having Liam and Jaal walking around naked. Damned SINJW always shoving hetero down my throat. Just had to say that just once in my life. Lol Hetero Justice Warriors: the writers/creators who say they're progressive but insist on assuming everything is hetero by default and defending making everything hetero. But yeah, I agree on the dialogue thing. Having only two dialogue options all the time is extremely limiting.
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