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Post by Sarayne on Mar 5, 2017 21:44:21 GMT
Gamespot character's deal with science articleAboard the Tempest--the ship that players will use to travel around Andromeda's Helius Cluster--I encountered one such person: Suvi. She's staring out into the the depths of space and admiring the view. To her, the distant stars and majestic planetary bodies are "a constant reminder of the divine intelligence behind all of creation." Like Thane, Suvi reconciles two parts of her that, to outsiders, seem contradictory: she's a woman of science, but also of faith. During our conversation she reveals science brings her closer to something greater than herself. She's lived her life having to justify these beliefs and needing to prove that her faith in the divine doesn't diminish her work as a scientist.I like this bolded part, I sense many a deep convo here. Neat. That makes me feel much better about her character now. My biggest fear is that she would stretch science to fit her religion. |
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Post by Mihura on Mar 5, 2017 21:54:07 GMT
Gamespot character's deal with science articleAboard the Tempest--the ship that players will use to travel around Andromeda's Helius Cluster--I encountered one such person: Suvi. She's staring out into the the depths of space and admiring the view. To her, the distant stars and majestic planetary bodies are "a constant reminder of the divine intelligence behind all of creation." Like Thane, Suvi reconciles two parts of her that, to outsiders, seem contradictory: she's a woman of science, but also of faith. During our conversation she reveals science brings her closer to something greater than herself. She's lived her life having to justify these beliefs and needing to prove that her faith in the divine doesn't diminish her work as a scientist.I like this bolded part, I sense many a deep convo here. Neat. If Suvi can accept different points of views I am all in, I sometimes RP religious characters so this is going to be interesting. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 5, 2017 22:37:34 GMT
Gamespot character's deal with science articleAboard the Tempest--the ship that players will use to travel around Andromeda's Helius Cluster--I encountered one such person: Suvi. She's staring out into the the depths of space and admiring the view. To her, the distant stars and majestic planetary bodies are "a constant reminder of the divine intelligence behind all of creation." Like Thane, Suvi reconciles two parts of her that, to outsiders, seem contradictory: she's a woman of science, but also of faith. During our conversation she reveals science brings her closer to something greater than herself. She's lived her life having to justify these beliefs and needing to prove that her faith in the divine doesn't diminish her work as a scientist.I like this bolded part, I sense many a deep convo here. Neat. I'm interested in seeing exactly where they take this. Perhaps, she's always had a curiosity about both religion and science, which might result in her studying one of the golden world's resources one day and asking Jaal about his people's religion(s) another day. As in, someone who loves science but recognizes that social things such as culture is also important. I guess we'll see if that's true or if they take another approach. After backreading, I'm really really glad we'll be seeing her before launch. I just hope Gil gets the same treatment. |
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Post by Crim on Mar 5, 2017 22:44:57 GMT
Summoning amoebaeFound a nice tidbit on Suvi's surname, "The female form of the Arabic name Anwar means "a collection of lights" according to trusty old google. I like that." |
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Post by Crim on Mar 5, 2017 22:54:44 GMT
Gamespot character's deal with science articleAboard the Tempest--the ship that players will use to travel around Andromeda's Helius Cluster--I encountered one such person: Suvi. She's staring out into the the depths of space and admiring the view. To her, the distant stars and majestic planetary bodies are "a constant reminder of the divine intelligence behind all of creation." Like Thane, Suvi reconciles two parts of her that, to outsiders, seem contradictory: she's a woman of science, but also of faith. During our conversation she reveals science brings her closer to something greater than herself. She's lived her life having to justify these beliefs and needing to prove that her faith in the divine doesn't diminish her work as a scientist.I like this bolded part, I sense many a deep convo here. Neat. I'm interested in seeing exactly where they take this. Perhaps, she's always had a curiosity about both religion and science, which might result in her studying one of the golden world's resources one day and asking Jaal about his people's religion(s) another day. As in, someone who loves science but recognizes that social things such as culture is also important. I guess we'll see if that's true or if they take another approach. After backreading, I'm really really glad we'll be seeing her before launch . I just hope Gil gets the same treatment. Yeah, srsly like. I sent out a tweet asking would it be possible we'll see him before launch. Just have to wait to see if I'll get any response. And yay you, getting a response to see Suvi.   |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 5, 2017 23:09:55 GMT
I'm interested in seeing exactly where they take this. Perhaps, she's always had a curiosity about both religion and science, which might result in her studying one of the golden world's resources one day and asking Jaal about his people's religion(s) another day. As in, someone who loves science but recognizes that social things such as culture is also important. I guess we'll see if that's true or if they take another approach. After backreading, I'm really really glad we'll be seeing her before launch . I just hope Gil gets the same treatment. Yeah, srsly like. I sent out a tweet asking would it be possible we'll see him before launch. Just have to wait to see if I'll get any response. And yay you, getting a response to see Suvi. Yay! I got something done. I sent back a reply that I hope Gil gets shown too. |
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Post by Crim on Mar 5, 2017 23:14:59 GMT
Yay! I got something done. I sent back a reply that I hope Gil gets shown too. Hopefully we'll get a Tempest crew vid this week. Showing both, that'd be nice. |
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Mar 5, 2017 23:23:58 GMT
Speaking of Jen Hale, will you fem players here miss her? Speaking of which, has anyone else commented yet on the female engineer who calls Scott to to help her (7:50) sounding like Jennifer Hale, while the male engineer (8:19) sounds slightly like Mark Meer? It might not be them at all, but it would be funny if Bioware snuck "Shepard" into the intro of Andromeda. Personally I don't think either of them are Shep, but it would be a nice nod. One of the biggest missed opportunities I thought there was in DA:I was that they had Cabot (voiced by Meer) and Krem (Hale) in the same room, and yet they never interacted. There could have been hilarious meta-banter! And Bioware loves that kind of thing, so I'm actually surprised they didn't do it. Clearly, a bartender in ME:A needs to be voiced by one of the Inquisitors and someone who hangs out at the club needs to be voiced by one of the other Inquisitors. We'll make it a tradition! Michael Gamble @gamblemike Suvi, one of my favorite characters in the game...brought to life by @thecheekyscot Jen G @caravaggio4lyfe are we going to see her face before the game releases? Michael Gamble @gamblemike
yup! Echoing everyone in hoping Gil gets the same treatment. And that they don't mean Early Access  I hope Suvi has an unique face based off a real person, if this is again a Traynor/Cortez situation it would be really mean from the devs. I hope she has a unique face, but I don't think it needs to be a real person's because it's possible to handcraft some awesome looking ones. Take a look at this masterpiece! Handsome, but also like someone you could meet in real life. Gamespot character's deal with science articleAboard the Tempest--the ship that players will use to travel around Andromeda's Helius Cluster--I encountered one such person: Suvi. She's staring out into the the depths of space and admiring the view. To her, the distant stars and majestic planetary bodies are "a constant reminder of the divine intelligence behind all of creation." Like Thane, Suvi reconciles two parts of her that, to outsiders, seem contradictory: she's a woman of science, but also of faith. During our conversation she reveals science brings her closer to something greater than herself. She's lived her life having to justify these beliefs and needing to prove that her faith in the divine doesn't diminish her work as a scientist.I like this bolded part, I sense many a deep convo here. Neat.  But yeah, if the writing is good, it should be interesting. I'll reiterate that I hope it gets enough conversation time to be meaningfully explored/expressed, but also doesn't take up all of her character/scenes and make her one-dimensional. And also that I hope Ryder has a large range of possible responses to Suvi, since 2 dialogue options for a conversation like that is not going to cut it. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 5, 2017 23:27:56 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike Suvi, one of my favorite characters in the game...brought to life by @thecheekyscot Jen G @caravaggio4lyfe are we going to see her face before the game releases? Michael Gamble @gamblemike
yup! Echoing everyone in hoping Gil gets the same treatment. And that they don't mean Early Access Gamespot character's deal with science articleAboard the Tempest--the ship that players will use to travel around Andromeda's Helius Cluster--I encountered one such person: Suvi. She's staring out into the the depths of space and admiring the view. To her, the distant stars and majestic planetary bodies are "a constant reminder of the divine intelligence behind all of creation." Like Thane, Suvi reconciles two parts of her that, to outsiders, seem contradictory: she's a woman of science, but also of faith. During our conversation she reveals science brings her closer to something greater than herself. She's lived her life having to justify these beliefs and needing to prove that her faith in the divine doesn't diminish her work as a scientist.I like this bolded part, I sense many a deep convo here. Neat. But yeah, if the writing is good, it should be interesting. I'll reiterate that I hope it gets enough conversation time to be meaningfully explored/expressed, but also doesn't take up all of her character/scenes and make her one-dimensional. And also that I hope Ryder has a large range of possible responses to Suvi, since 2 dialogue options for a conversation like that is not going to cut it. I've said it before, but I think IGN will do a tour of the Tempest video like they did with the Normandy earlier. As for responses, I could see them doing something like 4 options: 1) Agree 2) Stay Neutral 3) Politely Disagree 4) Impolitely Disagree |
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Post by Crim on Mar 5, 2017 23:28:22 GMT
Gamespot character's deal with science articleAboard the Tempest--the ship that players will use to travel around Andromeda's Helius Cluster--I encountered one such person: Suvi. She's staring out into the the depths of space and admiring the view. To her, the distant stars and majestic planetary bodies are "a constant reminder of the divine intelligence behind all of creation." Like Thane, Suvi reconciles two parts of her that, to outsiders, seem contradictory: she's a woman of science, but also of faith. During our conversation she reveals science brings her closer to something greater than herself. She's lived her life having to justify these beliefs and needing to prove that her faith in the divine doesn't diminish her work as a scientist.I like this bolded part, I sense many a deep convo here. Neat. |
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 6, 2017 2:05:59 GMT
I hope Suvi has an unique face based off a real person, if this is again a Traynor/Cortez situation it would be really mean from the devs. I hope she has a unique face, but I don't think it needs to be a real person's because it's possible to handcraft some awesome looking ones. Take a look at this masterpiece! Handsome, but also like someone you could meet in real life. Absolutely! Aww Cullen  what I meant is if other romanceable characters are based off in real people, it's only fair that Suvi and Gil are based off real people too, if they aren't I'm taking it like they were inferior as characters and LIs |
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Post by Crim on Mar 6, 2017 2:37:38 GMT
I hope she has a unique face, but I don't think it needs to be a real person's because it's possible to handcraft some awesome looking ones. Take a look at this masterpiece! Handsome, but also like someone you could meet in real life. Absolutely! Aww Cullen what I meant is if other romanceable characters are based off in real people, it's only fair that Suvi and Gil are based off real people too, if they aren't I'm taking it like they were inferior as characters and LIs From the vague sorta description we've heard about Gil, his VA will probably not be his face model or he might. IDK. All we know is Suvi is a redhead and yes, I've tried to spot teh gay again in that 13 minute intro vid.  I seen a redhead, it may or may not be her. This is all very exciting. |
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 6, 2017 3:11:32 GMT
Absolutely! Aww Cullen what I meant is if other romanceable characters are based off in real people, it's only fair that Suvi and Gil are based off real people too, if they aren't I'm taking it like they were inferior as characters and LIs From the vague sorta description we've heard about Gil, his VA will probably not be his face model or he might. IDK. All we know is Suvi is a redhead and yes, I've tried to spot teh gay again in that 13 minute intro vid. I seen a redhead, it may or may not be her. This is all very exciting. So both gays and redhead? What's next?   I've only seen the 13 min video once, I don't have the will to frustrate myself looking for Waldo this secrecy is just dumb. Suvi and Gil must be sex gods or really reaaaally ugly to not show them already ¬_¬U |
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Mar 6, 2017 4:29:07 GMT
But yeah, if the writing is good, it should be interesting. I'll reiterate that I hope it gets enough conversation time to be meaningfully explored/expressed, but also doesn't take up all of her character/scenes and make her one-dimensional. And also that I hope Ryder has a large range of possible responses to Suvi, since 2 dialogue options for a conversation like that is not going to cut it. I've said it before, but I think IGN will do a tour of the Tempest video like they did with the Normandy earlier. As for responses, I could see them doing something like 4 options: 1) Agree 2) Stay Neutral 3) Politely Disagree 4) Impolitely Disagree I hope you're right about that! I want to see the Tempest for a lot of reasons! Seems likely. I hope the wording for each response is very well-thought-out, too. Well, maybe not the impolite version, but you get my drift  Didn't we know this since the first page? I hope she has a unique face, but I don't think it needs to be a real person's because it's possible to handcraft some awesome looking ones. Take a look at this masterpiece! Handsome, but also like someone you could meet in real life. Absolutely! Aww Cullen what I meant is if other romanceable characters are based off in real people, it's only fair that Suvi and Gil are based off real people too, if they aren't I'm taking it like they were inferior as characters and LIs Cullen indeed  You make a good point, though. I do want the crew to get the same treatment as the squad, as they should. I'm a bit skeptical about that, but I really hope they do. |
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Post by twalicious on Mar 6, 2017 7:02:16 GMT
Hmmm, I didn't know Suvi was religious. But she sounds cool knowing that she doesn't let that interfere with her Science. If possible, religious characters are usually the first to die on my watch because I can rarely deal with their self-righteous behavior and the way they flaunt it. I actually really struggled with DA:I because of this. Lol!! My Inquisitor was an atheist and Cassandra haaaaaated it. Team Leliana! I don't get that vibe with Suvi though! We coo' |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 6, 2017 7:38:00 GMT
Hmmm, I didn't know Suvi was religious. But she sounds cool knowing that she doesn't let that interfere with her Science. If possible, religious characters are usually the first to die on my watch because I can rarely deal with their self-righteous behavior and the way they flaunt it. I actually really struggled with DA:I because of this. Lol!! My Inquisitor was an atheist and Cassandra haaaaaated it. Team Leliana! I don't get that vibe with Suvi though! We coo' That's the exact reason I made Leliana the Divine and not Cassandra! Leliana wasn't a blind follower of the dogma and saw the actual systemic issues within the Chantry. Cassandra could never separate herself entirely from her faith and reality. Suvi, hopefully, will be far more like Leliana than she will be like Cassandra. It will be interesting to see her grapple with that struggle between faith in a higher power and logic in evidence and science. |
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Post by RakiaTime on Mar 6, 2017 7:46:07 GMT
Hmm, i think I'm going to completely ignore Suvi
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Post by sparkysparkyboomgirl on Mar 6, 2017 8:13:34 GMT
If she's a redhead "suvi" meaning "summer" in finnish is quite cute  |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 6, 2017 8:26:57 GMT
I'm just gonna leave this here... |
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Mar 6, 2017 11:04:21 GMT
Interesting that some of you liked the Cullen romance. Do you generally find it easier to RP as your own gender and romance someone you wouldn't normally find attractive or to RP a different gender in order to romance someone you fancy who has a different sexual orientation? I personally find it easier to play as a woman and do a lesbian romance than to RP as a gay man, although I did like Dorian's romance.
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Post by lauratsoni on Mar 6, 2017 12:04:34 GMT
Interesting that some of you liked the Cullen romance. Do you generally find it easier to RP as your own gender and romance someone you wouldn't normally find attractive or to RP a different gender in order to romance someone you fancy who has a different sexual orientation? I personally find it easier to play as a woman and do a lesbian romance than to RP as a gay man, although I did like Dorian's romance. definitely the former for me. playing as a woman and romancing a woman feels best to me, but i've also played as a woman to romance male characters who i really liked, like alistair and jacob and thane. but as much as i ADORE characters like morrigan and ashley and miranda (<3_<3) every time i try to play as a guy to do their romance, i just... can't. maybe the writing just doesn't resonate for me? the last time i played through the me trilogy i created an m!shep to romance ashley, but then felt weird about it and changed my mind. then in me2 i decided to romance miranda, but felt weird about that too. in the end i actually ended up romancing kaidan in me3, haha. (and it was a really sweet romance too; it was cute to think of them harbouring feelings for each other over the years.) also generally, if i like a male character and he can be romanced by a dude, i prefer to go that way. currently replaying inquisition and romancing bull with m!lavellan, having a fun time with it. |
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Post by Crim on Mar 6, 2017 14:31:47 GMT
Interesting that some of you liked the Cullen romance. Do you generally find it easier to RP as your own gender and romance someone you wouldn't normally find attractive or to RP a different gender in order to romance someone you fancy who has a different sexual orientation? I personally find it easier to play as a woman and do a lesbian romance than to RP as a gay man, although I did like Dorian's romance. 1.Yes, completely. I enjoy it more, find it more engaging, more satisfying, more of an immersive experience. 2.No, I'm shallow, I've grown to accept this flaw, lol. I only find humans/asari/elfs attractive. I can't really go alien alien, just, I can't.  3. Yes, I've done this in the past, with Miranda, Cassandra, Morrigan. It's just not the same, it's just not. I don't get the same level of joy/engagement from the experience like say if I was romancing em with a female PC. I'm used to not getting nice things, I'm expecting Cora to be another Cassandra and this just sucks so fuckin' much, fuck!!!  I romanced Cullen also in DAI, never was attracted to him, just admired him in earlier playthroughs, grew to like him so I went fuck it why not, lets romance this charming chap.  I did so as a circle mage just to get that glorious forbidden love angle, really really surprised I enjoyed that one as much as I did. It was awkward and sweet, romantic, maybe that's why I liked it as much, IDK. I enjoyed that Cullen run so much more than when I romanced those girls above with a male PC. |
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 6, 2017 14:36:55 GMT
Interesting that some of you liked the Cullen romance. Do you generally find it easier to RP as your own gender and romance someone you wouldn't normally find attractive or to RP a different gender in order to romance someone you fancy who has a different sexual orientation? I personally find it easier to play as a woman and do a lesbian romance than to RP as a gay man, although I did like Dorian's romance. In my case with Bioware games I have one rule, my canon characters are going to be always queer because is my way to swim against the heteronormative mainstream wave, I've never had a problem playing as straight character because that is pretty much the norm in the mainstream media and I'm used to it, but when a game gives me the power to choose is a no-brainer for me. It has a lot of influence too if I like the character or not as LI, if I hadn't liked Iron Bull as LI I would have chosen Josie as canon LI because I don't like Dorian as LI, but just as friend, same with Isabela, I liked her romance equally to those of Fenris and Anders, but she's the only romance in DA2 who is "angst free" because is a chick who doesn't give a damn about anything and I love melting her cold heart I'm planning a straight Cass romance with a dwarf, I could ever not do that with a male human because of the heteronormative thing, but with a dwarf? Bring it on! |
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Post by notshauna on Mar 6, 2017 15:37:36 GMT
Interesting that some of you liked the Cullen romance. Do you generally find it easier to RP as your own gender and romance someone you wouldn't normally find attractive or to RP a different gender in order to romance someone you fancy who has a different sexual orientation? I personally find it easier to play as a woman and do a lesbian romance than to RP as a gay man, although I did like Dorian's romance. I almost exclusively play female characters, to the point where I honestly don't think I've ever played a male character in a post Jade Empire Bioware game. So, I can't really talk about the experience of roleplaying a gay man, not in video games. In D&D I've played pretty much every type of character, but it's pretty different from electronic RPGs. As for whether I'd choose to play a straight man or a straight female, I personally find myself playing a straight female much more often. But, I'm panromantic so even if I'm not sexually attracted to male characters, I can usually find myself enjoying it if they're emotionally attractive. |
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Mar 6, 2017 15:51:52 GMT
Interestingly, although I'm a straight man and so theoretically I'm catered for everywhere, I'm a tall-ish man with a narrow build and I don't really identify with or aspire to be the "gruff musclebound male military hero with a buzzcut" archetype, so I also take the opportunity to step away from it whenever I can. I think that's part of the reason why I have actually tended to prefer to play as women in recent BioWare games.
I've played as both genders in all the games but my canon has lately been female, and I do tend to prefer it if I actually fancy the love interest so they've all ended up being lesbians. My recent canons are Femshep and Liara, sarcastic female Hawke and Isabela, and an Elven mage with Sera (yes that last one needed a very particular world view to work.) Only in DAO is my canon hero male, a circle mage who romanced Morrigan. I think that could actually change with this game, as I do find myself liking both VAs pretty much equally, and the Ryders don't seem like such typical military-style protagonists. I'm actually not sure which gender I'll choose for my first playthrough...
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what I meant is if other romanceable characters are based off in real people, it's only fair that Suvi and Gil are based off real people too, if they aren't I'm taking it like they were inferior as characters and LIs
I seen a redhead, it may or may not be her. This is all very exciting.
You make a good point, though. I do want the crew to get the same treatment as the squad, as they should. I'm a bit skeptical about that, but I really hope they do.
