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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Mar 7, 2017 20:22:17 GMT
yourfunnyuncle hope is a dangerous thing, you say this stuff and I'll believe there is a chance again. *sigh* It's better to get over this disappointment now then mid-point in the game. Blergh, wtf couldn't they just announce the bloody options like they've always done? This marketing campaign is terribad, except for the Andromeda Initiative briefings, really liked them. Even for someone like me, it is quite frustrating not to know beforehand. I enjoyed the fact that I had months to plan how my Inquisitor would be and consider romance options before DAI came out. Knowledge of romance options enhanced my first playthrough rather than diminishing it.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 7, 2017 20:45:12 GMT
yourfunnyuncle hope is a dangerous thing, you say this stuff and I'll believe there is a chance again. *sigh* It's better to get over this disappointment now then mid-point in the game. Blergh, wtf couldn't they just announce the bloody options like they've always done? This marketing campaign is terribad, except for the Andromeda Initiative briefings, really liked them. The marketing has been pretty bad across the board but, I at least understand why they've hidden the romance options, as the announcements led to some disappointment and negative press from idiots and/or bigots. From a purely business sense it's very likely a good move as it allows them to wait until they've sold the game to tell people what they don't want to hear. The belief is that more people will not buy the game if they announce the romances than the people who will if they do, and sadly they're almost certainly right. It sucks that we're getting the run around but, unless it hits the bottom line it's very likely to fall on deaf ears.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 7, 2017 20:55:54 GMT
yourfunnyuncle hope is a dangerous thing, you say this stuff and I'll believe there is a chance again. *sigh* It's better to get over this disappointment now then mid-point in the game. Blergh, wtf couldn't they just announce the bloody options like they've always done? This marketing campaign is terribad, except for the Andromeda Initiative briefings, really liked them. The marketing has been pretty bad across the board but, I at least understand why they've hidden the romance options, as the announcements led to some disappointment and negative press from idiots and/or bigots. From a purely business sense it's very likely a good move as it allows them to wait until they've sold the game to tell people what they don't want to hear. The belief is that more people will not buy the game if they announce the romances than the people who will if they do, and sadly they're almost certainly right. It sucks that we're getting the run around but, unless it hits the bottom line it's very likely to fall on deaf ears. Indeed. DAI received a lot of flak for announcing romances prior to launch. Some of the player base was not pleased with the options and announcing ahead of time really didn't do BioWare any favors. From a financial standpoint, it just makes more sense to let players find out on their own once they play the game. Of course, there will be those who just won't buy the game and will wait for official confirmation after the game releases. It's a catch 22 as there is always going to be someone disappointed with the romance selection. This, for now, seems to be the way BioWare is going to address these issues going forward.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 7, 2017 20:56:57 GMT
yourfunnyuncle hope is a dangerous thing, you say this stuff and I'll believe there is a chance again. *sigh* It's better to get over this disappointment now then mid-point in the game. Blergh, wtf couldn't they just announce the bloody options like they've always done? This marketing campaign is terribad, except for the Andromeda Initiative briefings, really liked them. The marketing has been pretty bad across the board but, I at least understand why they've hidden the romance options, as the announcements led to some disappointment and negative press from idiots and/or bigots. From a purely business sense it's very likely a good move as it allows them to wait until they've sold the game to tell people what they don't want to hear. The belief is that more people will not buy the game if they announce the romances than the people who will if they do, and sadly they're almost certainly right. It sucks that we're getting the run around but, unless it hits the bottom line it's very likely to fall on deaf ears. The thing is, this way of doing it disadvantages LGBT people the most. How many LGBT consumers are gonna buy the game expecting, idk, an m/m squadmate only to get a rude awakening in-game? As rude as this is going to sound, straight people don't have to worry that their sexuality's not going to be represented or have their straight relationships represented or have straight characters' depiction reflect all people of that group.
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Post by lauratsoni on Mar 7, 2017 22:21:14 GMT
so, what do we think are the odds of getting a trailer tomorrow, with a little glimpse of suvi (hopefully without a giant button on her face ). i know i shouldn't get my hopes up, especially after we got a video today, but international women's day would be a great day for a cinematic sara trailer.
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Post by Crim on Mar 7, 2017 22:47:23 GMT
so, what do we think are the odds of getting a trailer tomorrow, with a little glimpse of suvi (hopefully without a giant button on her face ). i know i shouldn't get my hopes up, especially after we got a video today, but international women's day would be a great day for a cinematic sara trailer. Yeah, some good news would be nice. Today has been such a downer. And man I'm gonna be soooooooo fuckin' disappointed if Suvi is a chaste option. I can only hope Sheryl will stick to her Lels model, religious girl who likes sex. Pls maker pls.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 7, 2017 23:03:34 GMT
so, what do we think are the odds of getting a trailer tomorrow, with a little glimpse of suvi (hopefully without a giant button on her face ). i know i shouldn't get my hopes up, especially after we got a video today, but international women's day would be a great day for a cinematic sara trailer. Yeah, some good news would be nice. Today has been such a downer. And man I'm gonna be soooooooo fuckin' disappointed if Suvi is a chaste option. I can only hope Sheryl will stick to her Lels model, religious girl who likes sex. Pls maker pls. Meanwhile that is exactly the kind of thing I need to get my hopes up again, since otherwise it seems I have nothing in terms of romance options.
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Post by notshauna on Mar 7, 2017 23:12:39 GMT
The thing is, this way of doing it disadvantages LGBT people the most. How many LGBT consumers are gonna buy the game expecting, idk, an m/m squadmate only to get a rude awakening in-game? As rude as this is going to sound, straight people don't have to worry that their sexuality's not going to be represented or have their straight relationships represented or have straight characters' depiction reflect all people of that group. Don't get me wrong, I agree it sucks and I'm certainly not happy with the decision I can at least understand it. Sure, it screws us over but, realistically we're going to play the game regardless. Remember we're in the 5% of players that actually post on forums and engage with the community and even among people who are engaging in the Mass Effect community not all of them care about romance, and many more don't care about them beyond the existence of straight romance for Scott. I don't know whether or not the confirmation of Suvi or any other example as a romance would end up being a net negative in terms of income, but sadly I think it probably is.
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Post by Crim on Mar 7, 2017 23:15:26 GMT
Yeah, some good news would be nice. Today has been such a downer. And man I'm gonna be soooooooo fuckin' disappointed if Suvi is a chaste option. I can only hope Sheryl will stick to her Lels model, religious girl who likes sex. Pls maker pls. Meanwhile that is exactly the kind of thing I need to get my hopes up again, since otherwise it seems I have nothing in terms of romance options. Kallo? Lexi?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 7, 2017 23:22:05 GMT
Meanwhile that is exactly the kind of thing I need to get my hopes up again, since otherwise it seems I have nothing in terms of romance options. Kallo? Lexi? I'm hoping they are options, but the leak that seems to be more and more true doesn't have them among the LIs. It'd be great if they are and just not counted because of not having sex scenes, but in case not I'm hoping Suvi is like that.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Mar 8, 2017 0:43:14 GMT
CrimBby tell me it isn't so... tell me they didn't confirm Cora to be straight?????? I know this is a Suvi thread so I'm gonna throw this in "I love her voice and what's his about religion and Suvi? Is she meant to be religious?"
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 8, 2017 1:07:48 GMT
Crim Bby tell me it isn't so... tell me they didn't confirm Cora to be straight?????? I know this is a Suvi thread so I'm gonna throw this in "I love her voice and what's his about religion and Suvi? Is she meant to be religious?" Yeah, they've talked about in an article about how balancing her faith and science is a big part of her character.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Mar 8, 2017 1:10:09 GMT
Crim Bby tell me it isn't so... tell me they didn't confirm Cora to be straight?????? I know this is a Suvi thread so I'm gonna throw this in "I love her voice and what's his about religion and Suvi? Is she meant to be religious?" Yeah, they've talked about in an article about how balancing her faith and science is a big part of her character. Hm, that sounds interesting. I am not a religious person at all but I find that aspect of characters interesting. I really liked it with Ashley, even though it wasn't really heavily touched on. I'm really curious how it's handled with Suvi.
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Post by disgustednoise on Mar 8, 2017 1:10:47 GMT
so, what do we think are the odds of getting a trailer tomorrow, with a little glimpse of suvi (hopefully without a giant button on her face ). i know i shouldn't get my hopes up, especially after we got a video today, but international women's day would be a great day for a cinematic sara trailer. Yeah, some good news would be nice. Today has been such a downer. And man I'm gonna be soooooooo fuckin' disappointed if Suvi is a chaste option. I can only hope Sheryl will stick to her Lels model, religious girl who likes sex. Pls maker pls. I feel you. I'm about 95% sure that Suvi will be my canon Sara LI and I really don't need Josephine: The Sequel.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 1:35:45 GMT
Yeah, some good news would be nice. Today has been such a downer. And man I'm gonna be soooooooo fuckin' disappointed if Suvi is a chaste option. I can only hope Sheryl will stick to her Lels model, religious girl who likes sex. Pls maker pls. I feel you. I'm about 95% sure that Suvi will be my canon Sara LI and I really don't need Josephine: The Sequel. Happy for people who enjoyed Josie, she has her fans. I tried it once, yeah, not my cup of tea. Leliana tho... everytime as a fem Warden, everytime. Izzy and Lels, Sheryl delivers.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 8, 2017 1:38:18 GMT
Yeah, some good news would be nice. Today has been such a downer. And man I'm gonna be soooooooo fuckin' disappointed if Suvi is a chaste option. I can only hope Sheryl will stick to her Lels model, religious girl who likes sex. Pls maker pls. I feel you. I'm about 95% sure that Suvi will be my canon Sara LI and I really don't need Josephine: The Sequel. Ahh, Josie. My favorite romance in Bioware history. Now you made me want it more.
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Post by Mihura on Mar 8, 2017 1:42:16 GMT
Yeah, some good news would be nice. Today has been such a downer. And man I'm gonna be soooooooo fuckin' disappointed if Suvi is a chaste option. I can only hope Sheryl will stick to her Lels model, religious girl who likes sex. Pls maker pls. I feel you. I'm about 95% sure that Suvi will be my canon Sara LI and I really don't need Josephine: The Sequel. Actually now that I think about it, it kinda makes sense Suvi being the asexual romance. I mean there was Leliana and Ash so there are not doing that again? and with all the male gaze critiques... but than again it was confirm that there is a lesbian romance on twitter so I doubt it.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 8, 2017 1:44:33 GMT
Alright, this is gonna be sort of a tangent but who do you like the idea of Suvi getting with if she doesn't get with your Sara? I feel like it should be someone enthusiastic about science. Perhaps... Peebee, since she's really into the Remnant tech?
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Post by disgustednoise on Mar 8, 2017 1:46:54 GMT
I feel you. I'm about 95% sure that Suvi will be my canon Sara LI and I really don't need Josephine: The Sequel. Happy for people who enjoyed Josie, she has her fans. I tried it once, yeah, not my cup of tea. Leliana tho... everytime as a fem Warden, everytime. Izzy and Lels, Sheryl delivers. Yeah. I really like Josephine herself and hate her romance arc, so basically I just headcanon around it. I wasn't crazy about Leliana, but Isabela/FemHawke was my jam, so I'm hopeful about what Sheryl does with Suvi. (Also as someone who doesn't have any problem with faith and science coexisting, that could be a really great arc if it's done well.)
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Post by Mihura on Mar 8, 2017 1:47:04 GMT
Alright, this is gonna be sort of a tangent but who do you like the idea of Suvi getting with if she doesn't get with your Sara? I feel like it should be someone enthusiastic about science. Perhaps... Peebee, since she's really into the Remnant tech? Isnt Peebee with Vetra or something? Idk maybe a hot Angara?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 8, 2017 1:47:29 GMT
Alright, this is gonna be sort of a tangent but who do you like the idea of Suvi getting with if she doesn't get with your Sara? I feel like it should be someone enthusiastic about science. Perhaps... Peebee, since she's really into the Remnant tech? PeeBee already seems to likely be getting with Jaal if neither are romanced, since she is curious if asari can meld/mate with Andromeda species.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 8, 2017 1:50:25 GMT
I feel you. I'm about 95% sure that Suvi will be my canon Sara LI and I really don't need Josephine: The Sequel. Actually now that I think about it, it kinda makes sense Suvi being the asexual romance. I mean there was Leliana and Ash so there are not doing that again? and with all the male gaze critiques... but than again it was confirm that there is a lesbian romance on twitter so I doubt it. The sexual lesbian option could always be off-ship like one of the m/m options are suspected to be. Plus Suvi could still be a lesbian romance, just a nonsexual one like how Solas was for straight female elves.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 2:17:26 GMT
Alright, this is gonna be sort of a tangent but who do you like the idea of Suvi getting with if she doesn't get with your Sara? I feel like it should be someone enthusiastic about science. Perhaps... Peebee, since she's really into the Remnant tech? Isnt Peebee with Vetra or something? Idk maybe a hot Angara? Heard something hinting that yeah, eh, could be nothing also. Suvi and Jien cos I don't know, why not. Speaking of Jien, we need to see more of her goddammit.
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Post by Mihura on Mar 8, 2017 2:21:26 GMT
Actually now that I think about it, it kinda makes sense Suvi being the asexual romance. I mean there was Leliana and Ash so there are not doing that again? and with all the male gaze critiques... but than again it was confirm that there is a lesbian romance on twitter so I doubt it. The sexual lesbian option could always be off-ship like one of the m/m options are suspected to be. Plus Suvi could still be a lesbian romance, just a nonsexual one like how Solas was for straight female elves. I doubt it, that would bring a sea of salt. If Suvi is asexual, she could be homoromantic but it is still an asexual romance. A lesbian is a homosexual, so it is sexual and it was confirm by the devs but yes it can be ambiguous in design like Solas. At this point Vetra is a more likely candidate in my opinion. I am fine with either really, I do not care about sexy times in video games unless if it is for the lols but hope everyone gets at least one good romance.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 4:04:10 GMT
The sexual lesbian option could always be off-ship like one of the m/m options are suspected to be. Plus Suvi could still be a lesbian romance, just a nonsexual one like how Solas was for straight female elves. I doubt it, that would bring a sea of salt. If Suvi is asexual, she could be homoromantic but it is still an asexual romance. A lesbian is a homosexual, so it is sexual and it was confirm by the devs but yes it can be ambiguous in design like Solas. At this point Vetra is a more likely candidate in my opinion. I am fine with either really, I do not care about sexy times in video games unless if it is for the lols but hope everyone gets at least one good romance. I wanna make that wee Scot see God when she comes. She can be a pillow queen for all I care. My fRyder has just woken up from a 600 year sleep, she'll need some release, the poor dear.
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