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Post by BansheeOwnage on Mar 8, 2017 4:16:10 GMT
Hey everyone, I'm back. Is that a little salute? Looks like it. There's a reason the Romans took one look at the locals and NOPED right out of there, then built a massive wall to hide behind. And why one of the historical mottos of Scotland was "No-one provokes me with impunity". Scots are inherently badass. I've got some Viking blood in me. Shall we have a competition? [snip] That you can apparently play a shy and awkward Ryder is seriously one of the best pieces of news I've heard about this game, and makes me twice as hyped! I've been hoping for this for so long! Even if it doesn't quite match my hopes, it'll still be an improvement, guaranteed. And while it would certainly make me happy for romances (adorkable awkward flirting is the best flirting), it's not just that. I'm sick of my hero always being good at everything. Let's have an awkward hero! Plus, it would be great for a self-insert i completely agree!!! i enjoyed femshep and jennifer hale a lot, but she was definitely a lot smoother than i would be. i'd love to play a more awkward or shy protagonist, especially against characters like suvi, vetra and cora. let me be dorky! let me giggle when they flirt! let me be swept off my feet, bioware! Yes, please! And not just romance stuff. I want my Ryder to be as awkward, geeky, and dorky as possible! Science banter with Suvi, Kallo, and Gil, please? When it comes to non-native speakers of a language, there's always a spectrum of accents from those who struggle form natural-sounding sentences or to pronounce anything differently to the way it's done in their own language, to those who are practically indistinguishable from a native. Where people lie on that spectrum depends partly on how much they practice, partly on their facility with accents and partly with the amount of exposure to native speakers that they've had (including the accent that those native speakers themselves have). To me, fake accents usually sound like a parody of someone on the heavily accented end of that spectrum mixed with bits of native pronunciation that the native speaker inadvertently uses. The "native” bits are often not the same as those that get absorbed naturally by a learner, so you can quite easily tell the difference.
Also fake accents often feature pronunciation of words in a ”foreign” way that doesn't accurately map to how speakers with the supposed accent would actually pronounce that word. Mother Giselle in DAI is particularly guilty of that.Yup, this is especially prevalent in DA:I with Orlesians, and there are a lot of Orlesians in DA:I. Could they really not find a few more French actors? What about French-Canadian actors? Bioware's in Canada, after all. Actually, Bioware Montreal is in... Montreal. Wow. Anyway, they sounded very artificial and exaggerated, so it makes sense that my favourite Orlesian voice is that of Stroud, because guess what? He's actually French And smooth. Welp, looks like Suvi is my only hope now. Finally got confirmation on what I've been expecting with Cora today. Cheers again, another Cassandra moment relived... love this. gaycaravaggio your source is pretty bang on the money, it's all falling into place. Tragic. Whaaaaa? Crap. I was never really invested in Cora, partly because I don't know much about her as I said, and partly because I didn't want to get invested in a 99%-likely straight romance anyway, but I feel bad for you Can relate about Cass, too. Help us, Suvi-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope! Also, don't you mean "is pretty good bang on the money"? I'm just pretty glad I braced myself for this inevitability with some time. I'm still consumed with salt rn tho. How tragic, Cora could have broken that tired and predictable chain. What a waste. Oh and yeah, a new video guys... Too bad they toured the Nexus instead of the Tempest. Seriously hope they do that too. We need to see Gil and Suvi! Oh and yeah, a new video guys... *SNIP* Seems as though I will be exploring everywhere looking for Trilogy throwbacks...
Well, Alec has a model of the Normandy SR2. Shepard fanboy confirmed! Romance thread, Germans here translated the article the reviewer gave. Liam said he isn't into men, Cora not into women. The straight starting human companion train rolls on and on. Yay. No bi Liam? Noooooooo Do they really have to do this? The starting human squadmates are by far the most logical options for being bi. But no, for the 4th game in a row they'll only be available to straight people. That is honestly such BS Seriously, Bioware, you won't miss out on your fancy options if you just make them open to everyone! We all know it's impossible that the situation would ever be reversed - to have starting humans as gay only, and side-NPCs for straight people. yourfunnyuncle hope is a dangerous thing, you say this stuff and I'll believe there is a chance again. *sigh* It's better to get over this disappointment now then mid-point in the game. Blergh, wtf couldn't they just announce the bloody options like they've always done? This marketing campaign is terribad, except for the Andromeda Initiative briefings, really liked them. I'm with you 1000% (no typo). It's why I've always said they should have just revealed the options. Gives people time to prepare and accept. Finding out someone you really hoped for isn't available during the course of a playthrough (possibly with a character designed around that pairing) is no fun at all*. And yeah, the marketing has been pretty bad, except for the briefings and latest couple of videos. None of the cinematic trailers have gotten me anywhere near hyped, and the ME2/3 ones sure did. Need moar Two Steps From Hell, and Sara Ryder. *Roleplaying is a nice reason to know the options in advance, too. Without knowing, it's hard to plan your first character, and tons of people are just going to end up flirting wildly with everything and everyone, rather than playing a character designed around a romance option - whether they're meant to be compatible or rivals, whether they will mirror them or contrast, etc. Even for someone like me, it is quite frustrating not to know beforehand. I enjoyed the fact that I had months to plan how my Inquisitor would be and consider romance options before DAI came out. Knowledge of romance options enhanced my first playthrough rather than diminishing it. Exactly. It was quite helpful to know I couldn't romance Cass before playing. The thing is, this way of doing it disadvantages LGBT people the most. How many LGBT consumers are gonna buy the game expecting, idk, an m/m squadmate only to get a rude awakening in-game? As rude as this is going to sound, straight people don't have to worry that their sexuality's not going to be represented or have their straight relationships represented or have straight characters' depiction reflect all people of that group. And this news (I'll be generous and still call it a rumour, though) would only emphasize and confirm what you said: That straight people never have to worry about their options. They'll always get access to the starting human companions, among others. But it's a mystery as to what lesbian and gay players will receive, so naturally we're going to be a lot more apprehensive. Hm, that sounds interesting. I am not a religious person at all but I find that aspect of characters interesting. I really liked it with Ashley, even though it wasn't really heavily touched on. I'm really curious how it's handled with Suvi. Well, Ashley was pretty xenophobic, which resulted in me not liking her. I hope Suvi contrasts that and is totally cool with aliens. Alright, this is gonna be sort of a tangent but who do you like the idea of Suvi getting with if she doesn't get with your Sara? I feel like it should be someone enthusiastic about science. Perhaps... Peebee, since she's really into the Remnant tech? Ohgodno. If I learn she ends up with Peebee if not romanced, I think I'd give up on her on the spot. Or romance her to save her from Peebee If I had to choose someone, Jien? Actually now that I think about it, it kinda makes sense Suvi being the asexual romance. I mean there was Leliana and Ash so there are not doing that again? and with all the male gaze critiques... but than again it was confirm that there is a lesbian romance on twitter so I doubt it. The sexual lesbian option could always be off-ship like one of the m/m options are suspected to be. Plus Suvi could still be a lesbian romance, just a nonsexual one like how Solas was for straight female elves. Isn't it obvious Peebee will be a sexual f/f option, because fanservice? Still, things need not be so black and white. Suvi could be a sexual or nonsexual option depending on your character's choices, which seems like the obvious solution to me. Or ambiguous, as you said. Personally, my perfect scenario would be if she had a scene like Cullen's. I found it very tasteful.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Mar 8, 2017 4:17:47 GMT
I doubt it, that would bring a sea of salt. I wanna make that wee Scot see God when she comes. She can be a pillow queen for all I care. My fRyder has just woken up from a 600 year sleep, she'll need some release, the poor dear. I read that as "Scott" Awkward
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 4:43:33 GMT
I wanna make that wee Scot see God when she comes. She can be a pillow queen for all I care. My fRyder has just woken up from a 600 year sleep, she'll need some release, the poor dear. I read that as "Scott" Awkward GAH!! Unclean, unclean... why BansheeOwnage why???
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 4:56:57 GMT
Welp, looks like Suvi is my only hope now. Finally got confirmation on what I've been expecting with Cora today. Cheers again, another Cassandra moment relived... love this. gaycaravaggio your source is pretty bang on the money, it's all falling into place. Tragic. Whaaaaa? Crap. I was never really invested in Cora, partly because I don't know much about her as I said, and partly because I didn't want to get invested in a 99%-likely straight romance anyway, but I feel bad for you Can relate about Cass, too. Help us, Suvi-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope! Also, don't you mean "is pretty good bang on the money"? *sigh* just like in life I guess, those straight girl crushes really stings, don't they. Except it's worse IRL, so much worse. Re-sharing this lol video cos it's relevant and stuff. Thanks vertigomez
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 8, 2017 5:00:24 GMT
I saw that you tagged me and I was like aw, shit, what'd I do now but I see you're just sharing the straight girl crush pain. THE STRUGGLE IS REAL.
-gently duct tapes all the broken hearts in this thread-
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 8, 2017 5:05:37 GMT
Hey everyone, I'm back. The sexual lesbian option could always be off-ship like one of the m/m options are suspected to be. Plus Suvi could still be a lesbian romance, just a nonsexual one like how Solas was for straight female elves. Isn't it obvious Peebee will be a sexual f/f option, because fanservice? Still, things need not be so black and white. Suvi could be a sexual or nonsexual option depending on your character's choices, which seems like the obvious solution to me. Or ambiguous, as you said. Personally, my perfect scenario would be if she had a scene like Cullen's. I found it very tasteful. That is an amazing gif! Judging from leaks Suvi will(unfortunately for me) be a sexual romance with a full sex scene and nudity. I wasn't a fan of Cullen's. While more tasteful than Cassandra's and The Iron Bull's, it still had it be mandatory.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 5:20:55 GMT
I saw that you tagged me and I was like aw, shit, what'd I do now but I see you're just sharing the straight girl crush pain. THE STRUGGLE IS REAL. -gently duct tapes all the broken hearts in this thread- My summoning worked. Hi.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 8, 2017 5:23:43 GMT
How many firstborns did you have to sacrifice to get me in this thread, Crim?
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 5:26:18 GMT
How many firstborns did you have to sacrifice to get me in this thread, Crim? We can make this thread like pre-DAI Sera thread, gay 4 dayz. Didn't we have fun times sis?
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Post by SaraRyder on Mar 8, 2017 5:29:22 GMT
Actually now that I think about it, it kinda makes sense Suvi being the asexual romance. I mean there was Leliana and Ash so there are not doing that again? and with all the male gaze critiques... but than again it was confirm that there is a lesbian romance on twitter so I doubt it. The sexual lesbian option could always be off-ship like one of the m/m options are suspected to be. Plus Suvi could still be a lesbian romance, just a nonsexual one like how Solas was for straight female elves. I already lost my shit today with Cora. If Suvi the only female human romancbale on the ship is not sexual I'm just gonna jump off a building. Let the non sexual one be off ship on the nexus, or on a planet. If it's not Kallo already.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 8, 2017 5:31:40 GMT
How many firstborns did you have to sacrifice to get me in this thread, Crim? We can make this thread like pre-DAI Sera thread, gay 4 dayz. Didn't we have fun times sis?
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 8, 2017 5:33:34 GMT
How many firstborns did you have to sacrifice to get me in this thread, Crim? We can make this thread like pre-DAI Sera thread, gay 4 dayz. Didn't we have fun times sis? huehue tru :dirty: But if you're not careful, I'm gonna get all excited and you'll have to spray me with the fire extinguisher again.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 5:46:02 GMT
The sexual lesbian option could always be off-ship like one of the m/m options are suspected to be. Plus Suvi could still be a lesbian romance, just a nonsexual one like how Solas was for straight female elves. I already lost my shit today with Cora. If Suvi the only female human romancbale on the ship is not sexual I'm just gonna jump off a building. Let the non sexual one be off ship on the nexus, or on a planet. If it's not Kallo already. Heard stuff and things about her romance, sound promising. Nudity and such. Oh and she's written by Sheryl so there is that.
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Post by SaraRyder on Mar 8, 2017 5:48:45 GMT
I already lost my shit today with Cora. If Suvi the only female human romancbale on the ship is not sexual I'm just gonna jump off a building. Let the non sexual one be off ship on the nexus, or on a planet. If it's not Kallo already. Heard stuff and things about her romance, sound promising. Nudity and such. Oh and she's written by Sheryl so there is that. That sounds amazing, now I just hope her scottish accent isn't too thick because the voice actress said it's a "wee bit thicker" in the game. At least there is that if no Cora. Although Idkkkk the optimist in me is hanging on to what that one German user said that the German article seemed to only be speculating about Cora since the other article said that Liam is straight.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 5:49:37 GMT
We can make this thread like pre-DAI Sera thread, gay 4 dayz. Didn't we have fun times sis? huehue tru :dirty: But if you're not careful, I'm gonna get all excited and you'll have to spray me with the fire extinguisher again. I'd imagine I will have to use that in regards to Vetra, heard you want to climb that woman.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 8, 2017 5:52:50 GMT
The sexual lesbian option could always be off-ship like one of the m/m options are suspected to be. Plus Suvi could still be a lesbian romance, just a nonsexual one like how Solas was for straight female elves. I already lost my shit today with Cora. If Suvi the only female human romancbale on the ship is not sexual I'm just gonna jump off a building. Let the non sexual one be off ship on the nexus, or on a planet. If it's not Kallo already.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 5:56:55 GMT
Heard stuff and things about her romance, sound promising. Nudity and such. Oh and she's written by Sheryl so there is that. That sounds amazing, now I just hope her scottish accent isn't too thick because the voice actress said it's a "wee bit thicker" in the game. At least there is that if no Cora. Although Idkkkk the optimist in me is hanging on to what that one German user said that the German article seemed to only be speculating about Cora since the other article said that Liam is straight. Yeah, I'm still pretty damn salty about Cora. Really hoped that they'd break the curse with her. Keep optimistic about her being possibru tho, I'm just too far gone to see otherwise. I'd love to be proven wrong.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 8, 2017 6:02:14 GMT
huehue tru :dirty: But if you're not careful, I'm gonna get all excited and you'll have to spray me with the fire extinguisher again. I'd imagine I will have to use that in regards to Vetra, heard you want to are going to climb that woman.
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Post by SaraRyder on Mar 8, 2017 6:04:21 GMT
I already lost my shit today with Cora. If Suvi the only female human romancbale on the ship is not sexual I'm just gonna jump off a building. Let the non sexual one be off ship on the nexus, or on a planet. If it's not Kallo already. No offence by the way it's just that after the bad news with Cora today Suvi is the only female option on the tempest it seems and I really like my sex scenes aha.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 6:12:34 GMT
No offence by the way it's just that after the bad news with Cora today Suvi is the only female option on the tempest it seems and I really like my sex scenes aha. Amen.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 8, 2017 6:16:06 GMT
Honestly, I'll be fine with Suvi not having an explicit sex scene as long as there's no weird conversation where she talks about how she's "saving" herself for marriage. It'll make me feel like I've been sent back to the 1950s.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 6:26:31 GMT
Honestly, I'll be fine with Suvi not having an explicit sex scene as long as there's no weird conversation where she talks about how she's "saving" herself for marriage. It'll make me feel like I've been sent back to the 1950s. I'd be pretty happy with something tasteful like Liara's scene in ME3 or Cullen's in DAI. Could never get into IB's kink romance, I tried, lord did I try. Probably would have enjoyed it more if it was a female LI but I digress, I don't need explicit either but I'd still want a love scene.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 8, 2017 6:31:33 GMT
No offence by the way it's just that after the bad news with Cora today Suvi is the only female option on the tempest it seems and I really like my sex scenes aha. She isn't though. There is PeeBee and Vetra, both of whom if not at least the former will have sex scenes. Honestly, I'll be fine with Suvi not having an explicit sex scene as long as there's no weird conversation where she talks about how she's "saving" herself for marriage. It'll make me feel like I've been sent back to the 1950s. Yeah, because nobody does that anymore.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 8, 2017 6:42:55 GMT
No offence by the way it's just that after the bad news with Cora today Suvi is the only female option on the tempest it seems and I really like my sex scenes aha. She isn't though. There is PeeBee and Vetra, both of whom if not at least the former will have sex scenes. Honestly, I'll be fine with Suvi not having an explicit sex scene as long as there's no weird conversation where she talks about how she's "saving" herself for marriage. It'll make me feel like I've been sent back to the 1950s. Yeah, because nobody does that anymore. There are people who still do it largely because of familial/social pressures, but the reason women were expected to do that was because of outdated patriarchal ideals about sexual purity. Furthermore, there'd be even less reason to have something like that in the future because the meaning of marriage and the value of "purity" has already changed a lot over the last few decades and will continue to change in the future. I don't think people a century from now will be desperate to "save" themselves for marriage, since marriage then won't mean exactly what it does now or what it meant in, say, the 1800s. If they give the lack of sex scene an explanation, it should be something more intrinsic that has nothing to do with religion or sexual purity whatsoever. For example, "I'm not ready to take that stage yet" is a perfectly fine excuse.
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Post by Crim on Mar 8, 2017 6:49:13 GMT
She isn't though. There is PeeBee and Vetra, both of whom if not at least the former will have sex scenes. Yeah, because nobody does that anymore. There are people who still do it largely because of familial/social pressures, but the reason women were expected to do that was because of outdated patriarchal ideals about sexual purity. Furthermore, there'd be even less reason to have something like that in the future because the meaning of marriage and the value of "purity" has already changed a lot over the last few decades and will continue to change in the future. I don't think people a century from now will be desperate to "save" themselves for marriage, since marriage then won't mean exactly what it does now or what it meant in, say, the 1800s. If they give the lack of sex scene an explanation, it should be something more intrinsic that has nothing to do with religion or sexual purity whatsoever. For example, "I'm not ready to take that stage yet" is a perfectly fine excuse. That'd be fine with me also, for people who want it. Just give the option for full steam ahead too. Didn't Dorian's romance have this option? You could turn down the sex scene on those grounds and still keep the romance open? Or am I imagining things?
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