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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 3:00:43 GMT
But how does Varric know any of that. Meeting up with Vaea like was done was uber convenient, like they'd manipulated them into leaving Fereldan to meet with Varric in the first place. Varric is smart, but he's not a mind reader and unless he stalked them prior to their arrival long enough to find out Vaea was a theif, and a talented one, he arranged a meeting tween Vaea and Charter on the words "Good with a Saddle" alone. Sinc e Inquisition probably searched for "people Solas doesn't know" from the start, they likely kept an eye for potential candidates for some time. Also - I don't think Varric is responsible for "mind reading", most of it is likely Inquisition intel I thought this story was pre trespasser. They don't even know Solas is the Dread Wolf to be needing to find anyone new to stop him. Then Vaea is actually a pretty terrible thief in that even an Orlesion Venatori can figure out her MO and she additionally garners the attention of the Inquisition spy master. So they should not hire her / test her to save Charter's lover. Actually, the Orlesian was surprised that the 'seeds' he planted turned out to be true and Vaea is indeed a thief - he just wanted to frame her. Also - whether anybody knows of her misdeeds is irrelevant to her effectiveness as a thief, nor the fact that nobody would really be able to link her to Inquisition. So any thief would do, and Charter just incidentally found Vaea doing thieving work? and one job was enough to decide she was good enough to infiltrate Sebastion's Castle? Either she got an MO that flagged her and they'd been watching her in advance, or she was a nobody theif they randomly decided to take a chance on cuz she gave "good vibes". One looks bad on her, the other looks bad on the Inquisition.
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 3:04:33 GMT
I want to see Ser Aaron as a romance option. He's a lot more relevant to my interests as a straight, 40-something female gamer. I wonder if he went AWOL from the Wardens at Ostagar, much to his eternal shame. Everyone who would know one way or the other is dead. It would explain why he has warden armor in heroes of dragon age and why he supposedly so close and trusted by King Alistair. Also I wouldn't mind him being a companion; he makes me think of a more jovial and laidback version of keldorn from balders gate for some reason Unless you're implying he was one of the unseen Warden's in the Soldier's camp we can't go to at Ostagar... Well Alistair would actually hate the man. Did he leave the field with Loghain? Was he a Warden that decided he'd skip the "Sacrifice" part of the deal? Why would Alistair be close to the man? Or are you saying that he was a Warden, outside the borders of Fereldan, and therefore... shouldn't blame himself for Cailan's death by a long shot?
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 22, 2017 3:05:08 GMT
Sinc e Inquisition probably searched for "people Solas doesn't know" from the start, they likely kept an eye for potential candidates for some time. Also - I don't think Varric is responsible for "mind reading", most of it is likely Inquisition intel I thought this story was pre trespasser. They don't even know Solas is the Dread Wolf to be needing to find anyone new to stop him. It's not? Mike Laidlaw confirmed it's post-Trespasser. And even if we assume that they aren't, it doesn't mean that they weren't on the lookout for the agents anyhow. No, Varric also tells Vaea that it's because of her work ethic - she doesn't kill while she's thieving. And she proved that in Kirkwall with that Templar.
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Post by hero11n7 on Sept 22, 2017 3:05:39 GMT
It would explain why he has warden armor in heroes of dragon age and why he supposedly so close and trusted by King Alistair. Also I wouldn't mind him being a companion; he makes me think of a more jovial and laidback version of keldorn from balders gate for some reason Unless you're implying he was one of the unseen Warden's in the Soldier's camp we can't go to at Ostagar... Well Alistair would actually hate the man. Did he leave the field with Loghain? Was he a Warden that decided he'd skip the "Sacrifice" part of the deal? Why would Alistair be close to the man? Or are you saying that he was a Warden, outside the borders of Fereldan, and therefore... shouldn't blame himself for Cailan's death by a long shot? Just an idea; easy there
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 22, 2017 3:07:34 GMT
I'll note that he doesn't actually wear Warden armour in the comic, just in Heroes of Dragon Age.
But he isn't grouped with the Wardens in HoDA, just with Ferelden. Thus, you can't give him Warden-specific equipment or put him in the same team with other Wardens to get bonuses. It could just be a stylistic thing.
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Post by hero11n7 on Sept 22, 2017 3:11:39 GMT
I'll note that he doesn't actually wear Warden armour in the comic, just in Heroes of Dragon Age. yeah I know; still weird why they have it that way
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 22, 2017 3:16:12 GMT
A lot of HoDA characters depart from their in-game appearance. You should see the Baroness from Awakening, for instance. Talk about a real foxes' mother, as Homestar Runner might say.
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Post by hero11n7 on Sept 22, 2017 13:54:06 GMT
If Vaea does end up a romance option, I want to see Ser Aaron act like an Embarrassing Dad for her. I think it could be hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 14:10:33 GMT
If Vaea does end up a romance option, I want to see Ser Aaron act like an Embarrassing Dad for her. I think it could be hilarious. He would be asking her suitor what their intentions were, all dad-like.
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 14:20:52 GMT
No, Varric also tells Vaea that it's because of her work ethic - she doesn't kill while she's thieving. And she proved that in Kirkwall with that Templar. Thanks for clarification on the timeline. This still doesn't tell me when they started observing her but I think you're saying she was observed long before arrival. Meaning she's not actually that invisible. Also, it's a bit odd. Petty thievery and/or grand robbery is not a skill I'd look for in my next agent, especially if she's screwing up enough by stealing such large objects every where she goes.
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Post by hero11n7 on Sept 22, 2017 14:42:08 GMT
If Vaea does end up a romance option, I want to see Ser Aaron act like an Embarrassing Dad for her. I think it could be hilarious. He would be asking her suitor what their intentions were, all dad-like. Now I'm imagining Ser Aaron jokingly mentioning the possibility of "grandkids"...and Vaea looking absolutely mortified 😂
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 14:50:57 GMT
He would be asking her suitor what their intentions were, all dad-like. Now I'm imagining Ser Aaron jokingly mentioning the possibility of "grandkids"...and Vaea looking absolutely mortified 😂 I really feel uncomfortable at the idea of having half breed children with our LIs if the LI is the child bearing half. It's why I will romance Merril with a female. And if Vaea were a bi LI, I would romance her female as well. My Hawke may want Fenris babies, but she's got a lot more going for her- human nobility, ties to the Viscount of Kirkwall, Fame in being the Champion. Rags to Riches story that shows she could provide for herself fine. And no chance of bitterly regretting the liason.
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Post by hero11n7 on Sept 22, 2017 14:52:28 GMT
Now I'm imagining Ser Aaron jokingly mentioning the possibility of "grandkids"...and Vaea looking absolutely mortified 😂 I really feel uncomfortable at the idea of having half breed children with our LIs if the LI is the child bearing half. It's why I will romance Merril with a female. And if Vaea were a bi LI, I would romance her female as well. My Hawke may want Fenris babies, but she's got a lot more going for her- human nobility, ties to the Viscount of Kirkwall, Fame in being the Champion. Rags to Riches story that shows she could provide for herself fine. And no chance of bitterly regretting the liason. it's just a joke
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Post by hero11n7 on Sept 22, 2017 15:37:40 GMT
Though it could make for a rather cute dialogue. Imagine Vaea getting all flustered at the idea and admitting in shy, understated way that she wouldn't mind the idea of starting a family when the time is right.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 22, 2017 15:55:59 GMT
If we still get to play races then I'd be happy with Vaea as a female elf romance option for my male elf PC. It is becoming somewhat tiresome that I inevitably have to play my male elf PC as gay in order to explain why he hasn't already hooked up with a female elf partner or is willing to go with a non-elf one. (Or in the case of my male city elf warden, explain why he isn't faithful to his betrothed). This is not racist but based off the fact that if babies are a possibility then they are always going to be human/dwarf/qunari rather than elf and I don't want the elven race to die out.
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 22, 2017 16:44:54 GMT
If we still get to play races then I'd be happy with Vaea as a female elf romance option for my male elf PC. It is becoming somewhat tiresome that I inevitably have to play my male elf PC as gay in order to explain why he hasn't already hooked up with a female elf partner or is willing to go with a non-elf one. (Or in the case of my male city elf warden, explain why he isn't faithful to his betrothed). A heterosexual elven woman? Surely you jest.
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 17:15:07 GMT
If we still get to play races then I'd be happy with Vaea as a female elf romance option for my male elf PC. It is becoming somewhat tiresome that I inevitably have to play my male elf PC as gay in order to explain why he hasn't already hooked up with a female elf partner or is willing to go with a non-elf one. (Or in the case of my male city elf warden, explain why he isn't faithful to his betrothed). This is not racist but based off the fact that if babies are a possibility then they are always going to be human/dwarf/qunari rather than elf and I don't want the elven race to die out. I'm glad I'm not the only one that has these qualms. Although I think Dalish are earlier to procreation than the city folk, although I don't know why I think that.
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 17:23:34 GMT
I really feel uncomfortable at the idea of having half breed children with our LIs if the LI is the child bearing half. It's why I will romance Merril with a female. And if Vaea were a bi LI, I would romance her female as well. My Hawke may want Fenris babies, but she's got a lot more going for her- human nobility, ties to the Viscount of Kirkwall, Fame in being the Champion. Rags to Riches story that shows she could provide for herself fine. And no chance of bitterly regretting the liason. If you want to go het, just rp an elf. We don't know what race selection we'll get in DA4.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 17:43:28 GMT
I don't think it's ridiculous to assume they will have the same races available in the next game as were offered in Inquisition, but feel free to argue the contrary. Out of curiosity, Phoray, have ever rp'd a non-human in Origins or Inquisition?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 18:16:46 GMT
Since we are talking possibility of romances, do Vaea or Ser aaron ever show evidence of them being a certain orientation in the comics? We know Marius likes or liked Calpernia, and Tessa is in a relationship with Charter so am curious.
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 18:27:02 GMT
Since we are talking possibility of romances, do Vaea or Ser aaron ever show evidence of them being a certain orientation in the comics? We know Marius likes or liked Calpernia, and Tessa is in a relationship with Charter so am curious. Vaea flirts with Sebastion, but intentionally just to put him off balance because her "spy sources" say he's single and pious. I thought it a pretty dumb move, but that may or may not imply a comfort around men. I don't think I ever saw Ser Aaron speak to a woman (may be wrong) so there was no romantic inclination shown either direction.
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 18:43:01 GMT
I don't think it's ridiculous to assume they will have the same races available in the next game as were offered in Inquisition, but feel free to argue the contrary. Out of curiosity, Phoray, have ever rp'd a non-human in Origins or Inquisition? First DAO game I was city elf, stayed Wardens with Alistair. IF we even COULD get pregnant with that double whammy, the Wardens don't care about half breeds. Mistress to King Alistair may have to care- but again, IF it could even happen. I have a Female Surana for Zevran I completed that I canon as managing to have one child. A lesbian dwarf for Lel. In Inquisition, I RP'd a Dalish Man in his 40s who's pregnant wife had died over a decade before. That loss didn't incline him to seek out the family life again, in spite of Dalish expectations. He romanced Cass, who is herself kinda on the old side to be having babies. But due to her comment at the Temple of Mythall, I have them being in a relationship a couple years before letting it fade into loving friendship and respect. Then I got a Dalish elf for Solas, but she's a widow mother of two grown children at 50. Then I got another Dalish elf for Cullen, child of the 50 year old woman for Solas. She totally has half breed babies with Cullen, I don't even care But all these babies I'm head canoning are Female Elf Protaganist's who can take care of themselves but also, human fathers who can hide the fact the kid's a half breed if my Hero's die. (or, in Zev's case, no half breed applies. In fem Hawke/Fenris case, I don't think he'd care and nor would her living sibling.) Unlike Fenriel's mother in the Alienage, who by association of raising him, is constantly advertising the situation of his birth. If Merril got pregnant and Hero Hawke died, she's in teh same situation as Fenriel's mother.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 18:45:59 GMT
Since we are talking possibility of romances, do Vaea or Ser aaron ever show evidence of them being a certain orientation in the comics? We know Marius likes or liked Calpernia, and Tessa is in a relationship with Charter so am curious. Vaea flirts with Sebastion, but intentionally just to put him off balance because her "spy sources" say he's single and pious. I thought it a pretty dumb move, but that may or may not imply a comfort around men. I don't think I ever saw Ser Aaron speak to a woman (may be wrong) so there was no romantic inclination shown either direction. What kind of flirting did she do, out of curiosity?
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 18:50:03 GMT
Vaea flirts with Sebastion, but intentionally just to put him off balance because her "spy sources" say he's single and pious. I thought it a pretty dumb move, but that may or may not imply a comfort around men. I don't think I ever saw Ser Aaron speak to a woman (may be wrong) so there was no romantic inclination shown either direction. What kind of flirting did she do, out of curiosity? Hmmmm. It's implied her tone of voice and expression is appreciative of him, then she touches him on the shoulder. Later, she kisses a man on the cheek to make him uncomfortable as well as steal something.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 18:51:36 GMT
What kind of flirting did she do, out of curiosity? Hmmmm. It's implied her tone of voice and expression is appreciative of him, then she touches him on the shoulder. Later, she kisses a man on the cheek to make him uncomfortable as well as steal something. Ah, okay. I was just curious if it was more of an innocent kind of flirt or a more sultry kind of flirt. Sounds like the former than the latter. Thanks for answering.
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