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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 18:57:37 GMT
I don't think it's ridiculous to assume they will have the same races available in the next game as were offered in Inquisition, but feel free to argue the contrary. Out of curiosity, Phoray, have ever rp'd a non-human in Origins or Inquisition? First DAO game I was city elf, stayed Wardens with Alistair. IF we even COULD get pregnant with that double whammy, the Wardens don't care about half breeds. Mistress to King Alistair may have to care- but again, IF it could even happen. I have a Female Surana for Zevran I completed that I canon as managing to have one child. A lesbian dwarf for Lel. In Inquisition, I RP'd a Dalish Man in his 40s who's pregnant wife had died over a decade before. That loss didn't incline him to seek out the family life again, in spite of Dalish expectations. He romanced Cass, who is herself kinda on the old side to be having babies. But due to her comment at the Temple of Mythall, I have them being in a relationship a couple years before letting it fade into loving friendship and respect. Then I got a Dalish elf for Solas, but she's a widow mother of two grown children at 50. Then I got another Dalish elf for Cullen, child of the 50 year old woman for Solas. She totally has half breed babies with Cullen, I don't even care But all these babies I'm head canoning are Female Elf Protaganist's who can take care of themselves but also, human fathers who can hide the fact the kid's a half breed if my Hero's die. (or, in Zev's case, no half breed applies. In fem Hawke/Fenris case, I don't think he'd care and nor would her living sibling.) Unlike Fenriel's mother in the Alienage, who by association of raising him, is constantly advertising the situation of his birth. If Merril got pregnant and Hero Hawke died, she's in teh same situation as Fenriel's mother. Do you have a favorite Inquisitor?
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Post by phoray on Sept 22, 2017 19:02:34 GMT
Do have a favorite Inquisitor? I've had Inquisitors Ive really enjoyed. The anti-noble Noble youngling who romanced Blackwall and became a red jenny. I adore Cullen, so my Dalish Quiz for him is also going to be great due to a good back story. I romanced him once before on my first PT with a human mage (who, as a self insert, was a bit bland). But I have 4 and half Quizies to do, so it's a bit early yet to declare a winner among them. Current Crown goes to Mara Embry Trevelyan. she is my avatar and the favorite Inquisitor out of 5 I've played thus far.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 19:21:35 GMT
Mine is a tie between my qunari who romanced Sera and my Lavellan who romances Solas...can't wait to see how that turns out.
Anyway, if Vaea and Aaron are in the next game I hope they're both love interests they're both pretty cool characters.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 19:27:50 GMT
I wonder if Bioware may have Tessa and Charter be a poly relationship in DA4 if these comics are setting up the new people. I remember Bioware saying that making a poly relationship is a programming nightmare so if they ever did it most likely it would be the two are already in a relationship and the PC is invited to join in. Maybe Vaea will be an ace/demi option. As for Ser Aaron, if he is one maybe he is gay so the M/M players can finally have the Gay KISA they've always wanted.
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Post by hero11n7 on Sept 22, 2017 19:34:44 GMT
I wonder if Bioware may have Tessa and Charter be a poly relationship in DA4 if these comics are setting up the new people. I remember Bioware saying that making a poly relationship is a programming nightmare so if they ever did it most likely it would be the two are already in a relationship and the PC is invited to join in. Maybe Vaea will be an ace/demi option. As for Ser Aaron, if he is one maybe he is gay so the M/M players can finally have the Gay KISA they've always wanted. I just looked up what demisexual means; i didn't know that was a thing, interesting...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2017 20:04:22 GMT
I wonder if Bioware may have Tessa and Charter be a poly relationship in DA4 if these comics are setting up the new people. I remember Bioware saying that making a poly relationship is a programming nightmare so if they ever did it most likely it would be the two are already in a relationship and the PC is invited to join in. Maybe Vaea will be an ace/demi option. As for Ser Aaron, if he is one maybe he is gay so the M/M players can finally have the Gay KISA they've always wanted. I just looked up what demisexual means; i didn't know that was a thing, interesting... I'm glad I was able to show you something new today. Bioware did say ace/demi options are something they have considered.
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Post by hero11n7 on Sept 22, 2017 21:29:28 GMT
I just looked up what demisexual means; i didn't know that was a thing, interesting... I'm glad I was able to show you something new today. Bioware did say ace/demi options are something they have considered. how do you think would be the best way to apply each one?
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 23, 2017 0:38:39 GMT
No, Varric also tells Vaea that it's because of her work ethic - she doesn't kill while she's thieving. And she proved that in Kirkwall with that Templar. Thanks for clarification on the timeline. This still doesn't tell me when they started observing her but I think you're saying she was observed long before arrival. Meaning she's not actually that invisible. Also, it's a bit odd. Petty thievery and/or grand robbery is not a skill I'd look for in my next agent, especially if she's screwing up enough by stealing such large objects every where she goes. I think you're overestimating people's knowledge - even the sneaky Orlesian was surprised Vaea actually turned out to be a thief, when he only wanted to over-exaggerate the mere rumors of high-profile thefts following Sir Aaron. Most people don't connect those to Vaea - who herself had a separate thieving reputation (I don't think she'd be hired as thief much if people knew that most of riches she 'Robin Hooded' away, like in Kirkwall). Heck, there are multiple instances of people in comics surprised that Sir Aaron has an elf squire and mostly seem to overlook her. And Inquisition has a well-established spy network, even called by Morrigan one of the finest in Thedas, so they're more than capable of gathering good intel. Though in reality we don't know how much knowledge they've had about Aaron and Vaea. They may have observed them, but only made decision to involve Vaea after the arrived in Kirkwall.
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Post by phoray on Sept 23, 2017 14:23:20 GMT
melbellaTessa and Marius never had a personality, but I feel like Aaron and Vaea got one. You don't think so? Otherwise it would be hard to dislike Vaea for specific actions she does.
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Post by melbella on Sept 23, 2017 17:22:21 GMT
melbella Tessa and Marius never had a personality, but I feel like Aaron and Vaea got one. You don't think so? Otherwise it would be hard to dislike Vaea for specific actions she does.
Almost everything we learn about Aaron is what other people say about him. He barely speaks in his own voice. This, to me, equates with little to no personality. Vaea is narrating her adventures from a future viewpoint. I'd rather experience the action from a "now" viewpoint and leave the rumination for the end, if it has to be there at all.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 23, 2017 18:48:09 GMT
melbella Tessa and Marius never had a personality, but I feel like Aaron and Vaea got one. You don't think so? Otherwise it would be hard to dislike Vaea for specific actions she does.
Almost everything we learn about Aaron is what other people say about him. He barely speaks in his own voice. This, to me, equates with little to no personality. Vaea is narrating her adventures from a future viewpoint. I'd rather experience the action from a "now" viewpoint and leave the rumination for the end, if it has to be there at all.
Nnnot really true? We see him talk and speak a lot. The only time people speak about him is when they talk about his bio or speculate about the whole Ostagar fight. Everything else? That's him. He's the one telling how awesome his stories are, he's the one drinking, he's the one who looks intently at Vaea and inspires her to play Robin Hood, he's the one who argues with Marquis about tomb raiding and later protecting the honor of his squire and he's the one who comes to her rescue, only to show how badass of a fighter he is and how determined he is to be a decent human being. If that's not personality, I don't know what it is.
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Post by melbella on Sept 23, 2017 19:07:43 GMT
Wow, MT disagrees with my opinion. That's new.
Edit: If it makes you happy, I'll amend my statement from "no personality" to "not an interesting personality."
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 23, 2017 19:26:10 GMT
Wow, MT disagrees with my opinion. That's new.
Edit: If it makes you happy, I'll amend my statement from "no personality" to "not an interesting personality."
Not really sure what's the point of such comment? I disagree with people from time to time, some more than others, and I'm fairly sure I'm not doing it in a manner that would invite petty derision. Also - your opinion about whether you think Aaron lacks interesting personality or not wasn't even the thing I was talking about - what I was pointing out was that the notion 'almost everything we learn about Aaron is what other people say about him. He barely speaks in his own voice' is simply inaccurate. You may not find Aaron interesting, but I don't think it can be claimed that he's more talked about rather than present in the story on his own.
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Post by phoray on Sept 23, 2017 20:19:07 GMT
melbella Tessa and Marius never had a personality, but I feel like Aaron and Vaea got one. You don't think so? Otherwise it would be hard to dislike Vaea for specific actions she does.
Almost everything we learn about Aaron is what other people say about him. He barely speaks in his own voice. This, to me, equates with little to no personality. Vaea is narrating her adventures from a future viewpoint. I'd rather experience the action from a "now" viewpoint and leave the rumination for the end, if it has to be there at all.
I'll have to read again because for some reason I don't recall narrating. Maybe her childhood? It'd be interesting if the Story teller role of Varric's will be handed over to Aaron. Varric is a settled viscount with underwhelming traumatic back story unearthed for everyone. He did call Aaron the other best storyteller and Aaron is landless and mobile. With his backstory shrouded in mystery.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 23, 2017 20:23:11 GMT
Almost everything we learn about Aaron is what other people say about him. He barely speaks in his own voice. This, to me, equates with little to no personality. Vaea is narrating her adventures from a future viewpoint. I'd rather experience the action from a "now" viewpoint and leave the rumination for the end, if it has to be there at all.
I'll have to read again because for some reason I don't recall narrating. Maybe her childhood? It'd be interesting if the Story teller role of Varric's will be handed over to Aaron. Varric is a settled viscount with underwhelming traumatic back story unearthed for everyone. He did call Aaron the other best storyteller and Aaron is landless and mobile. With his backstory shrouded in mystery. I hadn't thought about it, but it's actually possible, that even with the theme of passing the torch to younger generation, Aaron may fall into place of Varric who has now been given a job that doesn't really gel well with adventuring.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 19:52:27 GMT
Do you guys think we will get another comic with Vaea and Ser Aaron, or was the ending a set up for them to show up as followers in the next game. Personally, besides Cole, this is probably the first time I really want new characters that showed up in a comic or a book to be followers in the next game. They are so good!
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Post by Heimdall on Sept 27, 2017 20:00:42 GMT
Do you guys think we will get another comic with Vaea and Ser Aaron, or was the ending a set up for them to show up as followers in the next game. Personally, besides Cole, this is probably the first time I really want new characters that showed up in a comic or a book to be followers in the next game. They are so good! I think we'll get another comic or book before the next game comes out. I'd bet it will take place in Tevinter, Charter will take Vaea, Aaron, Marius, and Tessa there and it will set the stage for their involvement in DA4 (Whether any of them become companions remains to be seen)
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 27, 2017 21:13:23 GMT
Do you guys think we will get another comic with Vaea and Ser Aaron, or was the ending a set up for them to show up as followers in the next game. Personally, besides Cole, this is probably the first time I really want new characters that showed up in a comic or a book to be followers in the next game. They are so good! I think we'll get another comic or book before the next game comes out. I'd bet it will take place in Tevinter, Charter will take Vaea, Aaron, Marius, and Tessa there and it will set the stage for their involvement in DA4 (Whether any of them become companions remains to be seen) Well, hopefully they won't just *cough* Rogue One it...
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Post by phoray on Sept 27, 2017 22:28:39 GMT
Do you guys think we will get another comic with Vaea and Ser Aaron, or was the ending a set up for them to show up as followers in the next game. Personally, besides Cole, this is probably the first time I really want new characters that showed up in a comic or a book to be followers in the next game. They are so good! I think we'll get another comic or book before the next game comes out. I'd bet it will take place in Tevinter, Charter will take Vaea, Aaron, Marius, and Tessa there and it will set the stage for their involvement in DA4 (Whether any of them become companions remains to be seen) Marius was very anti Tevinter, and I'm not certain Magekiller showed him getting over that. What do you think will twist his arm into going there for an extended period of time?
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 27, 2017 22:31:49 GMT
I think we'll get another comic or book before the next game comes out. I'd bet it will take place in Tevinter, Charter will take Vaea, Aaron, Marius, and Tessa there and it will set the stage for their involvement in DA4 (Whether any of them become companions remains to be seen) Marius was very anti Tevinter, and I'm not certain Magekiller showed him getting over that. What do you think will twist his arm into going there for an extended period of time? Because he went to Tevinter on his own when he heard children's life may be in danger. He may hate Tevinter, but if he's motivated enough, he will go. We also have something of a small bonding moment with Dorian, so he and Tess know that they have at least one ally there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 1:58:01 GMT
If Marius wants to stay behind I'm okay with that.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 28, 2017 11:31:44 GMT
Surely if too many characters are brought over from the comics that will leave us with very few original characters to get to know? In previous games the cross-over characters were either not main companions (Duncan and Loghain in DAO) or used sparingly (Cole and Cassandra in DAI). All other main companions were original to the game they were in or carried over from a previous one. In the latter case we still tended to only have one per game. There was Oghran in DAA; Anders in DA2 and Varric in DAI. Leliana was common to all 3 main games but only as a contact/advisor after the first one. Ditto Cullen, although he was never a companion, and Morrigan in DAO and DAI.
If all these characters from the comics were used as companions I would find that very disappointing. I would be less concerned if they were used as short term allies or contacts for specific quests. That worked okay in DAI with people from the novels such as Celene, Gaspard, Briala and Michel, although the main objection to their use was that there was very little character development for people who hadn't read the novels. Nevertheless, if that was used as a means to draw these characters into the plot, that would be okay but leave companion slots open for new people.
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Post by Heimdall on Sept 28, 2017 12:59:03 GMT
At most, I think one or two could become companions, but I could see some taking on roles like Harding in Inquisition, an ally that works separately from us.
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Post by hero11n7 on Sept 28, 2017 13:48:45 GMT
At most, I think one or two could become companions, but I could see some taking on roles like Harding in Inquisition, an ally that works separately from us. I put my money on Ser Aaron and/or Vaea for potential companions. From what little I've seen on the internet, they seem better received than Marius and Tessa (even if only by a little), and I feel they have better potential.
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Post by thats1evildude on Sept 28, 2017 20:13:15 GMT
At most, I think one or two could become companions, but I could see some taking on roles like Harding in Inquisition, an ally that works separately from us. I put my money on Ser Aaron and/or Vaea for potential companions. From what little I've seen on the internet, they seem better received than Marius and Tessa (even if only by a little), and I feel they have better potential. That seems to be my take as well, based on what I've seen of the Dragon Age Reddit.
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