Have Bioware's recent actions changed your mind?

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Beside the forum closure decision?  I'm on neutral ... just waiting.

This has nothing to do with this topic but how did you get 232 posts already?

Nah.. Bioware.. it's important for me to separate liking the company versus liking some of their games.

Over the last decade, I have slowly lost that spark of saying Bioware was the bomb.

The company has made some awesome games. In the reflection of that.. good outlook. As for as Bioware's PR, and things outside of the games themselves.. I don't really care for them. It's hard to explain.

Here is the problem with biovar SJW-ing up. SJWs, who used to be better known as left wing activists, are notorious for infiltrating various organizations in the business, entertainment, and education industries and then attempting to convert, shame, and persecute all opposition.

Once a group of them gets into power they invariably hire more people who share their views and actively exclude those who do not. People who are not ideological leftists (and those who are not at all ideological) are generally not interested in the SJW causes and are more interested in being able to enjoy a particular entertainment medium without being sermonized to by a bunch of college-students-for-life. I think this is why the Marvel films have all been highly successful; while many Marvel comic storylines are packed with tiresome SJW preaching, this has largely been absent from the films (or it is more subtle if it is there), so a wide variety of people can enjoy the films without the partisan headaches.

Here's a fact about SJWs and their groupies. They are a small minority of the population but exert extensive control in the entertainment industry, although they believe everyone either thinks like them, can easily be persuaded to think like them, or is a bunch of drooling rednecks not worth caring about. In the film world, the big studios have mostly figured out they can't beat people over the head with loopy social justice cotton candy (which now is saved for art films) and make money because the large non-SJW segment of the population will eventually give up and stop seeing their movies. But in video games, this (reaping) cycle is just beginning and major producers like EA have not yet taken a hit in the wallet because of SJWs running wild. We will see when or if it begins in the gaming world. I, and a lot of others, look at gaming as escapism and just am not interested in having the cause du jour grinding its nads in my face when I'm trying to defeat evil monsters in some fantasy realm.

For ME:A, Heir may be a rotten trolling Bolshevik asshole but he may be wise enough to not bonk his audience over the head with his political views*; there are a number of actors such as Kevin Costner who are known to be major league lefties but (mostly) keep their politics out of their work for exactly the reasons mentioned above. Mark Ruffalo is a huge SJW lefty but he's respected for playing Hulk/Bruce Banner because he plays the role wonderfully and doesn't look for opportunities to hulk smash activism onto the laps of people buying the movie tickets.

So in summary, SJWs = more SJWs = SJW storylines = SJW hate and lolrage when people don't agree with 100% of the SJW agenda.

We'll see if SJW-developed games sell. As for me, I am waiting to see if some of the few remaining level headed people at biovar convince the SJWs not to go full propaganda mode with the story. If they keep a lid on it I may buy ME:A.

Also see: O'Sullivan's First Law - Any organization that is not actually right wing becomes left wing over time. As its author predicted, it is indeed an eternal truth, even if he never touched a video game.


*Although I doubt it.

But apart from Krem I can't think of anything in a recent Bioware game that comes close to being SJW preaching.

So... SWJ are Cerberus?
or the Team Rocket?
I don't know what to chose...

Despite EVERYTHING us lot are all still the most passionate and vocal BioWare fans on the web are we not? You can try and hide it and lie to yourself but who are you kidding? We all feel the same. Your protests ring hollow, uvenk.

I desparately want to see this franchise survive because it's one of my favorites and one of the few decent sci-fi franchises we have left in mainstream gaming today. It's got Krogan and Biotics. Maybe even Turians. If that doesn't excite you then check your pulse.

Dude keeps hogging all the Ryncol. Maybe we'd get along better if he wasn't so greedy with it.

But there is an "us" in an "us and them" kind'a mind set. I think that you're forgetting about that or think that "all normal people" think that way. They don't. I'm a straight white male, and I'm about as progressive as they come. I'd like for you to show me someone more normal than me.

^BASICALLY THIS.

PoV people always existed. You can see that reading historical sources. Of course they were not (generally) a majority but, as linkosarina says, they were there.

(just nitpicking: an "n" has slipped through. It's Al-Andalus, not An-Andalus )

Here I am just wondering how on earth we get from discussing Bioware's recent actions to ethics concerning Moors and what not..

Right, "no class requires in murdering white people" isn't a racist statement. I'll be sure to consider than when I walk into a predominantly black neighborhood and talk about how you don't need to try too hard to kill black people.