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Post by _Wolf Rider_ on Feb 17, 2017 23:42:50 GMT
I just love that swords are a thing and happening in Mass Effect Andromeda.
What I'm hoping for is a wide range of melee weapon upgrades to pick from.
So far I'm really liking the look of both the Asari Sword and Krogan Hammer. - Wolf
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Post by kaind on Feb 17, 2017 23:52:36 GMT
You might have a super-cool heat-knife, but if you have an automatic rifle firing plasma bolts, realistically the rifle is always going to be more effective. I get that melee weapons are "cool", but that's about the only thing that justifies them. (at least in a setting like ME, WH40K is a slightly different story, even if they also use the rule-of-cool quite a lot) Because closing into melee range is always as potentially dangerous to the attacker as it is to the enemy. (an enemy could grab your weapon, etc.) So you think you would more likely survive a lightsaber ( type weapon ) slash as opposed to a few rounds from a blaster?
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Post by Cypher on Feb 17, 2017 23:55:48 GMT
You do realize that armed services train people in the use of firearms and melee combat, right? And melee combat training has melee weapons, right? Do you realize that many in the armed services use their mini field shovel things as melee weapons, right? Melee weapons aren't obsolete. Sword fighting as the primary means of combat is obsolete, getting up close isn't. I should file a complaint with the US government. Apparently during my stint in the Marines, I missed all those cool fencing lessons. Sorry to burst your bubble, but modern military personnel have better things to do with their time than being trained to use obsolete weapons. You do get trained to use the bayonet, but the key factor there is that it attaches to your rifle, and doesn't replace it. Where did say anything about fencing? No one is going out there training people how to be ninjas with assault rifles.
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Post by spacebeetle on Feb 17, 2017 23:56:20 GMT
When you want to melt steel fast you use a welding machine not a flamerthrower. If futuristic melee weapons pack more power due to not wasting it on projecting that power, then if you have futuristic ways of moving around that don't put you in much danger like complete cloak or super fast ways like biotic charge, then I see no problem why you couldn't get up close and personal with someone. There a couple issues with melee weapons that make them implausible. The first is there is literally nothing a a melee weapon does that a firearm shouldn't be able to do better. Why trade a shotgun or assault rifle for example, for a sword which should be no more deadly at close range than those firearms, and comes packed with the added limitations of relying entirely on muscle power and only being useful when eyeball-to-eyeball with an enemy? Firearms have much greater range, up to hundreds or even a 1000 or more meters, and should be much more deadly both at range and up close, particularly when enemies wear body armor capable of deflecting rounds travelling at more than 1,200 meters per second (the average speed of a modern bullet fired from a rifle...presumably ME rounds are travelling much faster). I realize that. I said as much in my earlier post. Melee weapons have been a thing since ME3. Obsolete not really... I concede they are surpassed though in many ways, but at least 2. 1) Silent approach. If you have to kill without giving away your position, blades should still be better. Silencers do their job, but even then, you need to be pretty far from the target to remain unnoticed. A knife when used right (I mean in a pragmatic way, not as an elegant weapon for a more civilized age) is a lot less… messy. Theoretically, ofc. 2) CQC Offering less catchable surface, blades are still slightly superior in very close encounters. People normally don’t try to grab a blade. But they can do it with a pistol, and break your fingers if they overpower the grip you have on your pistol, especially the index. Also, in CQC a pistol can be disarmed if you have agile fingers. Last, being lighter, the hand that use a blade tend to reach the target faster than a pistol toting one. And finally, are we really debating the plausibility of melee combat in a universe where we have biotic powers? Why not grenades spam at this point, bypassing shields and barriers? On this matter, I really don’t think we should pose any limitation: let everyone have his/her favourite poison. Personally? I would love to see biotic bare handed combat: if I can lift 9 tons, I should be more than able to crush necks with my force choke.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Feb 17, 2017 23:58:23 GMT
I liked the look of the asari sword in the combat trailer #1.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 0:07:14 GMT
I should file a complaint with the US government. Apparently during my stint in the Marines, I missed all those cool fencing lessons. Sorry to burst your bubble, but modern military personnel have better things to do with their time than being trained to use obsolete weapons. You do get trained to use the bayonet, but the key factor there is that it attaches to your rifle, and doesn't replace it. Where did say anything about fencing? No one is going out there training people how to be ninjas with assault rifles. I should probably clarify. I'm not against *all* melee weapons. I'd be fine with Sci Fi bayonets attached to assault rifles, or characters using an ability-based melee attack if an enemy was in their face. I'm just not a fan of characters having melee weapons as their sole or primary weapon, like Kai Leng and the Phantoms using swords, or Liam running around with a knife in each hand. Melee weapons are obsolete in that respect, and have been since at least the 19th Century. Modern firearms have rendered them so. I do realize however that melee weapons are a part of the setting, and have been since Mass Effect 3. I also realize they're not going away, so I've accepted it. I'm just never going to like it.
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Post by kaind on Feb 18, 2017 0:12:11 GMT
Where did say anything about fencing? No one is going out there training people how to be ninjas with assault rifles. I should probably clarify. I'm not against *all* melee weapons. I'd be fine with Sci Fi bayonets attached to assault rifles, or characters using an ability-based melee attack if an enemy was in their face. I'm just not a fan of characters having melee weapons as their sole or primary weapon, like Kai Leng and the Phantoms using swords, or Liam running around with a knife in each hand. Melee weapons are obsolete in that respect, and have been since at least the 19th Century. Modern firearms have rendered them so. I do realize however that melee weapons are a part of the setting, and have been since Mass Effect 3. I also realize they're not going away, so I've accepted it. I'm just never going to like it. Kai Leng and Phantoms used phase disruptor as their primary weapon.
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Post by sageoflife on Feb 18, 2017 0:17:41 GMT
You do realize that armed services train people in the use of firearms and melee combat, right? And melee combat training has melee weapons, right? Do you realize that many in the armed services use their mini field shovel things as melee weapons, right? Melee weapons aren't obsolete. Sword fighting as the primary means of combat is obsolete, getting up close isn't. I should file a complaint with the US government. Apparently during my stint in the Marines, I missed all those cool fencing lessons. Sorry to burst your bubble, but modern military personnel have better things to do with their time than being trained to use obsolete weapons. You do get trained to use the bayonet, but the key factor there is that it attaches to your rifle, and doesn't replace it. You didn't even have a knife or anything?
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Post by souljahbill14 on Feb 18, 2017 0:17:44 GMT
I'm holding out hope that backhand shield bash is still a thing. It's my favorite part of playing as an N7 Paladin in ME3MP.
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Post by kaind on Feb 18, 2017 0:40:14 GMT
So you think you would more likely survive a lightsaber ( type weapon ) slash as opposed to a few rounds from a blaster? Funnily enough yes, most people seen in the SW movies are dead after one blaster bolt, conversely, many people survived a strike from a Lightsaber, only losing a hand, etc. But in reality SW technology is simply designed around the relationship between blasters and a Lightsaber's ability to deflect their bolts. If the Jedi didn't have precognition and super-speed, they wouldn't be able to deflect blaster bolts, and closing to melee range suddenly wouldn't be such a great idea. Eh, fair enough you've convinced me.
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Post by SKAR on Feb 18, 2017 0:48:46 GMT
Where did say anything about fencing? No one is going out there training people how to be ninjas with assault rifles. I should probably clarify. I'm not against *all* melee weapons. I'd be fine with Sci Fi bayonets attached to assault rifles, or characters using an ability-based melee attack if an enemy was in their face. I'm just not a fan of characters having melee weapons as their sole or primary weapon, like Kai Leng and the Phantoms using swords, or Liam running around with a knife in each hand. Melee weapons are obsolete in that respect, and have been since at least the 19th Century. Modern firearms have rendered them so. I do realize however that melee weapons are a part of the setting, and have been since Mass Effect 3. I also realize they're not going away, so I've accepted it. I'm just never going to like it. When did you serve?I just want to clarify that hand to hand combat will always be important. My martial arts instructor is a former marine and Camp Pendleton kickboxing champion. There was LINE, now there is MCMAP. Basic hand to hand skills but I give kudos to the IDF for training all of their soldiers in Krav Maga. I mean, you wouldn't want to get your butt handed to you by an enemy combatant? Lose your firearm, you switch to whatever you have at your disposal, you have nothing you switch to your hands. There should be an extra emphasis on hand to hand in the military cause I guarantee our soldiers can get their butts handed to them by a well trained combatant. You pit a BJJ black belt or a skilled wrestler, they would whoop a soldier or marine. Our guys need to be ready for that. We live in a world where there is an MMA school around every corner. Same goes for Law Enforcement personnel as well. But I apologize for getting off topic, if you want to continue this line of thought then message me.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 18, 2017 1:11:41 GMT
How do you feel about them? What would you like to see? Are there melee combos where we can press the melee button multiple times to attack or is it just a one time attack with the same animation each time?? Would be nice if it acted as a legit melee item
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Feb 18, 2017 2:12:13 GMT
I love the idea of melee weapons, I hope we can craft some. I'm not keen on stuff like swords and hammers - dedicated melee weapons you have to lug about and which would be awkward to switch with your gun don't really make much sense to me. I'd like to see bayonets, because bayonets make a lot of sense, and I'm OK with omniblades. Bayonets aren't as awesome as they seem, I own rifles and for two of them I have a bayonet. I tell you, you don't want to be lugging a rifle around with the bayonet attached unless there is going to be a massed infantry charge at any moment. Not only does it make the gun a LOT longer making moving around with it very hard, especially indoors when moving around corners, the heavy bayonet on the end of the barrel also drastically slows down target acquisition because swinging the gun around becomes a lot harder. Last but not least the rifle becomes very tiresome to hold. There is a reason troops fixed bayonets only moments before a charge or to defend themselves from a wave attack.
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Post by missileglitcher on Feb 18, 2017 8:23:20 GMT
i absolutely love melee weapons and will definitely be spending a lot of time with them in multiplayer...unless they're not in multiplayer then i'll be really sad
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Post by DayusMakhina on Feb 18, 2017 9:17:39 GMT
Hate the idea of melee weapons that aren't 'flash forged' by an Omni tool, or just pure Biotics as i've always hated the visual of a melee weapon just suddenly appearing. I mean seriously, where are you putting that Samurai sword or Hammer when you're not using it?
That said, i'm happy they are in the game as there has always been clamour for them, tis just I will simply ignore them. I do hope though we get a variety of different biotic melees.
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Post by armass81 on Feb 18, 2017 9:50:41 GMT
I hope we have turian nightshade blades that poison. At least in the MP. Loved that weapon as a turian cabal.
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Post by spacebeetle on Feb 18, 2017 9:52:44 GMT
i absolutely love melee weapons and will definitely be spending a lot of time with them in multiplayer...unless they're not in multiplayer then i'll be really sad The only melee you need in multiplayer is an headbutt. If you're not playing Krogan, you're doing it wrong... and this time around, we have Krogan vanguards with nova. Claymore shotguns are the less lethal alternative...
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Post by snorkamus on Feb 18, 2017 10:01:05 GMT
Ahh Bruce Lee's favorite saying..
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 18, 2017 10:03:42 GMT
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Post by Wulfram on Feb 18, 2017 11:53:24 GMT
I love the idea of melee weapons, I hope we can craft some. I'm not keen on stuff like swords and hammers - dedicated melee weapons you have to lug about and which would be awkward to switch with your gun don't really make much sense to me. I'd like to see bayonets, because bayonets make a lot of sense, and I'm OK with omniblades. Bayonets aren't as awesome as they seem, I own rifles and for two of them I have a bayonet. I tell you, you don't want to be lugging a rifle around with the bayonet attached unless there is going to be a massed infantry charge at any moment. Not only does it make the gun a LOT longer making moving around with it very hard, especially indoors when moving around corners, the heavy bayonet on the end of the barrel also drastically slows down target acquisition because swinging the gun around becomes a lot harder. Last but not least the rifle becomes very tiresome to hold. There is a reason troops fixed bayonets only moments before a charge or to defend themselves from a wave attack. An Omni-Bayonet you can activate at will would fix most of those issues, I guess?
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Post by misoandricegamer on Feb 18, 2017 13:16:36 GMT
Just give me a pencil John Wick style.
"I once saw John kill 3 men in a bar with a pencil... a fucking pencil!"
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 18, 2017 14:42:09 GMT
Nothing beats the Pathfinder life, stabbing folk with my Pathfinder knife. I cannot wait to cut fools in the field.
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Post by Sailears on Feb 18, 2017 15:12:53 GMT
I'd like to see: Bare handed options for biotics with suitable damage enhancements through upgrades - palm strike, biotic punch, kick chain, AIU uppercut, Fury melee chain etc... Usual swords like N7 Shadow's weapon Omni-Tool melee options - flaming backhands, demolisher punch, paladin's shield, etc... And of course Krogan headbutts, hammers and backhands! Tbh I'd be happy just to see all of those back with more options for upgrading and evolving different melee abilities.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 18, 2017 15:14:38 GMT
Nothing beats the Pathfinder life, stabbing folk with my Pathfinder knife. I cannot wait to cut fools in the field. "KaiserShep, an up and coming rapper, said in a recent interview that..."lol it's a reference to this:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 15:16:01 GMT
How do you feel about them? What would you like to see? Omnisabers, of course. Or, like misoandricegamer said, pencils.
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