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Post by Andrew Lucas on Feb 23, 2017 4:56:01 GMT
Oh, I wasn't really trying to make a statement on Bioware using models and claiming to represent everyone. I was mostly just cherry picking the photo of the model herself because I really didn't like that particular photo, lol. Now that you've both mentioned it though, that is kinda of suspicious. Though I still think Sara looks genuinely prettier than the model they based her off of, I'm not delusional enough to believe a fucking super model isn't considered the epitome of beauty standards... I mean, they wouldn't get any work, otherwise. That does beg the question, though, as to why Bioware seems to make so many traditionally attractive male characters, while having so many non traditionally attractive females. I hate to even entertain the idea of the SJW conspiracy theories being even remotely true, but it's a better explanation than anything I can come up with, at least. I really can't think of any particular reason as to why the guys all look like what they're supposed to, and the girls don't. And hey, Shepard's creeper face is still more attractive than any face Sera makes. Ick. I do think BioWare consciously makes their female characters look more "realistic", because they know that their female fans want to see realistic women in the games. It's a positive thing that harms no one, despite internet raging. I think the make characters still look like models and super-heroes because male fans prefer playing as such. Meanwhile, you won't hear the women complaining if the guys are content. Why should they? But Jayde is realistic. In more ways than one.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 23, 2017 4:58:57 GMT
I was mostly goofing around, but now that it's been said, I can't help but wonder what it would be like in a universe where Andromeda had an incest romance option, lol. Japanese games have it fairly often, even in their localizations, so it's not like no one would buy it, but I'm doubtful any of those have been AAA releases here in the west. I figured you were being facetious. I was just entertaining the idea. Japan has always been far more "sexually progressive" than the rest of the world, for better or for worse. Being that I actually have a sister, the idea of actually being with her romantically is rather repulsive to me. That being said, from a fictional storytelling perspective, anyway, it's certainly unique. I doubt BioWare would ever be able to get away with that kind of a story, as I could see a lot of ratings organizations from various countries banning the game due to the nature of the content. I think social norms and cultural differences would likely get in the way of what many would likely consider taboo. Who knows though? BioWare is always trying to push boundaries. Perhaps a sibling incest romance option isn't too farfetched... Yikes, that just doesn't sound right when I type it lol.
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Oh, I wasn't really trying to make a statement on Bioware using models and claiming to represent everyone. I was mostly just cherry picking the photo of the model herself because I really didn't like that particular photo, lol. Now that you've both mentioned it though, that is kinda of suspicious. Though I still think Sara looks genuinely prettier than the model they based her off of, I'm not delusional enough to believe a fucking super model isn't considered the epitome of beauty standards... I mean, they wouldn't get any work, otherwise. That does beg the question, though, as to why Bioware seems to make so many traditionally attractive male characters, while having so many non traditionally attractive females. I hate to even entertain the idea of the SJW conspiracy theories being even remotely true, but it's a better explanation than anything I can come up with, at least. I really can't think of any particular reason as to why the guys all look like what they're supposed to, and the girls don't. And hey, Shepard's creeper face is still more attractive than any face Sera makes. Ick. I do think BioWare consciously makes their female characters look more "realistic", because they know that their female fans want to see realistic women in the games. It's a positive thing that harms no one, despite internet raging. I think the make characters still look like models and super-heroes because male fans prefer playing as such. Meanwhile, you won't hear the women complaining if the guys are content. Why should they? Hmm... I'll half agree. I would really like more slim body types on my male characters. I've noticed that female MCs never have a lot of muscle in these games, even though it would be more realistic, and wouldn't even fit into the stereotypical beauty standard. I'd like if I didn't have to be built like a golem in every Bioware game. Ryder is a bit better than Shepard, though I hope his proportions aren't as off as they appeared to be in some of the photos.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 23, 2017 5:02:27 GMT
I do think BioWare consciously makes their female characters look more "realistic", because they know that their female fans want to see realistic women in the games. It's a positive thing that harms no one, despite internet raging. I think the make characters still look like models and super-heroes because male fans prefer playing as such. Meanwhile, you won't hear the women complaining if the guys are content. Why should they? But Jayde is realistic. In more ways than one. I don't mean to single her out, by any means. Jayde is lovely. (She apparently acts, too. Someone posted a link to a film in which she appears.) I'm speaking in general about the less glamorous, modelesque, or exceedingly beautiful (or however one wants to describe it) characters we've started seeing. They've been on the nice side of average looking, in my opinion, which works just fine. If it's truly helping women feel more confident and content in their own skins, that's great.
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Post by darcon on Feb 23, 2017 5:04:54 GMT
I do think BioWare consciously makes their female characters look more "realistic", because they know that their female fans want to see realistic women in the games. It's a positive thing that harms no one, despite internet raging. I think the make characters still look like models and super-heroes because male fans prefer playing as such. Meanwhile, you won't hear the women complaining if the guys are content. Why should they? Hmm... I'll half agree. I would really like more slim body types on my male characters. I've noticed that female MCs never have a lot of muscle in these games, even though it would be more realistic, and wouldn't even fit into the stereotypical beauty standard. I'd like if I didn't have to be built like a golem in every Bioware game. Ryder is a bit better than Shepard, though I hope his proportions aren't as off as they appeared to be in some of the photos. Same for me, people rage about everything if you look for it but many times (like now) people are complaining about the same thing but for different reasons nothing really to do with men or women complaining just plain complaints. Don't ask me why but I would love to see some of the women in MassEffect with some abs
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 5:05:14 GMT
I was mostly goofing around, but now that it's been said, I can't help but wonder what it would be like in a universe where Andromeda had an incest romance option, lol. Japanese games have it fairly often, even in their localizations, so it's not like no one would buy it, but I'm doubtful any of those have been AAA releases here in the west. I figured you were being facetious. I was just entertaining the idea. Japan has always been far more "sexually progressive" than the rest of the world, for better or for worse. Being that I actually have a sister, the idea of actually being with her romantically is rather repulsive to me. That being said, from a fictional storytelling perspective, anyway, it's certainly unique. I doubt BioWare would ever be able to get away with that kind of a story, as I could see a lot of ratings organizations from various countries banning the game due to the nature of the content. I think social norms and cultural differences would likely get in the way of what many would likely consider taboo. Who knows though? BioWare is always trying to push boundaries. Perhaps a sibling incest romance option isn't too farfetched... Yikes, that just doesn't sound right when I type it lol. It's weird how sexually progressive Japan is, considering they censor their own pornography. It really does defy logic. But yeah, I also have a sister, and a brother, but I've never thought of fucking them, lmao. From a storytelling perspective, I'd be interested to see it, though. Also just out of morbid curiosity. Taboo things tend to be more interesting than retreaded ground, honestly. That's fair though, ratings are a lot more conservative in some places than the US, and we're already pretty prude. Though, I remember seeing dicks a few times in recent years, so it seems people are pushing what they can get away with. I always thought that was an immediate AO rating. Haha, this conversation feels dirty. >.>
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Hmm... I'll half agree. I would really like more slim body types on my male characters. I've noticed that female MCs never have a lot of muscle in these games, even though it would be more realistic, and wouldn't even fit into the stereotypical beauty standard. I'd like if I didn't have to be built like a golem in every Bioware game. Ryder is a bit better than Shepard, though I hope his proportions aren't as off as they appeared to be in some of the photos. Same for me, people rage about everything if you look for it but many times (like now) people are complaining about the same thing but for different reasons nothing really to do with men or women complaining just plain complaints. Don't ask me why but I would love to see some of the women in MassEffect with some abs Aveline is the true unsung hero of Bioware games. RIP Muscle Maiden.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 23, 2017 5:07:48 GMT
I do think BioWare consciously makes their female characters look more "realistic", because they know that their female fans want to see realistic women in the games. It's a positive thing that harms no one, despite internet raging. I think the make characters still look like models and super-heroes because male fans prefer playing as such. Meanwhile, you won't hear the women complaining if the guys are content. Why should they? Hmm... I'll half agree. I would really like more slim body types on my male characters. I've noticed that female MCs never have a lot of muscle in these games, even though it would be more realistic, and wouldn't even fit into the stereotypical beauty standard. I'd like if I didn't have to be built like a golem in every Bioware game. Ryder is a bit better than Shepard, though I hope his proportions aren't as off as they appeared to be in some of the photos. I don't need to play a superman, either, but some were freaking about Scott's build. Even before that weird character kit, he got called puny a few times. He has a very v-shaped torso, and looks extremely athletic, despite being less "action hero" in appearance. Maybe we'll get a body slider, next time?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 5:13:10 GMT
Hmm... I'll half agree. I would really like more slim body types on my male characters. I've noticed that female MCs never have a lot of muscle in these games, even though it would be more realistic, and wouldn't even fit into the stereotypical beauty standard. I'd like if I didn't have to be built like a golem in every Bioware game. Ryder is a bit better than Shepard, though I hope his proportions aren't as off as they appeared to be in some of the photos. I don't need to play a superman, either, but some were freaking about Scott's build. Even before that weird character kit, he got called puny a few times. He has a very v-shaped torso, and looks extremely athletic, despite being less "action hero" in appearance. Maybe we'll get a body slider, next time? It really just goes to show that you can't please everyone, haha. Although I find it strange how Bioware fans are so interested in playing supermen. Maybe that's just because I'm also in the anime fandom, so I'm used to guys all being androgynous. Body sliders, for sure though, please.
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Post by darcon on Feb 23, 2017 5:13:55 GMT
Hmm... I'll half agree. I would really like more slim body types on my male characters. I've noticed that female MCs never have a lot of muscle in these games, even though it would be more realistic, and wouldn't even fit into the stereotypical beauty standard. I'd like if I didn't have to be built like a golem in every Bioware game. Ryder is a bit better than Shepard, though I hope his proportions aren't as off as they appeared to be in some of the photos. I don't need to play a superman, either, but some were freaking about Scott's build. Even before that weird character kit, he got called puny a few times. He has a very v-shaped torso, and looks extremely athletic, despite being less "action hero" in appearance. Maybe we'll get a body slider, next time? I didn't really see him being puny and i'm a large guy. I haven't personally seen these complaints but they sound more like people complaining for the sake of it, still a small body slider might be nice over all but that can be a big waist when the resources can go towards other things like squadmates or the 'love' scenes
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 23, 2017 5:22:04 GMT
It's weird how sexually progressive Japan is, considering they censor their own pornography. It really does defy logic. But yeah, I also have a sister, and a brother, but I've never thought of fucking them, lmao. From a storytelling perspective, I'd be interested to see it, though. Also just out of morbid curiosity. Taboo things tend to be more interesting than retreaded ground, honestly. That's fair though, ratings are a lot more conservative in some places than the US, and we're already pretty prude. Though, I remember seeing dicks a few times in recent years, so it seems people are pushing what they can get away with. I always thought that was an immediate AO rating. Haha, this conversation feels dirty. >.> What's ironic about Japan's censorship laws is the United States is actually to blame for that. After the Empire of Japan was defeated in WWII, we essentially forced upon Japan their current constitution, laws, as well as their system of government. The censorship laws were just a consequence of our own puritanical views on obscenity, to my knowledge. For whatever reason, Japan hasn't done away with them. This is the country that actually celebrates and parades around with a giant penis in the streets after all... I do agree it's far more interesting to take risks and try concepts others may find unsettling. Of course, you can only go but so far until you'll probably get in trouble for the "sake of art." As far as ratings are concerned, there is actually nothing wrong with showing a penis or a vagina in-game based on my understanding of ESRB ratings, at least. Rockstar loves to places penises all over in their games, although it's rarely for gratuity's sake. Even BioWare, of all studios, actually rendered a vagina on banshees in ME3. Ubisoft did it more recently in Watch_Dogs 2, although it was removed due to criticism. What will get you an AO rating, however, is if you actually show penetration in sexual intercourse. That's why the farthest The Witcher 3 ever went was clever camera angles, showing more or less everything except the penetration. Also, a game like Hatred can get an AO rating due to the severe amount of violence and the fact it's a serial killer simulator. This is certainly the most unique conversation I've had on BSN so far.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 5:32:36 GMT
It's weird how sexually progressive Japan is, considering they censor their own pornography. It really does defy logic. But yeah, I also have a sister, and a brother, but I've never thought of fucking them, lmao. From a storytelling perspective, I'd be interested to see it, though. Also just out of morbid curiosity. Taboo things tend to be more interesting than retreaded ground, honestly. That's fair though, ratings are a lot more conservative in some places than the US, and we're already pretty prude. Though, I remember seeing dicks a few times in recent years, so it seems people are pushing what they can get away with. I always thought that was an immediate AO rating. Haha, this conversation feels dirty. >.> What's ironic about Japan's censorship laws is the United States is actually to blame for that. After the Empire of Japan was defeated in WWII, we essentially forced upon Japan their current constitution, laws, as well as their system of government. The censorship laws were just a consequence of our own puritanical views on obscenity, to my knowledge. For whatever reason, Japan hasn't done away with them. This is the country that actually celebrates and parades around with a giant penis in the streets after all... I do agree it's far more interesting to take risks and try concepts others may find unsettling. Of course, you can only go but so far until you'll probably get in trouble for the "sake of art." As far as ratings are concerned, there is actually nothing wrong with showing a penis or a vagina in-game based on my understanding of ESRB ratings, at least. Rockstar loves to places penises all over in their games, although it's rarely for gratuity's sake. Even BioWare, of all studios, actually rendered a vagina on banshees in ME3. Ubisoft did it more recently in Watch_Dogs 2, although it was removed due to criticism. What will get you an AO rating, however, is if you actually show penetration in sexual intercourse. That's why the farthest The Witcher 3 ever went was clever camera angles, showing more or less everything except the penetration. Also, a game like Hatred can get an AO rating due to the severe amount of violence and the fact it's a serial killer simulator. This is certainly the most unique conversation I've had on BSN so far. I didn't know that, actually. Does that mean there was a time where we censored porn? Seems unthinkable. Wtf would even be the point in porn? Lmao. I feel as long as it was done maturely it would be incredibly difficult to actually justify any kind of drastic action, like recalling the game or something. Like, controversy, sure, but how many people are going to flat out refuse to buy something because of optional content they don't like? As long as it's done well, it'll ultimately succeed. I mean, GoT has plenty of rape and incest and no one is leading a crusade against it. Or rather, no one's leading a successful one. That's also surprising, though. I guess it makes sense, now that you mention it, but I always kinda figured Rockstar got special privileges for being constantly controversial, in the same respects as South Park, while Bioware got away with it just because it was pretty sneaky, and most didn't notice it until after launch, lol. Also thought it might have been like saying "fuck" in a PG-13 movie. You get one freebie, and then it's an R rating. Outlast gets one penis, then it becomes AO. Something like that. Idk, haha. Definitely "unique", yes. Still doesn't beat that "What does Tali's sweat taste like?" thread of old BSN though. Never forget.
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Post by zaefkol on Feb 23, 2017 5:46:47 GMT
Hmm... I'll half agree. I would really like more slim body types on my male characters. I've noticed that female MCs never have a lot of muscle in these games, even though it would be more realistic, and wouldn't even fit into the stereotypical beauty standard. I'd like if I didn't have to be built like a golem in every Bioware game. Ryder is a bit better than Shepard, though I hope his proportions aren't as off as they appeared to be in some of the photos. I don't need to play a superman, either, but some were freaking about Scott's build. Even before that weird character kit, he got called puny a few times. He has a very v-shaped torso, and looks extremely athletic, despite being less "action hero" in appearance. Maybe we'll get a body slider, next time? My ideal character creator would combine something like DA:I's for the face but with better hair and something like Saints Row's for the body.
Bulge slider FTW.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 5:56:22 GMT
I don't need to play a superman, either, but some were freaking about Scott's build. Even before that weird character kit, he got called puny a few times. He has a very v-shaped torso, and looks extremely athletic, despite being less "action hero" in appearance. Maybe we'll get a body slider, next time? My ideal character creator would combine something like DA:I's for the face but with better hair and something like Saints Row's for the body.
Bulge slider FTW.
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Post by Dazzle on Feb 23, 2017 6:03:19 GMT
I really think she looks lovely there! This is what they should have shown before, its a much better picture and she doesn't look as bad as many other times we have seen her, also correct me if i'm wrong but her cheeks don't look nearly as puffy (best description I could think of) as they do in the previous gameplay or other marketing. You're quite right, her cheeks are definitely toned down. This is a protagI can get behind! As long as the face animations are as improved, I'll be happy.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 23, 2017 6:11:50 GMT
I didn't know that, actually. Does that mean there was a time where we censored porn? Seems unthinkable. Wtf would even be the point in porn? Lmao. I feel as long as it was done maturely it would be incredibly difficult to actually justify any kind of drastic action, like recalling the game or something. Like, controversy, sure, but how many people are going to flat out refuse to buy something because of optional content they don't like? As long as it's done well, it'll ultimately succeed. I mean, GoT has plenty of rape and incest and no one is leading a crusade against it. Or rather, no one's leading a successful one. That's also surprising, though. I guess it makes sense, now that you mention it, but I always kinda figured Rockstar got special privileges for being constantly controversial, in the same respects as South Park, while Bioware got away with it just because it was pretty sneaky, and most didn't notice it until after launch, lol. Also thought it might have been like saying "fuck" in a PG-13 movie. You get one freebie, and then it's an R rating. Outlast gets one penis, then it becomes AO. Something like that. Idk, haha. Definitely "unique", yes. Still doesn't beat that "What does Tali's sweat taste like?" thread of old BSN though. Never forget. Just did some research to make sure. The actual censorship laws apparently come from a Japanese Penal Code that was written in 1907 during the Empire of Japan, but when we went into Japan and occupied them, we got rid of most of the censorship in Japan, besides on pornography. They also couldn't say anything negative about the United States government or any of the other Allied powers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Japan#CensorshipAs far as pornography is concerned, obscenity was a huge issue from the 50s to the 70s in the United States Supreme Court. Anything that was considered "obscene" was construed as unconstitutional, making it illegal. Eventually, pornography was interpreted as being protected free speech, so almost all forms of pornography are constitutional. The only obvious exception would be child pornography. Playboy, ironically enough, was actually one of the major driving forces for modernizing obscenity laws in the 50s. Going back to censorship in Japan, the law doesn't even seem to be enforced that often as rarely anyone is actually charged with a crime if they happen to violate it. Game of Thrones is a good example. I think since it's on HBO and is television, they are able to get away with a bit more. It would probably be harder for a video game to justify such actions. I remember Fox News was bashing the first Mass Effect for having full frontal nudity... The most that was in the game was side boob... If the romance was done well and wasn't overly sexual, BioWare might be able to get away with it. The only time Rockstar really got in trouble was because of the Hot Coffee mod in GTA San Andreas, which featured a fully simulated sex game showing penetration and all. That game had to be recalled and all those versions were re-rated as AO. I remember that thread. There were so many troll threads on BSN, I honestly was surprised to ever see a "normal" one. Anyway, at the very least I'm hoping that the sibling dynamic is believable and really adds to the story. This is the first time a BioWare game has ever made the other gender protagonist the sibling, so it should be interesting to see how that fits into the narrative.
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I didn't know that, actually. Does that mean there was a time where we censored porn? Seems unthinkable. Wtf would even be the point in porn? Lmao. I feel as long as it was done maturely it would be incredibly difficult to actually justify any kind of drastic action, like recalling the game or something. Like, controversy, sure, but how many people are going to flat out refuse to buy something because of optional content they don't like? As long as it's done well, it'll ultimately succeed. I mean, GoT has plenty of rape and incest and no one is leading a crusade against it. Or rather, no one's leading a successful one. That's also surprising, though. I guess it makes sense, now that you mention it, but I always kinda figured Rockstar got special privileges for being constantly controversial, in the same respects as South Park, while Bioware got away with it just because it was pretty sneaky, and most didn't notice it until after launch, lol. Also thought it might have been like saying "fuck" in a PG-13 movie. You get one freebie, and then it's an R rating. Outlast gets one penis, then it becomes AO. Something like that. Idk, haha. Definitely "unique", yes. Still doesn't beat that "What does Tali's sweat taste like?" thread of old BSN though. Never forget. Just did some research to make sure. The actual censorship laws apparently come from a Japanese Penal Code that was written in 1907 during the Empire of Japan, but when we went into Japan and occupied them, we got rid of most of the censorship in Japan, besides on pornography. They also couldn't say anything negative about the United States government or any of the other Allied powers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Japan#CensorshipAs far as pornography is concerned, obscenity was a huge issue from the 50s to the 70s in the United States Supreme Court. Anything that was considered "obscene" was construed as unconstitutional, making it illegal. Eventually, pornography was interpreted as being protected free speech, so almost all forms of pornography are constitutional. The only obvious exception would be child pornography. Playboy, ironically enough, was actually one of the major driving forces for modernizing obscenity laws in the 50s. Going back to censorship in Japan, the law doesn't even seem to be enforced that often as rarely anyone is actually charged with a crime if they happen to violate it. Game of Thrones is a good example. I think since it's on HBO and is television, they are able to get away with a bit more. It would probably be harder for a video game to justify such actions. I remember Fox News was bashing the first Mass Effect for having full frontal nudity... The most that was in the game was side boob... If the romance was done well and wasn't overly sexual, BioWare might be able to get away with it. The only time Rockstar really got in trouble was because of the Hot Coffee mod in GTA San Andreas, which featured a fully simulated sex game showing penetration and all. That game had to be recalled and all those versions were re-rated as AO. I remember that thread. There were so many troll threads on BSN, I honestly was surprised to ever see a "normal" one. Anyway, at the very least I'm hoping that the sibling dynamic is believable and really adds to the story. This is the first time a BioWare game has ever made the other gender protagonist the sibling, so it should be interesting to see how that fits into the narrative. I'm also pretty excited to see how it works out. I'm legitimately gonna need to put the game down and take a break if the Ryder sibling gets shafted within the first few moments of the game, after how much they've emphasized a sibling dynamic, as well as me hyping myself up for it.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 23, 2017 6:32:19 GMT
I'm also pretty excited to see how it works out. I'm legitimately gonna need to put the game down and take a break if the Ryder sibling gets shafted within the first few moments of the game, after how much they've emphasized a sibling dynamic, as well as me hyping myself up for it. I actually think the sibling banter will be one of the highlights of the game, considering the BroRyder and SisRyder voice actors know each other in life and are really good friends. I'm a bit concerned about how the other sibling is taken out of the picture early on, but we know one of the major subplots of the game is about the Ryder family. Hopefully, we'll get plenty of this goodness:
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Post by ProbeAway on Feb 23, 2017 6:32:41 GMT
A comment on one of the numerous articles summed this whole issue up well. BioWare's frequent defense has been wanting to portray a "realistic" and "average joe" aesthetic. To which this comment (and I) say, "why did you hire two super models then?" They come across entirely hypocritical when Scott looks quite similar to his model and Sara looks like the designers were drunk. Now I do want to clarify, I actually don't find Sara ugly, but she isn't close to who she's based off. If BioWare wants to go in that direction, by all means. Just own it. Don't give me this spiel of realism when you hire this as your "average woman" character model. I'm not really convinced about that argument. Firstly, I don't think Bioware is trying to create characters who look 'average'. I certainly don't recall them using that wording, although I could be wrong. To me, they seem to be going for the whole 'attractive-but-not-ridiculously-attractive' thing. Despite the protests about her being ugly, when you put the animation issues to one side and look at pics like the one released today, she's much better looking than your average person. She's just more girl-next-door than she is Hollywood. IMO that's a good thing but obviously not everyone will agree. Secondly, it's probably much easier to start with a classically beautiful, symmetrical, 'blank slate' face and tweak it into something you want than it is to find a less attractive model who closely resmbles what you're envisioning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 6:38:29 GMT
I'm also pretty excited to see how it works out. I'm legitimately gonna need to put the game down and take a break if the Ryder sibling gets shafted within the first few moments of the game, after how much they've emphasized a sibling dynamic, as well as me hyping myself up for it. I actually think the sibling banter will be one of the highlights of the game, considering the BroRyder and SisRyder voice actors know each other in life and are really good friends. I'm a bit concerned about how the other sibling is taken out of the picture early on, but we know one of the major subplots of the game is about the Ryder family. Hopefully, we'll get plenty of this goodness: I admit, I wasn't expecting Fryda to be the crazy sibling, lol. Figured she was the bookish type. Poor Tom, lmao.
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Post by clips7 on Feb 23, 2017 7:01:20 GMT
I didn't see this posted in this thread, apologies if it already has been: Adorable. Hmmm...not sure what happened, but where is this from? This certainly wasn't in the latest trailer correct? In any case Sara looks great here!....
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 23, 2017 7:21:14 GMT
I didn't see this posted in this thread, apologies if it already has been: Adorable. Hmmm...not sure what happened, but where is this from? This certainly wasn't in the latest trailer correct? In any case Sara looks great here!.... If I had to guess, the source was this German PC gaming site. I believe it was released today. It's probably one of the screenshots the gaming media obtained from BioWare for the embargo lift that's going to happen Friday morning: www.computerbild.de/fotos/cbs-Vorschau-PC-Mass-Effect-Andromeda-Bilder-Screenshots-17385715.html#7
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Feb 23, 2017 11:16:32 GMT
It's kind of odd she keep changing appearance, that latest shot is by far the best I'm modelling my Sara on this femshep, family of crimson haired marauders we'll be!
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