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Post by cloud9 on Mar 13, 2017 2:13:25 GMT
There's nothing realistic about white people being the majority of humanity in space when even now white people are the least-populated race/group on the planet. Indian and Chinese people alone garner the majority of humanity. Also nothing in Mass Effect's lore implies that humans have somehow transcended tribalism or group-thinking. The majority of nation-states in 2183 still resemble the same volatile globalizing world what we have today. It's just another way of claiming that white is superior and dominant above people of color. That's all it is.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 13, 2017 3:04:33 GMT
This describes this thread best. Tumberlina detected
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 13, 2017 5:05:34 GMT
I'm more interested in racial diversity among turians. They all look exactly the same.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 13, 2017 5:45:13 GMT
I haven't read one single post in this thread but i've dated at least 3 black women so surely i'm a qualified authority on whatever subject this thread is supposedly about
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Post by jalis on Mar 13, 2017 6:10:05 GMT
There's nothing realistic about white people being the majority of humanity in space when even now white people are the least-populated race/group on the planet. Indian and Chinese people alone garner the majority of humanity. Also nothing in Mass Effect's lore implies that humans have somehow transcended tribalism or group-thinking. The majority of nation-states in 2183 still resemble the same volatile globalizing world what we have today. It's just another way of claiming that white is superior and dominant above people of color. That's all it is. It's just another way of claiming that white is superior and dominant above people of color. That's all it is.I have make a little rectification, to makes the sentence more close to reality ... Also to avoid to makes said someone a thing he didnt. Would you like to stop making unfair trial to Devs ? Most Humans could be white at MEA. I didnt played it, but I wouldnt be surprized. Devs simply made peoples in game in accordance with customers. Did such troll post existed also at time dev launched a poll for Female shepard appearence ? Afaik it started in a blonde, and at the end become a copper / red hair (Clearly, therefore, could only be white) I also feel, this kind of post, is a easy way the play the virtuous knight.
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 13, 2017 14:26:00 GMT
There's nothing realistic about white people being the majority of humanity in space when even now white people are the least-populated race/group on the planet. Indian and Chinese people alone garner the majority of humanity. Also nothing in Mass Effect's lore implies that humans have somehow transcended tribalism or group-thinking. The majority of nation-states in 2183 still resemble the same volatile globalizing world what we have today. Funnily enough, I think that most astronauts are Caucasian, do to the simple fact that the countries involved in space exploration are mostly Caucasian.
I also find it amusing how someone railing against da whites is so desperate for some tribalism and racism even in 2183.
Some people just can't seem accept the idea that for more and more people skin color is irrelevant in the face of character, personality, intellect, culture, and so on.
It stems from intersection al sociology I think. The irony being one could have some pride in their heritage and cultural identity, but not at the expense of others no matter who they are.
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Post by Bacus on Mar 13, 2017 15:15:01 GMT
Of all the humans we've seen so far, one is of indeterminate ethnic origin, two are black, three can be altered on the whims of the player, one is white, one appears to be Middle Eastern/South Asian, and once looked either hispanic or east asian. I'm sure we're fine with the diversity. Unless you're one of those "I'm tired of this liberal tears diversity push cuz we only have one confirmed white person even though the marketing is depicting the two main characters as their white defaults!" types. "Hispanic/east asian?" I have no clue as to how one of those looks like (and hell, i'm latin american, in theory i should know, right?)
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Post by farsight on Mar 13, 2017 16:40:58 GMT
That is exactly the problem of POC refuse to embrace their history and culture it's called internalized racism. ...........I think your the first person ever to use internalized racism in a not bullshit manner, well done. I still think its a bad term but well done anyways. I never said I was racist against my own people. I love my people. I love my family. I just don't partake in the traditions, but neither do I stop or mock them for doing it. It's just not me. We're all free to do as we choose and can still accept ourselves for our differences. Believe it or not. This is why so many people these days don't get along with us. Everything is black and white in their worlds. If I didn't like my people or hated them. Why would I be trying to get one of them in a game with some more diverse roles and personalities? Believe it or not we get a lot of outgoing happy people out here too, but you rarely see that in portrayal's of Natives. Your claims are as vapid as the buzzwords your use. I know the history of my people. Probably better than yourself. I choose to remain detached from any racial identity these days as it gives me the ultimate view of the world. I know many histories of many countries. My own people hate me for studying histories of other countries and accuse me of being a white boy all the time or acting like it. I have one family member in particular who really detests it. Then again other people congratulate me on being a person of the world. It's all about perspective. My problem with people is not where they come form, what they look like, or anything like that. It's what they do... that is why I isolate myself from the world as much as I can. So much horrifying stuff done to people they love and care about. Or for their zealous beliefs. Or even lashing out emotionally. I've felt the consequences of all these actions dearly over my life.
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 13, 2017 17:16:02 GMT
There's nothing realistic about white people being the majority of humanity in space when even now white people are the least-populated race/group on the planet. Indian and Chinese people alone garner the majority of humanity. Also nothing in Mass Effect's lore implies that humans have somehow transcended tribalism or group-thinking. The majority of nation-states in 2183 still resemble the same volatile globalizing world what we have today. It all makes much more sense once you realize that Mass Effect takes place in a universe where Canada is the dominate space power and all human settlements outside earth were settled according to Canadian demographics. That's how I imagine it happened anyway: 🇨🇦
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 13, 2017 17:27:40 GMT
Actually, if the current trend picks up, the majority there will be largely non-white as well.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 13, 2017 17:48:38 GMT
There's nothing realistic about white people being the majority of humanity in space when even now white people are the least-populated race/group on the planet. Indian and Chinese people alone garner the majority of humanity. Also nothing in Mass Effect's lore implies that humans have somehow transcended tribalism or group-thinking. The majority of nation-states in 2183 still resemble the same volatile globalizing world what we have today. Funnily enough, I think that most astronauts are Caucasian, do to the simple fact that the countries involved in space exploration are mostly Caucasian.
I also find it amusing how someone railing against da whites is so desperate for some tribalism and racism even in 2183.
Some people just can't seem accept the idea that for more and more people skin color is irrelevant in the face of character, personality, intellect, culture, and so on.
*cough* Right!
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 13, 2017 19:19:48 GMT
Glad we agree on something. We wouldn't want to project our own failings on others, would we?
I was being sarcastic.
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Post by obatalaryder on Mar 13, 2017 20:24:47 GMT
There's nothing realistic about white people being the majority of humanity in space when even now white people are the least-populated race/group on the planet. Indian and Chinese people alone garner the majority of humanity. Also nothing in Mass Effect's lore implies that humans have somehow transcended tribalism or group-thinking. The majority of nation-states in 2183 still resemble the same volatile globalizing world what we have today. Funnily enough, I think that most astronauts are Caucasian, do to the simple fact that the countries involved in space exploration are mostly Caucasian.
I also find it amusing how someone railing against da whites is so desperate for some tribalism and racism even in 2183.
Some people just can't seem accept the idea that for more and more people skin color is irrelevant in the face of character, personality, intellect, culture, and so on.
If you knew anything about ME's lore you'd know that the Alliance was a joint effort by all of the largest nation's space programs. So it wouldn't be simply America and Europe.
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Post by obatalaryder on Mar 13, 2017 20:28:48 GMT
I'm glad we live in a post-racial utopia, the one that only exists inside your head.
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 13, 2017 20:32:28 GMT
I'm glad we live in a post-racial utopia, the one that only exists inside your head. We don't, nor did Laughing Man suggest we did. Nor do we live in the racial dystopia of white supremacy envisioned by the likes of cloud9
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Post by obatalaryder on Mar 13, 2017 20:49:03 GMT
I'm glad we live in a post-racial utopia, the one that only exists inside your head. We don't, nor did Laughing Man suggest we did. Nor do we live in the racial dystopia of white supremacy envisioned by the likes of cloud9 I'm guessing you're talking about a country somewhere tha'ts not America.
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Post by obatalaryder on Mar 13, 2017 20:52:30 GMT
I'm glad we live in a post-racial utopia, the one that only exists inside your head. Utopia? If you think that anyone is living in a Utopia, white or not, you are deluded.
Inside my head there is zero care for matters of race, I care about substance and merit, things that your arguments lack.
The problem is the cold, logical, hard reality of the world doesn't take orders from the inside your head. No one gives a fuck what's inside your head.
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 13, 2017 20:54:04 GMT
We don't, nor did Laughing Man suggest we did. Nor do we live in the racial dystopia of white supremacy envisioned by the likes of cloud9 I'm guessing you're talking about a country somewhere tha'ts not America. If you really think the U.S is a white supremacist hellhole you are dead wrong on that in many respects. Tell that to people's faces as they work their asses off to prevent those kind of folk from fucking with people living here, or get off the high horse.
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Post by amleth on Mar 13, 2017 21:12:08 GMT
I'm guessing you're talking about a country somewhere tha'ts not America. If you really think the U.S is a white supremacist hellhole you are dead wrong on that in many respects. Tell that to people's faces as they work their asses off to prevent those kind of folk from fucking with people living here, or get off the high horse. And so you would attribute the disproportionate number of blacks shot by police, Mexican wall building and anti Chinese rhetoric in the white house down to...?
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Post by Natashina on Mar 13, 2017 21:12:36 GMT
Yeah, this has gotten way too off-topic. Locking this up.
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