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Post by pixiqui on Mar 9, 2017 2:10:18 GMT
I feel the same, honestly the last thing on my mind if I like someone or find them attractive is their race. If I think someone's attractive, their attractive period regardless of race or skin color, but that's just me. Same. I mean, I think of their unique appearance. I loved my ex's dreads and you have a good ivory and Raven locks look going on. thanx!
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Post by senya on Mar 9, 2017 2:57:32 GMT
Same. I mean, I think of their unique appearance. I loved my ex's dreads and you have a good ivory and Raven locks look going on. thanx! Don't get me started on the tattoo.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 9, 2017 3:28:14 GMT
I'm being real with you. I'm not faking the funk when it comes to this. Well, thanks for telling me that girls don't appreciate having their race insulted. Here I was wondering why all my black girlfriends keep running away. Thank God.
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Post by pixiqui on Mar 9, 2017 3:35:46 GMT
thanx! Don't get me started on the tattoo. Haha! Yeah, it hurt like hell when i got it, but it was worth it lol.
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Post by senya on Mar 9, 2017 3:41:57 GMT
Don't get me started on the tattoo. Haha! Yeah, it hurt like hell when i got it, but it was worth it lol. I think so too. What do they say?
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 9, 2017 3:55:42 GMT
I definitely see a white nationalist resurgence as plausable in the Mass Effect Universe. Chris L'Etoile, who wrote much of the backstory for ME1, initially wanted a more gritty premise in which the discovery of Mass Effect technology effectively helped prevent the escalation of Earth's overpopulation crisis. After Drew Karpyshyn disagreed with this bleak premise the issue of overpopulation was reduced to single line in the codex. Still,I can see Caucasian peoples leaving Earth in large numbers once interstellar colonization became feasible, this could easily explain the prevalence of caucasians in the Systems Alliance and the colonies. This isn't inherently unworkable. We do need to come up with something to knock China off track, though. (India and Japan we can handwave.) Even the Codex not mentioning this isn't a serious problem. Leaving the vast majority of people trapped on Earth with no prospects -- and worse, having this be de facto racial segregation -- isn't something that Alliance histories would talk about unless you really wanted to dig into the subject.
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Post by pixiqui on Mar 9, 2017 4:02:58 GMT
Haha! Yeah, it hurt like hell when i got it, but it was worth it lol. I think so too. What do they say? It says "when you wish upon a star" it's inspired by the song from the movie pinocchio i'm a really big disney fan lol
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Post by senya on Mar 9, 2017 4:11:55 GMT
I think so too. What do they say? It says "when you wish upon a star" it's inspired by the song from the movie pinocchio i'm a really big disney fan lol Nice. I'd have gone with "Like Fire, Hellfire". Oh, Tony Jay, you were too good for this sinful earth...
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 9, 2017 4:29:20 GMT
That's unfortunate, but I guess that makes sense. I can't speak for guys because i'm not one but from my experience and from what I hear, most guys don't care what race a woman is as long as she's attractive but you're probably right. It's a shame though, I think black women are beautiful, all races of women really. Still, I hope we get more love interests from various ethnicities both male and female especially considering in the mass effect universe race don't seem to be an issue anymore since most humans are mixed race or racially ambiguous. My ex is actually black and she was really beautiful. I wish that it had worked out...Anyway, I think all races are beautiful, though I can understand why you might be attracted to some more than others. I don't get people who think someone is unattractive solely due to their race... Mmmmm. I wonder why....
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Post by senya on Mar 9, 2017 4:51:51 GMT
My ex is actually black and she was really beautiful. I wish that it had worked out...Anyway, I think all races are beautiful, though I can understand why you might be attracted to some more than others. I don't get people who think someone is unattractive solely due to their race... Mmmmm. I wonder why.... ?
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 9, 2017 6:13:02 GMT
If you have an inferiority complex due to race, the problem is in yourself for presuming an attack everywhere you go. Such pre-judgements are made on yourself because of skin color, and not the passer-by in the street. You know so little about me, and apparently so little about New York (narrowing down demographics of the boroughs is irrelevant, this is a city where you can have ten conversations in twenty languages down a street block on a daily basis, regardless of where you live) yet you choose to presume a LOT about something said in the context of a very irrelevent question about a video game. I wonder what sociology text it came from; it sounds like a poor attempt at intersectional analysis that presumes where one lives defines their outlook on social topics. Here is why it doesn't matter in the context of the game- they are all humans and racial hangups are irrelevant to them when aliens are walking around, and have been irrelevant for the whole series. Here is why it shouldn't matter in real life- we are all humans playing a videogame where we can choose that representation as need be for ourselves. The issue of race only becomes an issue when folks like yourself make it one. Doesn't matter if you are black or white to me, you're arguing something based on the presumption of an attack. Your assumptions are not only wrong, but dangerously on the verge of presuming non-whites all suffer from an inferiority complex because of racial hangups. Perhaps you should choose your words more carefully, or get over your own apparent hangups that you may have. As for me, I am going to enjoy a video game when it releases and not give a fuck about what the color of your skin is. Maybe you should too. I specifically stated it does not matter where you live in the U.S. Of course you ignore this because it doesn't fit your narrative. You could live in Detroit and the media would still be overwhelming white. You don't get to tell someone that it doesn't matter if it matters to them. Again, you're a the rich guy telling the poor guy that money does not matter. For the rich guy everything is good. Why would he want to rock the boat? It's ironic that you say I choose to presume when your entire argument is based on a false presumption. There are actual studies that prove my point. You simply don't want to acknowledge reality. Probably because you have it good and don't want anything to change.
I didn't say non-whites have inferiority complexes for no other reason than that they are non-white. I said a people raised in a country where they are not a majority, have no political power and they are mostly excluded from having positive alpha role models in media will have issues. This could apply to, for example, whites raised in Japan. It's not a "non-white issue". It's a minority issue. Minority does not = non-white. It does in the U.S. Black parents aren't intentionally teaching their children to prefer lighter skinned dolls. The greater society is though even if not overtly.
You again presume way too much, but I am not surprised since you did it from the start. For one, I am a 30 year old professor who can barely pay his bills in full and lives paycheck to paycheck to make ends meet. By no means do I have it good. I also work to bring actual change to the world through education where it counts; guidance for people in areas such as history, economics, politics and even a bit of sociology so they understand actual concepts in how the world works, and what they can do to effect change. Second, and more importantly, i'm pointing out the fallacy of intersectionality as the sole analysis of societal issues. It disregards conflicting data as abnormal because it presumes all forms of society are out to get someone because of people being in a minority. You're argument is built on studies that are at best, subjective data analysis, and at worst, opinionated pre-tenses based upon social and psychological stigmas to galvanize people, instead of addressing actual societal problems. In fact, it also encourages a de-facto form of acceptance of your lot in extreme cases and a perceived definition of their identity in the grand scheme of things. Yet a lot of the time such studies that champion such ideals fail to recognize the overlap of individuals overwhelmingly against their own trends, and often appeal to emotion instead to prove a point. This furthers socio-political splits amongst a population, which in turn is even worse because it breeds contempt between minority/majority groups in the long run due to the misuse of ideas like privilege and the CRT. Not once I noticed you saying at all how to fix such a problem, for example. You are quick to lay blame on society being dominantly white, and the presumption I have some form of privilege inherently because of that (or because of the society I live in) and instead ride in as if you are about to provide a teachable moment of some kind. However, you are saying everything i've heard before- and most of it is dismissed because things such as the CRT and societal studies regarding race are incredibly flawed in providing an objective analysis to their conclusions, and give few ways to move past racial constructs other than accepting they exist and relishing in it as our defining trait as a society. This is one of the first things I have to also teach my student's: subjective analysis is meaningless if evidence doesn't support such conclusions. Your bit about the dolls is good evidence of a problem that I agree with, but in the 1940s you had a good sample size to go by. The "Girl Like Me" test by Kiri Davis had 21 subjects...Clark had 300 with no control group nor actual theory behind it. Past uses of the Clark Doll test appealed to emotion by creating eye-catching statistics. Ultimately recent uses of the Clark Doll Test do the same thing with shakier pretense; small test groups which as far as a psychological studies go, is too small to be meaningful in an objective way. So let's cut to the chase: Your problem is injecting real-life race politics into a conversation where human race politics in a video game is non-existent. So yes, I can tell someone it doesn't matter for that game because by the game's own design, it doesn't. Nothing prevents players from fulfilling a power fantasy in the style of a BioWare game, and accusations over such hangups are ultimately meaningless, regardless of what your narrative is. If you make a black, white, asian and so forth is a choice of the player to skin that cat and role-play as they see fit. It has nothing to do with race and representation- and folks looking for that representation are missing the point of the game's own presentation.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 9, 2017 6:18:15 GMT
Think again, buddy.
You live in the United States so you are the racial majority and nearly all characters are white so my assumption is correct. Even for a black man from Detroit nearly all characters on TV, movies, comics, etc. are white. On a state level whites make up the majority of NY residents. And narrowing down the field even more, based on boroughs, unless you live in the Bronx you are the racial majority. Don't you even know your own city's demographics?
It's easy for you to say, "What does it matter?", considering your group is the most represented. Your children aren't going to be shunning white dolls or feeling like some other race of people are better because all their heroes and they people they want to be like are non-white. You don't have to deal with any inferiority complex derived from being raised as a minority.
My children aren't going to be shunning white or black dolls because they won't grow up believing in that inferiority nonsense that so many others believe. You think those Obama kids feel inferior going to a school with mostly White kids? No. You know why? Because they were TAUGHT to not believe in bullshit like that. They were taught that all people are equal. They aren't worried about race nonsense because they were taught better. So no matter what garbage gets put on TV, or the movies or the internet they know better than to believe it. Indeed there was a time when parents taught their children life skills so that they could live and thrive as adults. Too many people have to google how to tie a tie (myself included) or how to iron a damn shirt as it is but I won't go there right now. At least some one is out there trying to teach this stuff... The problem here is that the PARENTS are not teaching their children to rise above this garbage and so they just live with it and have kids that make their kids live with it and the cycle goes on and on until something miraculous happens and someone decides to question the things they believe. Bioware adding Black people to a video game is NOT going to get rid of the inferiority complex. And even though this is really not PC at all, sitting around yelling at a bunch of innocent White people to put some characters in a video game is not going to change anything either. These kids need to be TAUGHT to not believe in such nonsense by teachers and others. But at the end of the day, teachers can't raise anyone's kids for them and the parents need to step up. Going off on this guy for no good reason is just poor form. He didn't do anything wrong. I understand that you don't want your children to believe that "we're all equals" to not have your children to be affected by racism, but it will not solve the problem of racism neither will fix it. And I think you should have your children to be proud of their blackness by teaching them black history, literature, and teach them to love themselves because the world will not.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 9, 2017 7:43:48 GMT
I know, but one can/could hope. I wanted a fellow black woman in my squad, but I think they'll have her unavailable as a romantic interest. I think they have issues with black women in their games.
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Post by Cypher on Mar 9, 2017 8:18:51 GMT
That's unfortunate, but I guess that makes sense. I can't speak for guys because i'm not one but from my experience and from what I hear, most guys don't care what race a woman is as long as she's attractive but you're probably right. It's a shame though, I think black women are beautiful, all races of women really. Still, I hope we get more love interests from various ethnicities both male and female especially considering in the mass effect universe race don't seem to be an issue anymore since most humans are mixed race or racially ambiguous. The highlighted part presents the issue imo, since some races are generally percieved as less attractive by people from other races. So a black woman would have to be a lot more attractive than a white woman relatively speaking for me (as a white male) to find her attractive. Same goes for asians. The top percentage of women of other races look great, but once you go into average territory it's a whole other story. It has nothing to do with racism either, it's a matter of preference. You can't tell people what they should find attractive the same way you can't tell them what food or music they should enjoy. Another thing to consider is that while race-mixing is heavily pushed in the media nowadays, the majority of people prefer to have partners of their own race. That's why I don't buy the "everyone is mixed-race in the future" line. White people are a minority in the world and we have the lowest birth rates. In most western countries these birth rates aren't high enough to sustain a stable population size anymore, so unless something changes we'll gradually go extinct over hundreds or thousands of years. I get what you're saying, but it's not just a matter of preference, and a lot of it has to do with inherent social bias, especially in regards to the "unattractiveness" of sects of minorities like black, middle eastern, etc. Anyone growing up in a "western" society or a society with heavy western influence is brought up with the preconceived notion that white people are the default and white women--blonde white women especially--are the baseline for attractiveness. it's why those who tend to adopt default white women features, straight hair, for example, tend to be deemed more attractive than the ginger with curls or the black girl with a fro. And while plenty of people can bypass these biases, they're very much a heavy influence on attractiveness. Precisely why black males, who grow up in a community of nothing but black people, interact with nothing but black people on a daily basis, always tend to make a beeline for your fair skinned blonde white women at the first opportunity with little to no variation; we're programmed to. I know this from firsthand experience as being a black male who had a stretch where everyone who wasn't a blonde white girl with long hair was unattractive to me until I had an epiphany and actually opened myself up to paying attention to others and actually identifying features I actually find attractive more on others than on white women.
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 9, 2017 12:00:47 GMT
I specifically stated it does not matter where you live in the U.S. Of course you ignore this because it doesn't fit your narrative. You could live in Detroit and the media would still be overwhelming white. You don't get to tell someone that it doesn't matter if it matters to them. Again, you're a the rich guy telling the poor guy that money does not matter. For the rich guy everything is good. Why would he want to rock the boat? It's ironic that you say I choose to presume when your entire argument is based on a false presumption. There are actual studies that prove my point. You simply don't want to acknowledge reality. Probably because you have it good and don't want anything to change.
I didn't say non-whites have inferiority complexes for no other reason than that they are non-white. I said a people raised in a country where they are not a majority, have no political power and they are mostly excluded from having positive alpha role models in media will have issues. This could apply to, for example, whites raised in Japan. It's not a "non-white issue". It's a minority issue. Minority does not = non-white. It does in the U.S. Black parents aren't intentionally teaching their children to prefer lighter skinned dolls. The greater society is though even if not overtly.
You again presume way too much, but I am not surprised since you did it from the start. For one, I am a 30 year old professor who can barely pay his bills in full and lives paycheck to paycheck to make ends meet. By no means do I have it good. I also work to bring actual change to the world through education where it counts; guidance for people in areas such as history, economics, politics and even a bit of sociology so they understand actual concepts in how the world works, and what they can do to effect change. Second, and more importantly, i'm pointing out the fallacy of intersectionality as the sole analysis of societal issues. It disregards conflicting data as abnormal because it presumes all forms of society are out to get someone because of people being in a minority. You're argument is built on studies that are at best, subjective data analysis, and at worst, opinionated pre-tenses based upon social and psychological stigmas to galvanize people, instead of addressing actual societal problems. In fact, it also encourages a de-facto form of acceptance of your lot in extreme cases and a perceived definition of their identity in the grand scheme of things. Yet a lot of the time such studies that champion such ideals fail to recognize the overlap of individuals overwhelmingly against their own trends, and often appeal to emotion instead to prove a point. This furthers socio-political splits amongst a population, which in turn is even worse because it breeds contempt between minority/majority groups in the long run due to the misuse of ideas like privilege and the CRT. Not once I noticed you saying at all how to fix such a problem, for example. You are quick to lay blame on society being dominantly white, and the presumption I have some form of privilege inherently because of that (or because of the society I live in) and instead ride in as if you are about to provide a teachable moment of some kind. However, you are saying everything i've heard before- and most of it is dismissed because things such as the CRT and societal studies regarding race are incredibly flawed in providing an objective analysis to their conclusions, and give few ways to move past racial constructs other than accepting they exist and relishing in it as our defining trait as a society. This is one of the first things I have to also teach my student's: subjective analysis is meaningless if evidence doesn't support such conclusions. Your bit about the dolls is good evidence of a problem that I agree with, but in the 1940s you had a good sample size to go by. The "Girl Like Me" test by Kiri Davis had 21 subjects...Clark had 300 with no control group nor actual theory behind it. Past uses of the Clark Doll test appealed to emotion by creating eye-catching statistics. Ultimately recent uses of the Clark Doll Test do the same thing with shakier pretense; small test groups which as far as a psychological studies go, is too small to be meaningful in an objective way. So let's cut to the chase: Your problem is injecting real-life race politics into a conversation where human race politics in a video game is non-existent. So yes, I can tell someone it doesn't matter for that game because by the game's own design, it doesn't. Nothing prevents players from fulfilling a power fantasy in the style of a BioWare game, and accusations over such hangups are ultimately meaningless, regardless of what your narrative is. If you make a black, white, asian and so forth is a choice of the player to skin that cat and role-play as they see fit. It has nothing to do with race and representation- and folks looking for that representation are missing the point of the game's own presentation. Nice red herring. In terms of the subject matter you do have it good. You, as a white person in the U.S., are privy to the lion's share of representation. any potential children you have will develop a healthy self image. I take it you're trying to change the subject because you know you can't win if you stay on subject. This is not about your financial situation.
I never said anyone was out to get anyone. However, the psychological effects of being bombarded with media that primarily features people who you do not relate to on a growing child are negative. That's just the results of capitalism and how it affects what is put out there. Whites represent the largest economic block so media tends to cater to whites. Whites make up the majority of creators and like any normal person when you have ideas they picture people like themselves as the default. Also, the majority of the talent pool will likewise be white.
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Post by danishgambit on Mar 9, 2017 12:20:20 GMT
My children aren't going to be shunning white or black dolls because they won't grow up believing in that inferiority nonsense that so many others believe. You think those Obama kids feel inferior going to a school with mostly White kids? No. You know why? Because they were TAUGHT to not believe in bullshit like that. They were taught that all people are equal. They aren't worried about race nonsense because they were taught better. So no matter what garbage gets put on TV, or the movies or the internet they know better than to believe it. Indeed there was a time when parents taught their children life skills so that they could live and thrive as adults. Too many people have to google how to tie a tie (myself included) or how to iron a damn shirt as it is but I won't go there right now. At least some one is out there trying to teach this stuff... The problem here is that the PARENTS are not teaching their children to rise above this garbage and so they just live with it and have kids that make their kids live with it and the cycle goes on and on until something miraculous happens and someone decides to question the things they believe. Bioware adding Black people to a video game is NOT going to get rid of the inferiority complex. And even though this is really not PC at all, sitting around yelling at a bunch of innocent White people to put some characters in a video game is not going to change anything either. These kids need to be TAUGHT to not believe in such nonsense by teachers and others. But at the end of the day, teachers can't raise anyone's kids for them and the parents need to step up. Going off on this guy for no good reason is just poor form. He didn't do anything wrong. I understand that you don't want your children to believe that "we're all equals" to not have your children to be affected by racism, but it will not solve the problem of racism neither will fix it. And I think you should have your children to be proud of their blackness by teaching them black history, literature, and teach them to love themselves because the world will not. Eh no I'm pretty sure I do want them to believe we're all equals... And who said anything about solving racism or curing cancer or finding the holy grail? That guy talked about an inferiority complex. I gave the way to remove it. That's all. You can't be proud of "blackness" anymore than "whiteness" or whatever else ness. It's just a skin color. Should people be proud of those people that paved the way for them to be where they are? Sure. Who said anything about not teaching them history?
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Post by hammerstorm on Mar 9, 2017 12:21:48 GMT
Are we still discussing the "Racial diversity amongst humans in andromeda"? Or have we left it and gone in to real life? In that case maybe we should move the thread to (Or just close it and move on).
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Post by luke on Mar 9, 2017 13:02:57 GMT
You can't be proud of "blackness" anymore than "whiteness" or whatever else ness. It's just a skin color. Should people be proud of those people that paved the way for them to be where they are? Sure. Who said anything about not teaching them history? When people are talking about being proud of "blackness", they're talking about a refusal to be ashamed of their heritage. This is where representation matters. Black women are typically portrayed as "the sassy/ angry black woman" stereotype by the media and these are the only impressions white people in white-only areas get. When predominantly white societies tell black women to hide their natural hair, and when these societies tell black people that having darker skin is unattractive, then there is a need to be proud of your "blackness", otherwise you end up reinforcing white-supremacist ideals. Afro hair is still classed as "unprofessional" in some workplaces, and I've personally known black women who were worried about wearing their natural hair as they thought they'd be less attractive. Skin bleaching exists because women with lighter skin are often portrayed as more attractive in our predominantly-white society. Situations like these are when you should be "proud" of your heritage. It isn't about gloating about your ancestors. Personally I see no reason as to why there shouldn't be more diversity in the Mass Effect Universe. Tbh, I'm pretty sure we've seen more darker skinned Turians than Humans at this point. Even Gears of War has a more diverse cast of characters, and that's a game renowned for glorifying over-the-top masculinity as opposed to exploring sociopolitical problems like Mass Effect has.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 9, 2017 13:39:15 GMT
So 20k humans, and a few more in the nexus pods. You think they'll mostly be of white European stock/origin? Evenly dispersed and divided amongst all races? How much black and East Asian people will the AI take in? If humans in andromeda resort to cloning or test tube babies what race will they mostly be? Will they all end up looking like Goobacks 100 years after they've reach andromeda? It's called "white flight" for a reason, Dutch.
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Post by danishgambit on Mar 9, 2017 13:47:34 GMT
When people are talking about being proud of "blackness", they're talking about a refusal to be ashamed of their heritage. This is where representation matters. Black women are typically portrayed as "the sassy/ angry black woman" stereotype by the media and these are the only impressions white people in white-only areas get. When predominantly white societies tell black women to hide their natural hair, and when these societies tell black people that having darker skin is unattractive, then there is a need to be proud of your "blackness", otherwise you end up reinforcing white-supremacist ideals. Afro hair is still classed as "unprofessional" in some workplaces, and I've personally known black women who were worried about wearing their natural hair as they thought they'd be less attractive. Skin bleaching exists because women with lighter skin are often portrayed as more attractive in our predominantly-white society. Situations like these are when you should be "proud" of your heritage. It isn't about gloating about your ancestors. Personally I see no reason as to why there shouldn't be more diversity in the Mass Effect Universe. Tbh, I'm pretty sure we've seen more darker skinned Turians than Humans at this point. Even Gears of War has a more diverse cast of characters, and that's a game renowned for glorifying over-the-top masculinity as opposed to exploring sociopolitical problems like Mass Effect has. Sure these things happen but is it happening in mass effect? No one has been able to provide one legitimate example despite the notion is that it's some kind of a problem.
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Post by danishgambit on Mar 9, 2017 13:54:39 GMT
I mean it's just hard to take some of these complaints seriously. Just look at Jacob. A lot of people say he's some kind of terrible character because he cheated on Shepard and that negates all the positive things he's done like gone on a suicide mission (Navy Seals type stuff right there) served in the Alliance military, saved a crew from a crazy de facto captain that was killing the men and raping the women, and protected civilians from a terrorist organization. But OH NO NO NO no he cheated on Shepard and no man could ever commit a more heinous crime, he's a terrible guy, throw him out of the airlock... Sure it was a messed up thing to do but it doesn't suddenly turn him into a terrible character with no redeeming features or a token character. By that logic all he'd have to do is eat a plate of chicken to be branded as a stereotype because apparently Black people aren't allowed to eat chicken in movies. How about that...
And frankly I LIKED that the guy cheated and that Thane died. Finally in these games we can see that the characters are not infallible and that the game isn't some soap opera that always goes the player's way. But that's a whole other can of worms...
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Post by luke on Mar 9, 2017 14:12:22 GMT
Sure these things happen but is it happening in mass effect? No one has been able to provide one legitimate example despite the notion is that it's some kind of a problem. No one is saying it's happened in Mass Effect, they're saying representation in media is important for these issues in the real world.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 9, 2017 14:15:07 GMT
He it's hispanic, so latino? still not white. Udina isn't a Hispanic sounding last name though.
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Post by amleth on Mar 9, 2017 15:18:52 GMT
He it's hispanic, so latino? still not white. Udina isn't a Hispanic sounding last name though. I didn't think so too but surprisingly it is. Or at least it's most common in spain, very strange distribution though. lastnames.myheritage.com/last-name/udina
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 9, 2017 17:24:39 GMT
I understand that you don't want your children to believe that "we're all equals" to not have your children to be affected by racism, but it will not solve the problem of racism neither will fix it. And I think you should have your children to be proud of their blackness by teaching them black history, literature, and teach them to love themselves because the world will not. Eh no I'm pretty sure I do want them to believe we're all equals... And who said anything about solving racism or curing cancer or finding the holy grail? That guy talked about an inferiority complex. I gave the way to remove it. That's all. You can't be proud of "blackness" anymore than "whiteness" or whatever else ness. It's just a skin color. Should people be proud of those people that paved the way for them to be where they are? Sure. Who said anything about not teaching them history? My children will be affected by racism regardless of what I teach them. My job as dad is to help them understand it. To give them the tools to navigate a society that would see them broken, dead or imprisoned. I teach them of their africaness. I teach them the truth of their blackness. I teach them their hue is much, MUCH more than just the color of their skin. I teach my babies "Man, know thyself". I teach them truth.
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