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Post by gilsotherlover on Jun 17, 2017 9:20:17 GMT
Is anyone else doing the Jaal romance?
I feel so bad for cheating on Gil. But. There's. Actual. Content.
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Post by jjdxb on Jun 17, 2017 9:26:17 GMT
Is anyone else doing the Jaal romance? I feel so bad for cheating on Gil. But. There's. Actual. Content. Don't feel bad. So long as you don't lead Gil on, you're not doing anything wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 9:48:48 GMT
Is anyone else doing the Jaal romance? I feel so bad for cheating on Gil. But. There's. Actual. Content. Oh yeah! I romanced him twice already. Good times! OH, Happy birthday again jjdxb. Third times a charm right?
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 17, 2017 22:40:51 GMT
So how are the forums now? Still a cesspool of negativity? I read that Jaal is now available for Scott. Nice! He says, after telling everyone who wanted it that they were ungrateful. Yes I stand by the opinion that people who trashed the Gil romance were ungrateful. "Oh noes I don't see his ass in a cutscene". Not sure how it's relevant to Jaal though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 1:34:07 GMT
He says, after telling everyone who wanted it that they were ungrateful. Yes I stand by the opinion that people who trashed the Gil romance were ungrateful. "Oh noes I don't see his ass in a cutscene". Not sure how it's relevant to Jaal though. I bet you and BioFan are friends. Both willing to put the poor feelings of Bioware the AAA studio before those of the LGBT community.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 18, 2017 1:37:30 GMT
Oh I'm sorry were your feelings hurt because you didn't see Gil's ass?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 1:40:29 GMT
Oh I'm sorry were your feelings hurt because you didn't see Gil's ass? yup, you caught me!
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 18, 2017 1:53:40 GMT
Oh I'm sorry were your feelings hurt because you didn't see Gil's ass? yup, you caught me! Well then suck it up. Preferably IRL.
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Post by Dirk on Jun 18, 2017 1:56:49 GMT
Is anyone else doing the Jaal romance? I feel so bad for cheating on Gil. But. There's. Actual. Content. Yep, I am doing in one currently. I already had a Gil playthrough. This is the first time in ME game for me that I have romanced different people in different playthroughs lol. Previously I just stick with Kaidan. But yeah from what I see so far, Gil romance has significantly less content than Jaal's. I still hope that they fix his romance and add more content in a patch and DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 1:59:39 GMT
I don't forget what has been said by people. There was some rude ass shit said, and it wasn't just about Gil's ass. We got Jaal cause we stood up for what's right, and I'm proud of the LGBT and allied fans that fought for it.
So it's a good thing we didn't listen to that ignorant noise that was being said back then.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 2:05:13 GMT
Well then suck it up. Preferably IRL. you name the time and place. I'll bring the protection and heavy sense of self loathing.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 18, 2017 2:12:09 GMT
Well then suck it up. Preferably IRL. you name the time and place. I'll bring the protection and heavy sense of self loathing. *chuckle* Understanding that m/m content may sometimes unfortunately be less represented in a video game is self-loathing now lmao The fact is I'm mature enough to not need visualized nookie to validate a hypothetical relationship, or be so smitten with them that I would just DIE if I weren't at work with them. Knowing the difference between wanting something and absolutely needing it to the point of claiming inequality and oppression. The Gil romance was great. The Reyes romance was also great. The self-victimization is real.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 18, 2017 2:30:12 GMT
you name the time and place. I'll bring the protection and heavy sense of self loathing. *chuckle* Understanding that m/m content may sometimes unfortunately be less represented in a video game is self-loathing now lmao The fact is I'm mature enough to not need visualized nookie to validate a hypothetical relationship, or be so smitten with them that I would just DIE if I weren't at work with them. Knowing the difference between wanting something and absolutely needing it to the point of claiming inequality and oppression. The Gil romance was great. The Reyes romance was also great. The self-victimization is real.Both characters are great, their content is crap. It's a fact and this is an insult to those fans demanding more fair and good content equal to other romances. It's fine you dont want to be in the fight but dont put in the mud our effort at the same time saying that because it's not true.
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Post by melbella on Jun 18, 2017 2:34:46 GMT
The Jaal romance for Sara was, imo, crap. I've listed why I think so elsewhere. I preferred the Reyes romance by far, despite only interacting with him on Kadara.
More content does not necessarily mean better content.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 18, 2017 2:35:19 GMT
Both characters are great, their content is crap. It's a fact and this is an insult to those fans demanding more fair and good content equal to other romances. It's fine you dont want to be in the fight but dont put in the mud our effort at the same time saying that because it's not true. Their content wasn't crap. If you can't differentiate between romance and NPC content that's your fault. In the case of Reyes, the two are so intertwined that it's even more baffling that people would make that conclusion. Also I'm not trying to muddy up anything. Asking for more is fine. Playing the victim isn't. Who in the world wouldn't want more? I also want more. It doesn't mean I have to be an entitled shit about it, least of all from a company like BioWare which has a consistently inclusive history. Ugh.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 18, 2017 2:42:09 GMT
Both characters are great, their content is crap. It's a fact and this is an insult to those fans demanding more fair and good content equal to other romances. It's fine you dont want to be in the fight but dont put in the mud our effort at the same time saying that because it's not true. Their content wasn't crap. If you can't differentiate between romance and NPC content that's your fault. In the case of Reyes, the two are so intertwined that it's even more baffling that people would make that conclusion. Also I'm not trying to muddy up anything. Asking for more is fine. Playing the victim isn't. Gil's story is all about his abusive friend instead of him, you dont even get an endgame kiss if you dont want the baby at 22 years old, but what you get is a censored sex scene. Reyes romance depends on a moral decision, and he has even less content. We are demanding more but you are the only one who see us playing the victim. I dont see any self-victimization here. But you do you. Thank you btw for being glad about Jaal tho
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Post by Dirk on Jun 18, 2017 2:42:20 GMT
I don't forget what has been said by people. There was some rude ass shit said, and it wasn't just about Gil's ass. We got Jaal cause we stood up for what's right, and I'm proud of the LGBT and allied fans that fought for it. So it's a good thing we didn't listen to that ignorant noise that was being said back then. We would have never got Jaal romance if we weren't loud enough lol. #MakeJaalBi was very effective in that sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 2:43:24 GMT
I don't forget what has been said by people. There was some rude ass shit said, and it wasn't just about Gil's ass. We got Jaal cause we stood up for what's right, and I'm proud of the LGBT and allied fans that fought for it. So it's a good thing we didn't listen to that ignorant noise that was being said back then. We would have never got Jaal romance if we weren't loud enough lol. #MakeJaalBi was very effective in that sense. I like to get loud. :amirite:
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Post by Dirk on Jun 18, 2017 2:45:23 GMT
We would have never got Jaal romance if we weren't loud enough lol. #MakeJaalBi was very effective in that sense. I like to get loud. :amirite:
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 18, 2017 2:47:31 GMT
Gil's story is all about his abusive friend instead of him, you dont even get an endgame kiss if you dont want the baby at 22 years old, but what you get is a censored sex scene. Reyes romance depends on a moral decision, and he has even less content. We are demanding more but you are the only one who see us playing the victim. I dont see any self-victimization here. But you do you. Thank you btw for being glad about Jaal tho lol way to frame it in the most negative way possible. "Fenris's romance was an abusive relatonship where the PC either shoved their own ideologies into his throat or perpetuated his prejudices" I'm not going to argue your phobia of having a kid at the age of 22. Playing the victim by accusing BioWare of attacking the gay male community because of the lack of an uncensored sex scene is and will continue to be some of the most stupid shit I've read on these forums. That's what I am referring to, not any of the requests for more content. On the other hand, the outrage about Jaal not being a romance was totally justified. I'm glad they fixed it. It made no sense considering the context of their culture.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 18, 2017 2:53:28 GMT
We got Jaal cause we stood up for what's right, and I'm proud of the LGBT and allied fans that fought for it. Definitely
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Post by Dirk on Jun 18, 2017 2:55:08 GMT
Their content wasn't crap. If you can't differentiate between romance and NPC content that's your fault. In the case of Reyes, the two are so intertwined that it's even more baffling that people would make that conclusion. Also I'm not trying to muddy up anything. Asking for more is fine. Playing the victim isn't. Gil's story is all about his abusive friend instead of him, you dont even get an endgame kiss if you dont want the baby at 22 years old, but what you get is a censored sex scene. Reyes romance depends on a moral decision, and he has even less content. We are demanding more but you are the only one who see us playing the victim. I dont see any self-victimization here. But you do you. Thank you btw for being glad about Jaal tho Great point. It's been said so many times, but Jill involvement in Gil romance is just problematic, considering that it is the only romance where the duty to procreate comes up. I would love to see what would happen if Sara is pressured to have a baby and that it is mentioned in the game that the population is not a problem, but resource to sustain the population is. Jill urging Gil to have a baby is preposterous. I still remember how Reyes' dance fucked up when it happened with Scott but not with Sara. Not sure if it is completely fixed though.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 18, 2017 2:56:17 GMT
Gil's story is all about his abusive friend instead of him, you dont even get an endgame kiss if you dont want the baby at 22 years old, but what you get is a censored sex scene. Reyes romance depends on a moral decision, and he has even less content. We are demanding more but you are the only one who see us playing the victim. I dont see any self-victimization here. But you do you. Thank you btw for being glad about Jaal tho lol way to frame it in the most negative way possible. "Fenris's romance was an abusive relatonship where the PC either shoved their own ideologies into his throat or perpetuated his prejudices" I'm not going to argue your phobia of having a kid at the age of 22. Playing the victim by accusing BioWare of attacking the gay male community is and will continue to be some of the most stupid shit I've read on these forums All LI characters in DA2 are very broken, and I love them all for that because they are very real and human. It's not the same, that analogy does not work. I dont know if you know gaycaravaggio here, she's the user that leaked the romances and other stuff that were true, and she is the same person that leaked that this was intentional, alienated us in a way to not harm dudebros feelings having the less m/m content possible. Even if you didnt know this, after 5 years of development it's pretty much an obvious thing. Fortunately makejaalbi did something good and they even said that it was wrong that m/m players didnt have a squadmate, I support step by step, but not going backwards like MEA before bi Jaal. And I'm sorry but it's very insulting and ugly call us victims, and yes it's putting us in the mud. Being critical about something you like is not the same that being a victim and whiny child asking for more.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jun 18, 2017 3:01:33 GMT
lol way to frame it in the most negative way possible. "Fenris's romance was an abusive relatonship where the PC either shoved their own ideologies into his throat or perpetuated his prejudices" I'm not going to argue your phobia of having a kid at the age of 22. Playing the victim by accusing BioWare of attacking the gay male community is and will continue to be some of the most stupid shit I've read on these forums All LI characters in DA2 are very broken, and I love them all for that because they are very real and human. It's not the same, that analogy does not work. I dont know if you know gaycaravaggio here, she's the user that leaked the romances and other stuff that were true, and she is the same person that leaked that this was intentional, alienated us in a way to not harm dudebros feelings having the less m/m content possible. Even if you didnt know this, after 5 years of development it's pretty much an obvious thing. Fortunately makejaalbi did something good and they even said that it was wrong that m/m players didnt have a squadmate, I support step by step, but not going backwards like MEA before bi Jaal. And I'm sorry but it's very insulting and ugly call us victims, and yes it's putting us in the mud. Being critical about something you like is not the same that being a victim and whiny child asking for more. The justification... the relationship between Gil and Jill is also real. Rather than explore it you seek to mock it. The conspiracy theories. I don't care what some user claimed to have leaked. Again, it's not about being critical. it's the manner of criticisms. There's a massive difference between fairly requesting additional content and improvement, and claiming a motivated attack.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 3:01:53 GMT
Gil's story is all about his abusive friend instead of him, you dont even get an endgame kiss if you dont want the baby at 22 years old, but what you get is a censored sex scene. Reyes romance depends on a moral decision, and he has even less content. We are demanding more but you are the only one who see us playing the victim. I dont see any self-victimization here. But you do you. Thank you btw for being glad about Jaal tho Great point. It's been said so many times, but Jill involvement in Gil romance is just problematic, considering that it is the only romance where the duty to procreate comes up. I would love to see what would happen if Sara is pressured to have a baby and that it is mentioned in the game that the population is not a problem, but resource to sustain the population is. Jill urging Gil to have a baby is preposterous. I still remember how Reyes' dance fucked up when it happened with Scott but not with Sara. Not sure if it is completely fixed though. From what I understand they fixed some of the issues, but if you pick the logical choice before the dance it's still pretty bad, but the other choice has decent animation apparently. It's a shame they didn't fix the dance to work with boy dialogue choices. That seems very strange to me.
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