Gil Brodie - Chief Engineer (Official Thread)

Agreed!

Aww! Thank you!
Yes - here!

I can see that, or maybe he and Jill were friends from that time in his life and she was the only person from that life who cared about him thus why he is loyal to her as a friend. 

I got the impression that he and Jill are close in age, and that he was discovered by whoever (some adult) ran the scrapyard.

Whatever the situation, it seems very much like she was the only person who really showed an interest or concern for him at some point.

Thing is, exploring this connection could have been interesting, offer us more insight in to Gil, show some of his past. It'd involve Jill gaining more involvement in things, talking to Ryder away from him, but... If this were instead in service of developing Gil's character, not having her exist to supplement the baby thing (you know, make her... NOT a procreation tech, make her involved in some element of the Nexus or another, so it actually MAKES. FREAKING. SENSE. that she's out of cryo before a foothold has been established), I could accept it. Have her talk about the things that Gil doesn't - if he's the 'live in the moment' kind of guy, have her be the one who is remembering the past and Ryder as the foundation for the future.

It's so aggravating that in less than five minutes, I can build a better story arc for Gil than he got.

it would be odd for them to go with both new protag every time and no import system at all though.  I feel like even if we move away from Ryder there will have to be some kind of import system. 

I feel like the import system is something very unique to BioWare games as not many other companies do it, so it'd be a shame to completely abandon it. Choices like who are the pathfinders at the end are unique for sure as all 3 can either be different people or there just not be a turian pathfinder. Plus if any of the characters return they would most likely make references to Ryder and his/her history (romance for example). So I think it is something they should do. I know they already have a site built that lets us upload our custom Ryders, so it wouldn't be a shock to find out later on that there's already a system being worked on. (I hope that's the case)

I know, it's so nice to be able to tweak choices for transfer cause you don't want to play the old game generally-you want to get right into the new stuff.  

Totally agree with you. My problem is less with Jill herself and more about how she was executed. Particularly due to the fact that she takes up so much time in Gil's arc/romance but it's all in a way that gives very little insight into Gil himself.

And I've always found the glossing over of Gil's backstory outside of codex entries to be fucking infuriating. Gil's childhood experience is completely unique among the human characters in the series outside of Earthborn Shepard, and yet it's completely glossed over in favor of baby stuff they couldn't be bothered to execute properly.

It's just a shame because Gil himself is so charming and if they had focused on his personality and backstory (like every other character) instead of Jill/the baby, then he could have been a really great romance even with the C tier amount of screen time.

I received a review copy, so I was finished up my romances when it came to light that the M/M romances had less content. So I went in not having this knowledge and yes, I did enjoy the content that was there. Am I critical of it, oh hells yeah. 

I did not draw homophones to me, it'd be pretty weird considering I myself am a gay man. I approve of what they did with Jaal, just not how they did it. Patching in a character's sexuality invites for others to demand the same of other characters. A pandora's box has been opened. Yes he was always supposed to be so, but it shipped how it shipped and the demand for other characters (whom have specified sexuality even) to be changed was ignited as a result of patching Jaal. I enjoyed the content, I'm always for more inclusion of the LGBT community in games, I'm gay FFS. I just think the way they did it wasn't the best course of action in terms of the community. You'll understand this in future games when people immediately demand other characters be patched to be bisexual because "oh, well you did it for Jaal." It would've been better to develop his sexuality in a future game. Kinda like the Kaidan route. 

You paint me as some nefarious anti-gay character inclusion person, but often times you guys haven't actually paid attention to what I've said... 

I'm totally with you on the unbalance. And think they should maybe balance out the romances with the patches. I just think patching in a change to character sexuality is going to lead to a lot of trouble in the future.