Gil Brodie - Chief Engineer (Official Thread)

A really crinkly face. I have forehead wrinkles and I'm only 23. No crows feet though.

Yeah I'm 27 but while I certainly won't be carded anymore and my eyes may sometimes seem a bit tied, wrinkles isn't a common thing yet . Seems like its a 30s thing for me.

And there's the fact that real skin is just nicer, and more elastic, than a 3d game model.

Eh, I think it still is. Then again, I like the natural skin look that Frostbite has and find the mods that make people look smooth and fake to be completely unappealing.

Yeah, I started playing video games on a SNES, and just the vast graphical differences that came about from the Xbox classic... Like, if nothing else, that's part of what I cite as why facial animations not being perfect not bothering me in the slightest, because I've witnessed the evolution of graphics and recognize that this is, for all its advancements, still a young accomplishment - only about fifteen years ago, all characters in games were made up of boxes of varying sizes. It wasn't really until the last gen of game systems that genuine emotions could even appear on faces beyond a turn of the lips and a raising of an eyebrow. Like, compare Kaidan Alenko's puppy dog eyes at 'I lied, I didn't come here for a quick drink' to Carth Onasi's complete lack of emotional physicality at his anguished shout after Saul Karath tells him Revan's identity. That difference is only about ten years, and it's amazing the change in the level of conveyed emotion in the in-game models. So this is still new territory on the whole, of COURSE there are kinks to work out.

As for the baby thing... Yeah, I'm kinda right on the borderline of it. I DON'T want kids, this is something I'm convinced of and adamant about in my life - I don't have it in me, I know my limits, and I'm not about to father a child I don't feel like I can give 100% to. At the same time, I'm not against this being explored. The biggest issue I have with it in Gil's case (beyond the involvement of Fucking Jill and how it's HER desire to have a kid now that sparks the question, not Gil's own wishes and desires) is that there is such a compacting of everything to 'get Gil ready' to be a father, the game basically forgets about Gil as a character, as a person. This isn't a story about Gil maturing and being ready to take on this responsibility. We don't see Gil's supposed immaturity. It tells us, rather than shows us. And, ultimately, Gil ends up taking a backseat to Jill and the baby - Jill's having an arc, going from procreation tech to expectant mother. Gil's a supporting character in her narrative, where the things he says and does are to support and build her up, rather than having anything to do with him.

I'm significantly less on the fence regarding Ryder's future, though - I honestly was expecting them to start doing rotating protagonists in the series, even without the vocal minority backlash to the game in general. And honestly, especially considering the fact that Gil, a romance option, has a story that ends in potentially having a baby on the way... Like it was one thing for ME2 and ME3 to continue Shepard's story and introduce new LIs, since there weren't kids involved. But in any follow up game, if Ryder is still the PC, and new LIs are introduced, allowing us to dump the original LI for a new character... I mean, it'd definitely be new ground, but I don't feel like it's a topic they really would be addressing. So I expect that DLC will be the conclusion of Ryder's story.

Hey, so a while back I said I had a Gil/Ryder fic I was waiting to post. I have now officially posted it, so... Enjoy!

So, for those of you who turned down the baby option, do any of you still picture Scott and Gil having children further down the line?

Personally, I like to imagine that they'll have children regardless, just when Scott's thirty or so instead of twenty-two.

Same here. But part of that is because I'm not interested in children, so it's difficult to imagine my character wanting them. I don't do a full self insert, but there are always bits of myself in my characters.

As far as for Gil, I'm not convinced that having children is something that he truly wants. Even ignoring the Jill factor, he still has so many lingering issues from his own father's abandonment, that I think he should work some of those out first. What he needs is stability, and I think being with Scott can give him that.

I also really like the Sara/Vetra headcanon. Gay twins are the best twins.

I thought Ryder can make Gil think about make children comes together with responsibility to be a father. That is what it goes about in the discussion of them. Gil begins to think about wisely, if Ryder does care about this way. No matter if Ryder romanced Gil or not.

By the way, did you mentioned the diffrent physics of Gils and Ryders hair? I have tooked this duck hair, similar this one from Gil, but Scotts is moving with every quiver.

If you didn't like it, why did you choose the option?

It was a big mistake to screw up the game. It has so many open questions. I want to have more from Gil and Scott.