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Post by MasterJukes on Feb 25, 2017 18:06:20 GMT
I need to be honest here guys, both Game Informer and Giant Bomb " reviews " were shameful and when I went to watch the Game Informer " reveiew ", I already was kinda thinking (wtf are these scrubs going to talk about) since we all know the classic Game Informer strat, they only seem to be excited about a game when the developer pays them to do the review and it became clear BioWare didn't.
I've seen a lot of people hair going nuts, setting other people on fire and etc... Just because of some " non-positive reviews ", are guys for real worried about what some random dudes, yeah random dudes and lots of them probably never played the trilogy, talking about some things that aren't positive in this game? I mean, BioWare is good at their work, BUT THEY ARE NOT PERFECT.
I've also seen a lot people still whining about the facial animations, BioWare said they were going to improve it and they did, wtf... Were you guys expecting Uncharted 4 facial animations? I think some people need to learn the difference between improving and making it PERFECT, I'm thinking about going on a hunt to see if I can find any tweet where any BioWare employee said that the facial animations would be perfect.
To end this post, I'll say... Don't let these " reviews " change your mind.
If you think this game is going to be a mess, don't buy it, wait for the real players, the real fans of BioWare to play it (instead of these scrubs) and read to what they have to say, if it's good or not. Also, if you think is going to be a good game, then go ahead and buy it. Games aren't made to be perfect, they are made to allow us to have some fun... C'mon people the real world is already fucked up enough, don't let the same thing happen to something like video games.
I'll leave this question here to all of you: " To this day, Naughty Dog hasn't made any mistakes and everyone is excited about The Last of Us: Chapter 2, has anyone considered the fact is this can be the game were they end up making a HUGE mistake and the game ends up being one of the worst in gaming history? Would you guys keep buying their games, because you trust in their quality and hard work or would just say " fuk dis shit, I ain't buyin' dem games anymoar. " ???
The same question applies for Rockstar Games/Take-Two Interactive.
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Post by n7rhysj on Feb 25, 2017 18:48:33 GMT
Well done you for making common sense and for wanting to judge the game on its merits as a mass effect game the deep characters and engrossing story. I trust in bioware and will judge the game on its own merit.
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Post by urkibalurki on Feb 25, 2017 18:50:39 GMT
Game reviews are like those reviews of restaurants on sites like tripadvisor: perpetually unhappy people and trolls could destroy the reputation of whatever they are reviewing. And what are those "negative" reviewers complaining about?
- Bugs they found in the beta version BioWare gave them;
- Facial animations, still in that beta version.
Stop. They don't have other reasons! They could have written their crap into the "skepticism" thread in this forum, where a fuckton of haters rant about hot air.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 25, 2017 18:58:21 GMT
People are reading way too much into there previews, especially since they are the mostly positive.
But I do find it laughable how nobody is pointing out PC Gamer, one site that was the most negative. And while they also mentioned sub-par facial animations, their real concern was an unconvincing and somewhat weak villain introduction.
Now, sure, it does go to spoiler territory so many people are avoiding that discussion. But going after GI's preview who's only concerns were technical issues most likely fixed by this point, as they admit too.
Other one is Gamespot who worries it is too much DA:I in space, but there's like few other outlets who outright say it is nothing like DA:I in space. Press had only 3 hours to play the game, they could not judge it properly with such short time. Hence why they are previews, not reviews.
Really, wait until EA/Origin access when people will get to play first 10 hours. Then have a cause for concern for shown things.
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Post by KR96 on Feb 25, 2017 18:59:47 GMT
Not influenced by the reviews as much as the trailers. Anyone can see that the facial animations are poor. I can understand that those are difficult parts of a game to polish properly, but what I've seen so far just isn't good enough for a game which has been 5 years in the works and marketed as an AAA game.
I'll likely enjoy the game regardless, even though I'll probably still be disappointed if the day one patch doesn't improve the animations significantly as I've always felt that facial animations are important in conveying a story.
What I don't really understand is this crusade which is now being undertaken against the reviewers. They are just as much entitled to their opinion as you and I are. Some were outright positive and didn't voice any criticism, others were less positive and had some minor or major points of concern. If you're positive about the game that's great, if you're a sceptic then by all means try the trial first.
Feel free to voice your opinion, but don't belittle others for voicing theirs.
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Post by Madflavor on Feb 25, 2017 19:02:19 GMT
I need to be honest here guys, both Game Informer and Giant Bomb " reviews " were shameful and when I went to watch the Game Informer " reveiew ", I already was kinda thinking (wtf are these scrubs going to talk about) since we all know the classic Game Informer strat, they only seem to be excited about a game when the developer pays them to do the review and it became clear BioWare didn't. I've seen a lot of people hair going nuts, setting other people on fire and etc... Just because of some " non-positive reviews ", are guys for real worried about what some random dudes, yeah random dudes and lots of them probably never played the trilogy, talking about some things that aren't positive in this game? I mean, BioWare is good at their work, BUT THEY ARE NOT PERFECT. I've also seen a lot people still whining about the facial animations, BioWare said they were going to improve it and they did, wtf... Were you guys expecting Uncharted 4 facial animations? I think some people need to learn the difference between improving and making it PERFECT, I'm thinking about going on a hunt to see if I can find any tweet where any BioWare employee said that the facial animations would be perfect. To end this post, I'll say... Don't let these " reviews " change your mind. If you think this game is going to be a mess, don't buy it, wait for the real players, the real fans of BioWare to play it (instead of these scrubs) and read to what they have to say, if it's good or not. Also, if you think is going to be a good game, then go ahead and buy it. Games aren't made to be perfect, they are made to allow us to have some fun... C'mon people the real world is already fucked up enough, don't let the same thing happen to something like video games. I'll leave this question here to all of you: " To this day, Naughty Dog hasn't made any mistakes and everyone is excited about The Last of Us: Chapter 2, has anyone considered the fact is this can be the game were they end up making a HUGE mistake and the game ends up being one of the worst in gaming history? Would you guys keep buying their games, because you trust in their quality and hard work or would just say " fuk dis shit, I ain't buyin' dem games anymoar. " ??? The same question applies for Rockstar Games/Take-Two Interactive. Uhhh I was under the impression that pretty much every single preview was positive, and at worst there were a couple previews here and there that had concerns about whether or not the game would wow them. All we know is they played the first hour of the game, played some of the combat, explored the tempest, and talk to some squad mates. They didn't get to see the Nexus, preview a lot of the story, fought big bosses, or got to witness the highlights of the game. |
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Post by bshep on Feb 25, 2017 19:09:17 GMT
Uhhh I was under the impression that pretty much every single preview was positive, and at worst there were a couple previews here and there that had concerns about whether or not the game would wow them. All we know is they played the first hour of the game, played some of the combat, explored the tempest, and talk to some squad mates. They didn't get to see the Nexus, preview a lot of the story, fought big bosses, or got to witness the highlights of the game. There is only one that i remember that wasn't very positive. All others liked what they saw in the game, apart from the bugs problem (and two who talked about perfomance issues). So no reason to go crazy. |
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 25, 2017 19:14:35 GMT
MasterJukes , what's the real point of the OP? Are you against the reviews, which were mostly positive, mixed with valid criticism (precisely what I'd expect of a good review)? Or are you annoyed by the response of some to the reviews? If it's the latter, did we really need a separate thread, calling out those with whom you disagree as "whiners"? Why couldn't you offer your thoughts in the existing discussion threads?
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Post by Quickpaw on Feb 25, 2017 19:17:36 GMT
The people who are complaining about facial animation seem to bring up Horizon Zero Dawn and Uncharted a lot in their comparison, but guys...
1st:Those games have preset models on preset characters that we cannot customize the faces of, and have limited armor options to boot. I have little doubt that the monstrosities we will be creating in the CC will interfere a LOT with the facial animations. Only so much to be done there. It links also to the hairstyle issue where there was a link to a gif of Lara Croft in the new set of TR games. I hope you realize just how much work that one... ONE hairstyle took to make it even SEMI-realistic (and some systems couldn't even handle it, leading them to add the option to turn the dynamic ponytail off).
2nd:Sheer length. Uncharted and Horizon are narrative based games, yes, but Nathan Drake spends far less of his time talking to people and giving close-ups than just running or shooting. Horizon is slated to be around 30-50 hours for a completionist, but it still can't match the probable 100+ hours of Andromeda, or even Inquisition before it. Both also have far less character interaction than Bioware fans are used to indulging in, and thus it is far easier to polish every aspect of those shorter games' facial animations to make them all purty.
3rd:Lack of motion capture. Tying into the length issue, motion capture is still WAY too expensive for the amount of conversations and characters that Bioware usually puts into its games, facially at least. The number of rigs you have to compensate for is incredible even for the shorter games, and it can't be applied to customizable characters anyway.
This is not to say Bioware's games can't be improved in this regard: they most certainly can. And they're going to have to up their game in the near future to survive comparisons like I've been hearing to other game franchises. But I'm giving them some wiggle-room here because they genuinely have been improving with every game they've released, and no animation system is perfect especially dealing with a pc whose face and armor can be so drastically different. Experience the game before you raise your pitchforks, at least.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 25, 2017 19:20:56 GMT
The people who are complaining about facial animation seem to bring up Horizon Zero Dawn and Uncharted a lot in their comparison, but guys... 1st:Those games have preset models on preset characters that we cannot customize the faces of, and have limited armor options to boot. I have little doubt that the monstrosities we will be creating in the CC will interfere a LOT with the facial animations. Only so much to be done there. It links also to the hairstyle issue where there was a link to a gif of Lara Croft in the new set of TR games. I hope you realize just how much work that one... ONE hairstyle took to make it even SEMI-realistic (and some systems couldn't even handle it, leading them to add the option to turn the dynamic ponytail off). 2nd:Sheer length. Uncharted and Horizon are narrative based games, yes, but Nathan Drake spends far less of his time talking to people and giving close-ups than just running or shooting. Horizon is slated to be around 30-50 hours for a completionist, but it still can't match the probable 100+ hours of Andromeda, or even Inquisition before it. Both also have far less character interaction than Bioware fans are used to indulging in, and thus it is far easier to polish every aspect of those shorter games' facial animations to make them all purty. 3rd:Lack of motion capture. Tying into the length issue, motion capture is still WAY too expensive for the amount of conversations and characters that Bioware usually puts into its games, facially at least. The number of rigs you have to compensate for is incredible even for the shorter games, and it can't be applied to customizable characters anyway. This is not to say Bioware's games can't be improved in this regard: they most certainly can. And they're going to have to up their game in the near future to survive comparisons like I've been hearing to other game franchises. But I'm giving them some wiggle-room here because they genuinely have been improving with every game they've released, and no animation system is perfect especially dealing with a pc whose face and armor can be so drastically different. Experience the game before you raise your pitchforks, at least. I'd recommend checking out the relevant thread in this forum, where these games aren't at all mentioned (excepting one dedicated troll.) I don't think BioWare's fans expect BioWare games to look like the above. That's apples and oranges. They want quality animation, though; and Fb3 + facial mo-cap has stumped the MEA team, thus far. |
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Post by MasterJukes on Feb 25, 2017 20:06:15 GMT
and at worst there were a couple previews here and there that had concerns about whether or not the game would wow them. Exactly, because of this very few non-positive reviews... I've seen people going nuts already and saying Andromeda is going to be the worst game of all time, that BioWare is doomed and EA is the devil himself. C'mon, people need to chill the fuck out. |
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Post by stealthfox94 on Feb 25, 2017 20:08:58 GMT
Haven't most of the "reviews" been positive though? Outside the bugs and facial animations thing?
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Post by Cirvante on Feb 25, 2017 20:13:10 GMT
And here we can see a biodrone in it's natural habitat.
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Post by MasterJukes on Feb 25, 2017 20:13:45 GMT
MasterJukes , what's the real point of the OP? Are you against the reviews, which were mostly positive, mixed with valid criticism (precisely what I'd expect of a good review)? Or are you annoyed by the response of some to the reviews? If it's the latter, did we really need a separate thread, calling out those with whom you disagree as "whiners"? Why couldn't you offer your thoughts in the existing discussion threads? I'm talking about those who read about very few non-positive reviews are going freakin' nuts for no reason at all. And yes, some people are just whining about facial animations because they have nothin' better to do and they just like to be attention whores, I'll say only one to thing to those that aren't making any kind of constructive criticism: " Get your shit together, go to BioWare and show them how make real facial animations yourself, otherwise SHUT THE FUCK UP... Stupid troll. " I'm sorry my friend, I don't know if you are aware about the differences of being helpful by pointing out to BioWare where they can improve and being a random troll. When I told about whiners in this post, I'm referring to the trolls who have nothing better to do with their miserable lives. If I have offended you in any manner, I ask for an apology to you and all those who are making constructive criticism towards BioWare. |
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Post by n7rhysj on Feb 25, 2017 20:17:58 GMT
I think the game from the previews is succeeding in what it's told us it will be an enhanced me3 combat and a new story that has mass effect 1 vibes again what they have told us from this point of view it seems like the game will succeed
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Post by MasterJukes on Feb 25, 2017 20:18:36 GMT
And here we can see a biodrone in it's natural habitat. Yes, me a " biodrone ", the only one amongst dozens of friends who decided to burn his Mass Effect 3 copy after that stupid and retarded ending, the only one who spent hours of his life criticizing BioWare because of all the lazyness they've shown to us in 2012. Still, I'm ready to give BioWare another chance for them to impress me, but I liked the nickname you given me... Let me give you one as well, what about smudboy's fanbitch  , what do you think? Because I've seen smudboy's fanbitches spamming the term " biodrone " dozens of times in his videos comment section. |
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Post by MasterJukes on Feb 25, 2017 20:20:33 GMT
I think the game from the previews is succeeding in what it's told us it will be an enhanced me3 combat and a new story that has mass effect 1 vibes again what they have told us from this point of view it seems like the game will succeed Still I wonder, why there are some people going nuts because of a couple of non-positive reviews? Aaah, the world is always full of surprises isn't it? |
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Post by n7rhysj on Feb 25, 2017 20:25:41 GMT
Some people just want everything best way is to wait for the game to come out and judge for themselves
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Post by empirex on Feb 25, 2017 20:30:38 GMT
Make your own opinion. You don't NEED other people's positive or negative opinion to create your own.
End of story.
Moving on.
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Post by n7vakarian on Feb 25, 2017 20:41:53 GMT
I really don't care what some overpaid reviewer thinks of a game. I make the choice to buy it and play it and I form my own opinion base on that.
Besides all the "big" sites are paid for reviews these days
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Post by peabuddie on Feb 25, 2017 20:42:53 GMT
Not influenced by the reviews as much as the trailers. Anyone can see that the facial animations are poor. I can understand that those are difficult parts of a game to polish properly, but what I've seen so far just isn't good enough for a game which has been 5 years in the works and marketed as an AAA game. I'll likely enjoy the game regardless, even though I'll probably still be disappointed if the day one patch doesn't improve the animations significantly as I've always felt that facial animations are important in conveying a story. What I don't really understand is this crusade which is now being undertaken against the reviewers. They are just as much entitled to their opinion as you and I are. Some were outright positive and didn't voice any criticism, others were less positive and had some minor or major points of concern. If you're positive about the game that's great, if you're a sceptic then by all means try the trial first. Feel free to voice your opinion, but don't belittle others for voicing theirs. "Press had only 3 hours to play the game, they could not judge it properly with such short time." You mean like 80% of Metacritic user critiques? Lol. "I've only played (insert any game) 2 hours but OMG it is the greatest game evvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvver!" 10/10! Really in the end we can only judge for ourselves. If only we could get an objective opinion before we buy.....what a wonderful world it would be. |
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Post by disi on Feb 25, 2017 20:43:27 GMT
I just watched this and she said exactly what I wanted to hear or what I read out of it: Instead of Renegade/Paragon we still get a meter but it is emotional/rational instead. No DAI system and not no system at all. She speculated if her own banter may change if she goes too much rational for example. I can see myself becoming Spock-like  Conversations/interactions matter, of the planets she visited she only had combat on one of them. We will have some sort of loot for crafting next to an extended ME-Blueprint system. Makes me thinking about inventory space limitations (hoarder panic mode), but in pretty much any game I played, I could mod/cheat my way to infinite inventory space. Combat is like ME3 really with dynamic cover but another step up, I guess you are not glued to cover like you used to. Human faces look odd, but this is what everyone says and sees. Could be patched later? And she kind of confirmed it is not as dark themed as the other games, with companions joking it felt just different than ME1-3 (not bad). p.s. there are so many reviews out there, just pick which one you like most. Maybe, just maybe some of the too negative ones are just there to gather clicks? |
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Post by The Twilight God on Feb 25, 2017 20:49:08 GMT
1.) we all know the classic Game Informer strat, they only seem to be excited about a game when the developer pays them to do the review and it became clear BioWare didn't. 2.) I mean, BioWare is good at their work, BUT THEY ARE NOT PERFECT. 3.) I've also seen a lot people still whining about the facial animations, BioWare said they were going to improve it and they did, wtf... Were you guys expecting Uncharted 4 facial animations? "I've seen a lot of people hair going nuts, setting other people on fire and etc... Just because of some " non-positive reviews ", are guys for real worried about what some random dudes, yeah random dudes and lots of them probably never played the trilogy, talking about some things that aren't positive in this game?" 4.) If you think this game is going to be a mess, don't buy it, wait for the real players, the real fans of BioWare to play it (instead of these scrubs) and read to what they have to say, if it's good or not. Also, if you think is going to be a good game, then go ahead and buy it. Games aren't made to be perfect, they are made to allow us to have some fun... C'mon people the real world is already fucked up enough, don't let the same thing happen to something like video games. 5.) I'll leave this question here to all of you: " To this day, Naughty Dog hasn't made any mistakes and everyone is excited about The Last of Us: Chapter 2, has anyone considered the fact is this can be the game were they end up making a HUGE mistake and the game ends up being one of the worst in gaming history? Would you guys keep buying their games, because you trust in their quality and hard work or would just say " fuk dis shit, I ain't buyin' dem games anymoar. " ???
1.) Were can I find the page detailing their review payment plan? 2.) Are they good at their work? 3.) Yes, I expect the best facial animations possible. 4.) You say some random dudes whose opinions you find unfavorable don't matter and then follow with a line stating that we should care about some random dudes who you baselessly predict will have opinions you agree with. OK. I take it we'll know who the "real fans" are based on their positive opinion of the game. 5.) No, I wouldn't buy their games... blindly. And I wouldn't buy MEA just because Mac Walters wasn't fired over ME3 ending, lack of storytelling consistency, disregard for established lore and general "I don't give a fuck attitude" when it came to the series. Instead they promoted him.
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elementzero
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 25, 2017 21:03:42 GMT
MasterJukes , what's the real point of the OP? Are you against the reviews, which were mostly positive, mixed with valid criticism (precisely what I'd expect of a good review)? Or are you annoyed by the response of some to the reviews? If it's the latter, did we really need a separate thread, calling out those with whom you disagree as "whiners"? Why couldn't you offer your thoughts in the existing discussion threads? I'm talking about those who read about very few non-positive reviews are going freakin' nuts for no reason at all. And yes, some people are just whining about facial animations because they have nothin' better to do and they just like to be attention whores, I'll say only one to thing to those that aren't making any kind of constructive criticism: " Get your shit together, go to BioWare and show them how make real facial animations yourself, otherwise SHUT THE FUCK UP... Stupid troll. " I'm sorry my friend, I don't know if you are aware about the differences of being helpful by pointing out to BioWare where they can improve and being a random troll. When I told about whiners in this post, I'm referring to the trolls who have nothing better to do with their miserable lives. If I have offended you in any manner, I ask for an apology to you and all those who are making constructive criticism towards BioWare. I'm not offended. I do get the impression that you created this thread to complain about other threads. You could've simply voiced your opinion by engaging in conversation in those very threads. I also think threads like these divide, or attempt to divide, the community into camps. I don't like to see that happen. We're all members of the same niche community. We don't need little factions and divisions. I know that persons and topics can get irritating around this forum. My advice would be to simply talk it out, or to take a break. Starting a "counter thread" is rarely a good idea. As to people "whining" about facial animations, I'll paste this response I posted in another thread. Someone in that thread had called it "nitpicking". Like it or not, the complaints have proven both valid and productive. For clarity's sake, I think the animations are subpar, but I'm not too upset. BioWare has always had poor animations, excepting aliens. Original post found in context here: bsn.boards.net/post/323894/threadThat "nitpicking" is what elicited BioWare's immediate promise to refine animations following the December gameplay reveal. The same nitpicking resulted in updated character kits, and BioWare's explaining why the initial kits sucked (they weren't yet proficient with the tech.)
The criticism regarding poor animation has been pretty much universally echoed by the media personnel who had a chance to play the game, last week. Their descriptions ranged from "extremely dated and cartoony" to "abysmal". BioWare promises to keep working on this via the day one patch.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 25, 2017 21:48:24 GMT
I need to be honest here guys, both Game Informer and Giant Bomb " reviews " were shameful and when I went to watch the Game Informer " reveiew ", I already was kinda thinking (wtf are these scrubs going to talk about) since we all know the classic Game Informer strat, they only seem to be excited about a game when the developer pays them to do the review and it became clear BioWare didn't. I've seen a lot of people hair going nuts, setting other people on fire and etc... Just because of some " non-positive reviews ", are guys for real worried about what some random dudes, yeah random dudes and lots of them probably never played the trilogy, talking about some things that aren't positive in this game? I mean, BioWare is good at their work, BUT THEY ARE NOT PERFECT. I've also seen a lot people still whining about the facial animations, BioWare said they were going to improve it and they did, wtf... Were you guys expecting Uncharted 4 facial animations? I think some people need to learn the difference between improving and making it PERFECT, I'm thinking about going on a hunt to see if I can find any tweet where any BioWare employee said that the facial animations would be perfect. To end this post, I'll say... Don't let these " reviews " change your mind. If you think this game is going to be a mess, don't buy it, wait for the real players, the real fans of BioWare to play it (instead of these scrubs) and read to what they have to say, if it's good or not. Also, if you think is going to be a good game, then go ahead and buy it. Games aren't made to be perfect, they are made to allow us to have some fun... C'mon people the real world is already fucked up enough, don't let the same thing happen to something like video games. I'll leave this question here to all of you: " To this day, Naughty Dog hasn't made any mistakes and everyone is excited about The Last of Us: Chapter 2, has anyone considered the fact is this can be the game were they end up making a HUGE mistake and the game ends up being one of the worst in gaming history? Would you guys keep buying their games, because you trust in their quality and hard work or would just say " fuk dis shit, I ain't buyin' dem games anymoar. " ??? The same question applies for Rockstar Games/Take-Two Interactive. Very nicely said. I found all the reviews I watched/read to be very exciting. What I gathered from them is that MEA feels very much like a Mass Effect game, the Nomad handles fantastically, the setting is beautiful, the combat is super fun, the characters are interesting and well written, the story seems to be another classic well-written Bioware story, and most seem to think it will be very good. There were issues, and that makes sense because it was an older build (people say 2 weeks old, but you have to think that they got the press build done at least a bit before the press got there, so I'm guessing closer to a month old) and they have squashed a lot of bugs since then, as well as now working on the Day 1 patch which will fix more issues. The only complaints that were consistent across reviewers was some bugs, which will get ironed out, and facial animations, which is par for the course for a Bioware game and will continue to get better anyway. I'm not terribly worried about not having Uncharted-level facial animations. I just don't care that much. As far as "The Last of Us" goes, I think a lot of people get caught up in the emotion of the game from completing it and see it through rose-colored glasses. I played a few hours of it and never finished it and I honestly thought it wasn't that great. It certainly didn't pull me in, and the controls I thought were very subpar. Call me a "hipster" or a "hater", whatever. If you love that game, that's perfectly fine! For some of my closest friends it is their favorite game ever! I love that they love it. It's great to be excited about something. But for me personally it isn't the end-all-be-all of games. Nor is The Witcher 3. Assuredly a very good game, but honestly for me seemed almost as grindy as DAI. Some people love it, and that's great! Honestly, just wasn't my kind of game. So to each their own, I say. I've already pre-ordered MEA and will probably get EA Access so I can play the first ten hours early, just because I'm so excited. The reviews so far have only excited me more, and I'm excited to see my favorite YouTube Lets-Players get their hands on it to see what they think (spoiler-free, of course). I trust them more than a lot of the reviewers they had anyway. I think my favorite was Kinda Funny Gaming's review. I trust them for sure, and they seemed to really enjoy it. |
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, what do you think? Because I've seen smudboy's fanbitches spamming the term " biodrone " dozens of times in his videos comment section.
