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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 28, 2017 2:29:41 GMT
It is not argument for argument's sake, and I am glad the condescension towards the developers bothers you lol. We can break down the entire scene, play-by-play, and we can disagree at the end of it. What I said is not really arguable - they could have done the scene better, with more realism, but they didn't. If that makes the storytelling better for you, well I would say you should consider fantasy as your genre and not SCIENCE FICTION. More realism would not have utilized a weapon of any type to trigger the crucible device regardless of the decision made. It should have been simply select button A, B, or C. Really, who boots up a computer by firing a few slugs into it and it's certainly not the way anyone normally detonates a bomb or sets off an EMP. Attacking my argument by using the ME3MP ending is hilarious. By the time ME3 came around, it was no longer science fiction, it was SuperColored SuperHero time. However, Elvis used a gun to change the channel, so if that's what it takes to fire up a Mass Effect computer, then we will playing Mass Elvis. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 2:33:58 GMT
More realism would not have utilized a weapon of any type to trigger the crucible device regardless of the decision made. It should have been simply select button A, B, or C. Really, who boots up a computer by firing a few slugs into it and it's certainly not the way anyone normally detonates a bomb or sets off an EMP. Attacking my argument by using the ME3MP ending is hilarious. By the time ME3 came around, it was no longer science fiction, it was SuperColored SuperHero time. However, Elvis used a gun to change the channel, so if that's what it takes to fire up a Mass Effect computer, then we will playing Mass Elvis. I don't play ME3MP so I have no idea what you're going on about. I've worked with explosives... we don't set them off by firing guns at them... and if that's the way you boot up your computer, your warranty is probably invalid as well. |
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 28, 2017 5:05:49 GMT
This isn't Rainbow Six, Arma, or even Metal Gear Solid, so I don't care. edit: But let me amend this because it did annoy the shit out of me that no one held SMG's correctly, so I understand why it bothers people. I haven't been keeping up with the latest gameplay footage, can we hold SMG's the correct way now? Using the forward grip with the supporting hand? I haven't been keeping up with the latest gameplay footage, can we hold SMG's the correct way now? Using the forward grip with the supporting hand? Correct. You only see it briefly, but Sara grabs the Tempest/Charger by the ammo block for support in the combat trailer after placing the proximity mine. Her hand actually shifts from an underbarrel support grip to holding the ammo block, which was a nice touch. Yep. To lend this observation "official backing", Ian confirmed that SMGs are now properly wielded, according to their designs. This is a nice, and honestly unexpected, improvement. I feel like the team really has tried to attack a lot of the obvious issues, though there are plenty more to go. Progress is being made, I think. |
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Post by jayhartric on Feb 28, 2017 10:31:49 GMT
The weapons actually dont allow you to shook friendlies in the original games. Try it and see.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 28, 2017 11:11:09 GMT
OP, the devs either looked at this level of detail (I really doubt it) and have implemented it, or they didn't and it's not in the game. You're about 6 months too late with your idea. Besides with this fanbase, perhaps the kind of "gun safety" Bio needs to show belongs in the romance discussion thread dealing with sexual practices. I doubt half the people around here have ever fired a weapon...and likely never will. But they're all trying to get laid.
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Post by General Mahad on Mar 1, 2017 3:37:37 GMT
The weapons actually dont allow you to shook friendlies in the original games. Try it and see. So do almost every shooter on the market, that's a gameplay and not lore element. |
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 1, 2017 8:50:05 GMT
These are guns from the future where they don't fire unless you want them to. More than likely the user indirectly controls firearm activation through his/her use of implants.
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Post by kumazan on Mar 1, 2017 9:29:10 GMT
OP, the devs either looked at this level of detail (I really doubt it) and have implemented it, or they didn't and it's not in the game. You're about 6 months too late with your idea. Besides with this fanbase, perhaps the kind of "gun safety" Bio needs to show belongs in the romance discussion thread dealing with sexual practices. I doubt half the people around here have ever fired a weapon...and likely never will. But they're all trying to get laid. Getting laid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firing a weapon, fact.  |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Mar 1, 2017 10:02:27 GMT
These are guns from the future where they don't fire unless you want them to. More than likely the user indirectly controls firearm activation through his/her use of implants. Then why do they have triggers? If the guns were controlled via implants it would make them completely unnecessary. If the triggers are used to fire the gun, well, standard gun safety rules apply. |
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Post by snorkamus on Mar 1, 2017 10:09:01 GMT
I enjoy living Australia where yo don't have to worry about gun safety, if you want to shoot something in Australia, you play a video game! nothing safer.
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Post by hotdogbsg on Mar 1, 2017 10:43:36 GMT
I doubt half the people around here have ever fired a weapon...and likely never will. But they're all trying to get laid. Priorities. |
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 1, 2017 10:47:19 GMT
Every morning before I go to work I take a dump on other peoples "immersion".
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Mar 1, 2017 11:30:43 GMT
I enjoy living Australia where yo don't have to worry about gun safety, if you want to shoot something in Australia, you play a video game! nothing safer. I'm an avid gun owner, target (rifle) shooter and I know quite a lot of fellow gun owners in Australia. |
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Post by General Aetius on Mar 1, 2017 11:41:30 GMT
I hope the Bioware Mass Effect team has not forgotten the gun safety rules. Cutscenes where characters blatantly ignore the safety rules would break the immersion for me, those are highly trained individuals after all. Nothing screams ''unprofessional'' like not following the gun safety rules. A Gun Is Always Loaded Never Point The Gun At Something You Are Not Prepared To DestroyKeep Your Finger Off The Trigger Until Your Sights Are On The TargetAlways Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Behind It Liam is about to shoot Scott in the ass and Cora + Pebee seem to have hatred for the floor, because they are ready to shoot it to pieces.   You're losing it media.giphy.com/media/Ti3i7TumKRkdi/giphy.gif |
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Post by snorkamus on Mar 1, 2017 12:01:12 GMT
I enjoy living Australia where yo don't have to worry about gun safety, if you want to shoot something in Australia, you play a video game! nothing safer. I'm an avid gun owner, target (rifle) shooter and I know quite a lot of fellow gun owners in Australia. I know a guy that knew i guy who lived up north who lived near a farmer who had a gun... |
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 1, 2017 12:03:31 GMT
These are guns from the future where they don't fire unless you want them to. More than likely the user indirectly controls firearm activation through his/her use of implants. Then why do they have triggers? If the guns were controlled via implants it would make them completely unnecessary. If the triggers are used to fire the gun, well, standard gun safety rules apply. I said the implants are used for activation. Its a 2 part process for gun safety. The gun must first be activated via implants, then you must fire via the trigger. If you press the trigger of an inactive gun, it won't fire. Basically an elaborate safety mechanism that is controlled by impants. |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Mar 1, 2017 12:07:49 GMT
Then why do they have triggers? If the guns were controlled via implants it would make them completely unnecessary. If the triggers are used to fire the gun, well, standard gun safety rules apply. I said the implants are used for activation. Its a 2 part process for gun safety. The gun must first be activated via implants, then you must fire via the trigger. If you press the trigger of an inactive gun, it won't fire. Basically an elaborate safety mechanism that is controlled by impants. We already have safety switches on guns, but even when the safety is engaged it is a very unwise idea to muzzle-swipe people and having your finger on the trigger. Especially since the people you muzzle -swipe don't know the safety is engaged, they have to assume you're aiming at them with a loaded gun and/or handling the gun in a very unsafe manner. Doing that will result in a permaban on any shooting range around the world and if that happens in the military you will be cleaning dirty toilets for the next three weeks. For a good reason. Look who's talking. |
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 1, 2017 12:12:26 GMT
I said the implants are used for activation. Its a 2 part process for gun safety. The gun must first be activated via implants, then you must fire via the trigger. If you press the trigger of an inactive gun, it won't fire. Basically an elaborate safety mechanism that is controlled by impants. We already have safety switches on guns, but even when the safety is engaged it is a very unwise idea to muzzle-swipe people and having your finger on the trigger. Especially since the people you muzzle -swipe don't know the safety is engaged, they have to assume you're aiming at them with a loaded gun and/or handling the gun in a very unsafe manner. Doing that will result in a permaban on any shooting range and if that happens in the military you will be cleaning dirty toilets for the next three weeks. For a good reason. Look who's talking. It doesn't matter anyway, by the 22nd century guns will be like bows and arrows. Nobody will own one because they will be a relic of an earlier time. If I wanted to kill someone, I would just activate a neural implant and think them to death by causing their brain to explode or something, or an artery to rupture because of some field being generated by my implants. So are guns themselves still being around not breaking the immersion?? I have to believe we can build better weapons than that. People with guns are essentially like chimps with pointy sticks. You wouldn't want to scratch your arse with a pointy stick either. |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Mar 1, 2017 12:18:18 GMT
We already have safety switches on guns, but even when the safety is engaged it is a very unwise idea to muzzle-swipe people and having your finger on the trigger. Especially since the people you muzzle -swipe don't know the safety is engaged, they have to assume you're aiming at them with a loaded gun and/or handling the gun in a very unsafe manner. Doing that will result in a permaban on any shooting range and if that happens in the military you will be cleaning dirty toilets for the next three weeks. For a good reason. Look who's talking. It doesn't matter anyway, by the 22nd century guns will be like bows and arrows. Nobody will own one because they will be a relic of an earlier time. If I wanted to kill someone, I would just activate a neural implant and think them to death by causing their brain to explode or something, or an artery to rupture because of some field being generated by my implants. So are guns themselves still being around not breaking the immersion?? I have to believe we can build better weapons than that. People with guns are essentially like chimps with pointy sticks. You wouldn't want to scratch your arse with a pointy stick either. Who knows, after the inevitable global nuclear holocaust the survivors may be shooting each other with crude muzzle loaders and bows since all the modern production facilities vanished in the nuclear firestorm.  |
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 1, 2017 12:21:52 GMT
It doesn't matter anyway, by the 22nd century guns will be like bows and arrows. Nobody will own one because they will be a relic of an earlier time. If I wanted to kill someone, I would just activate a neural implant and think them to death by causing their brain to explode or something, or an artery to rupture because of some field being generated by my implants. So are guns themselves still being around not breaking the immersion?? I have to believe we can build better weapons than that. People with guns are essentially like chimps with pointy sticks. You wouldn't want to scratch your arse with a pointy stick either. Who knows, after the inevitable global nuclear holocaust the survivors may be shooting each other with crude muzzle loaders and bows since all the modern production facilities vanished in the nuclear firestorm. I live in Ireland so not exactly a nuclear target. While the rest of the world is burning, we can just build implants to, yanno, make peoples brains explode by thinking it. And then we can take over the world and run it properly for once. JFK was an irish president and they tried to assassinate him because he was too good. |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Mar 1, 2017 12:23:31 GMT
Who knows, after the inevitable global nuclear holocaust the survivors may be shooting each other with crude muzzle loaders and bows since all the modern production facilities vanished in the nuclear firestorm. I live in Ireland so not exactly a nuclear target. While the rest of the world is burning, we can just build implants to, yanno, make peoples brains explode by thinking it. If the cause for the nuclear war is world wide prohibition Ireland is among the first targets. |
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 1, 2017 12:25:17 GMT
I live in Ireland so not exactly a nuclear target. While the rest of the world is burning, we can just build implants to, yanno, make peoples brains explode by thinking it. If the cause for the nuclear war is world wide prohibition Ireland is among the first targets. Prohibition was such a dumb idea. We drink and have produced more nobel prize winners and literary greats than the rest of the world combined. Food for thought. Theres one nobel prize winner for every 100,000 people. |
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