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Post by peebee on Feb 28, 2017 21:56:49 GMT
Sera 2.0 confirmed I guess. Yay?...  Umm not really for me. I was neutral with Sera, but worst thing for me was that I couldn't understand what she said half the time, so I just didn't laugh with her... not sure if the accent or the slang or whatever it was. Till this day I don't understand breeches. Peebee at least I haven't had a problem understanding yet. (english isn't my first language so maybe it was just me) Sera had her mind made and didn't like having her views questioned, even when they were kinda of like... proven wrong. Pretty close minded if you ask me, not like Peebee who wants to know more about stuff and is open minded in general. I thought it was interesting when Sera (spoiler for DAI) Kills that noble if you don't do it soon enough, she does her own thing, it might be wrong but I like how she's doesn't ask for permission and just have to deal with the consequences later, you can be angry with her and all, it's a stupid action but it feels alive for me. You'll probably be able to answer to Peebee's actions in a reprimanding way, also, that is a loyalty mission so I think they'll make it clear you're triggering something like that before you go talk with her or in whatever way that is triggered.
Peebee is a nerd, Sera was definitely not one. Peebee is cheerful, excited (yay vault!), Sera might be those things to some but for ME she was just mad all the time and criticizing everything, in a not sure if truthful cheerful way. Anyways there's more differences I notice but this is the basic stuff. Also those are my views of the characters and I think we don't know enough about Peebee yet. |
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 28, 2017 21:56:53 GMT
Ok so I'm genuinely curious... Why is everyone jumping to conclusions and comparing PB to Sera? I don't see it tbh. She seems annoyingly childish in situations that are life or death, for start. I certainly don't mind a character with a sense of humor... but people who just can't ever "turn it off" drive me nuts. Time and a place. |
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 21:56:58 GMT
Ok so I'm genuinely curious... Why is everyone jumping to conclusions and comparing PB to Sera? I don't see it tbh. She's kind of giving of that unnatural try-hard quirky/chipper, overtly childish thing with her banters during this. I mean, of course, I will give her the benefit of the doubt, it's only a 15 minute clip after all. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 21:56:59 GMT
Ok so I'm genuinely curious... Why is everyone jumping to conclusions and comparing PB to Sera? I don't see it tbh. Dunno... DAI trauma?  For people who've played SWTOR I would compare PB to Vette moreso by what we've seen. They were even written by the same writer. I just don't see the Sera thing. What aspect of PB is it other than the subjective annoyance that makes her similar to sera? |
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Post by Wulfram on Feb 28, 2017 21:57:26 GMT
Sera isn't difficult to parse because of her accent/dialect, she's difficult to parse because she's very stream of consciousness - and her consciousness is kinda weird too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 22:05:10 GMT
So childish, annoying, and humourous.
Any other adjectives?
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 22:05:46 GMT
Sera 2.0 confirmed I guess. Yay?... Umm not really for me. I was neutral with Sera, but worst thing for me was that I couldn't understand what she said half the time, so I just didn't laugh with her... not sure if the accent or the slang or whatever it was. Till this day I don't understand breeches. Peebee at least I haven't had a problem understanding yet. (english isn't my first language so maybe it was just me) Sera had her mind made and didn't like having her views questioned, even when they were kinda of like... proven wrong. Pretty close minded if you ask me, not like Peebee who wants to know more about stuff and is open minded in general. I thought it was interesting when Sera (spoiler for DAI) Kills that noble if you don't do it soon enough, she does her own thing, it might be wrong but I like how she's doesn't ask for permission and just have to deal with the consequences later, you can be angry with her and all, it's a stupid action but it feels alive for me. You'll probably be able to answer to Peebee's actions in a reprimanding way, also, that is a loyalty mission so I think they'll make it clear you're triggering something like that before you go talk with her or in whatever way that is triggered.
Peebee is a nerd, Sera was definitely not one. Peebee is cheerful, excited (yay vault!), Sera might be those things to some but for ME she was just mad all the time and criticizing everything, in a not sure if truthful cheerful way.
Anyways there's more differences I notice but this is the basic stuff. Also those are my views of the characters and I think we don't know enough about Peebee yet. Hmm, good point, actually. Aside from her brazen ignorance, one of the things I hated most about Sera was how almost EVERYTHING she said was dismissive and negative in the most banal ways. 'Ugh, that's STUPID. Elves are STUPID. Magic is so STUPID. I don't like beautiful vistas, they're STUPID. The complex tragedy and beauty of the human experience? Stupid.' Nobody likes being around that. If Peebee is the opposite, I can handle that, even if she's a bit much. |
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 28, 2017 22:06:53 GMT
So childish, annoying, and humourous. Any other adjectives? I'd swap humorous for irritating, but humor is subjective, I guess. |
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 28, 2017 22:08:33 GMT
From her concept, she was clearly supposed to be like a revolutionary Marxist/Anarchist character, street smart and politically motivated. Instead she's...a totally ignorant dumbass. Can't she be both? She's also right about a lot of stuff... OK, only by accident, but it still counts. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 22:10:03 GMT
I'm still not seeing it. What has been described here could be said about many other characters in many other games, movies, tv shows and it's mostly subjective, not even an actual comparison.
I think we need to know a lot more before trying to actually call her "Sera 2.0"
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 28, 2017 22:11:11 GMT
From her concept, she was clearly supposed to be like a revolutionary Marxist/Anarchist character, street smart and politically motivated. Instead she's...a totally ignorant dumbass. Can't she be both? She's also right about a lot of stuff... OK, only by accident, but it still counts. Sure she can, but it's my option as the player to not interact with her because of it... |
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 28, 2017 22:15:19 GMT
I'm still not seeing it. What has been described here could be said about many other characters in many other games, movies, tv shows and it's mostly subjective, not even an actual comparison. I think we need to know a lot more before trying to actually call her "Sera 2.0" Uh... ok? No one ever said Sera was the first of her kind. There is clearly an archetype at work here. The quirky, funny, but immature/inappropriate girl who "dances to the beat of her own drum". Sera fit into this archetype, albeit in particularly annoying fashion. Peebee also fits this archetype but the execution obviously wont be identical. |
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Post by Ahriman on Feb 28, 2017 22:15:22 GMT
I'll never get used to pain from watching people aim with controller...  Graphics are fine, combat is okay too, but this scanning... Shepard have mercy. Does anyone really find that constant scanning fun? Like seriously? Scan suspicious rocks to find a console inside? Scan broken console so Observer could understand it needs to be fixed? It's smart enough to fix things, but not enough to detect that they are broken? The hell is that? |
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Post by peebee on Feb 28, 2017 22:15:37 GMT
Umm not really for me. I was neutral with Sera, but worst thing for me was that I couldn't understand what she said half the time, so I just didn't laugh with her... not sure if the accent or the slang or whatever it was. Till this day I don't understand breeches. Peebee at least I haven't had a problem understanding yet. (english isn't my first language so maybe it was just me) Sera had her mind made and didn't like having her views questioned, even when they were kinda of like... proven wrong. Pretty close minded if you ask me, not like Peebee who wants to know more about stuff and is open minded in general. I thought it was interesting when Sera (spoiler for DAI) Kills that noble if you don't do it soon enough, she does her own thing, it might be wrong but I like how she's doesn't ask for permission and just have to deal with the consequences later, you can be angry with her and all, it's a stupid action but it feels alive for me. You'll probably be able to answer to Peebee's actions in a reprimanding way, also, that is a loyalty mission so I think they'll make it clear you're triggering something like that before you go talk with her or in whatever way that is triggered.
Peebee is a nerd, Sera was definitely not one. Peebee is cheerful, excited (yay vault!), Sera might be those things to some but for ME she was just mad all the time and criticizing everything, in a not sure if truthful cheerful way.
Anyways there's more differences I notice but this is the basic stuff. Also those are my views of the characters and I think we don't know enough about Peebee yet. Hmm, good point, actually. Aside from her brazen ignorance, one of the things I hated most about Sera was how almost EVERYTHING she said was dismissive and negative in the most banal ways. 'Ugh, that's STUPID. Elves are STUPID. Magic is so STUPID. I don't like beautiful vistas, they're STUPID. The complex tragedy and beauty of the human experience? Stupid.' Nobody likes being around that. If Peebee is the opposite, I can handle that, even if she's a bit much. yep, that's was the part, besides not understanding what she said, that I disliked the most. Not everything is stupid Sera >: She was so negative... Peebee seems positive, sweet, and a little bit innocent in the way she speaks but also cunning in her actions... irresponsible but that shouldn't come without consequence. Of course she's annoyed with that Kalinda person cause she wants to get the Remnant thing first, but outside of that I don't think she would complain much. |
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 28, 2017 22:15:54 GMT
I was neutral with Sera, but worst thing for me was that I couldn't understand what she said half the time, so I just didn't laugh with her... not sure if the accent or the slang or whatever it was. Till this day I don't understand breeches. Peebee at least I haven't had a problem understanding yet. (english isn't my first language so maybe it was just me) A lot of Sera's dialogue is either obsolete words, UK slang, or both at once. It's not surprising that a non-native speaker would have trouble following her. Breeches are pants, FWIW. |
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 28, 2017 22:17:54 GMT
Hmm, good point, actually. Aside from her brazen ignorance, one of the things I hated most about Sera was how almost EVERYTHING she said was dismissive and negative in the most banal ways. 'Ugh, that's STUPID. Elves are STUPID. Magic is so STUPID. I don't like beautiful vistas, they're STUPID. The complex tragedy and beauty of the human experience? Stupid.' Nobody likes being around that. If Peebee is the opposite, I can handle that, even if she's a bit much. yep, that's was the part, besides not understanding what she said, that I disliked the most. Not everything is stupid Sera >: She was so negative... It's called post modernism...  |
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 22:18:08 GMT
From her concept, she was clearly supposed to be like a revolutionary Marxist/Anarchist character, street smart and politically motivated. Instead she's...a totally ignorant dumbass. Can't she be both? She's also right about a lot of stuff... OK, only by accident, but it still counts. Well, no. Her motivations in game are 'I want things to be normal so I can play hurr durr. Also I'm scared of immigrants the demons'. I get the impression she was supposed to be like a female elven version of Che Guevara, almost. Fun, dirty, sure. But with a razor sharp anti-establishment agenda and a far more intelligent, charismatic rebelliousness. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 22:18:39 GMT
I'm still not seeing it. What has been described here could be said about many other characters in many other games, movies, tv shows and it's mostly subjective, not even an actual comparison. I think we need to know a lot more before trying to actually call her "Sera 2.0" Uh... ok? No one ever said Sera was the first of her kind. There is clearly an archetype at work here. The quirky, funny, but immature/inappropriate girl who "dances to the beat of her own drum". Sera fit into this archetype, albeit in particularly annoying fashion. Peebee also fits this archetype but the execution obviously wont be identical. If their execution won't be identical beyond being in this "archetype" then why compare them then? They are clearly different in many ways. |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 28, 2017 22:19:38 GMT
My personal view on the video: I hated Sera's guts but I don't feel Pelassaria being at all like her. I don't know why people get that feeling to me she sounds like an over-active techie-nerd. She is cool. I liked the combat/graphics and Drack so far. I did not like how the avenger came out of nowhere during cutscenes. I really don't want that problem again. I hate, absolutely hate that I have to hear SAM's voice over and over and over. It has no emotion, no feeling. I'm really starting to dislike the fact we are connected to the thing. EDI wasn't as intrusive as this thing. Ian stated on Twitter that SAM was extra-talkative during this mission because it is teaching the player a new mechanic, so in other missions you won't hear from SAM as much, I guess. |
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 28, 2017 22:20:34 GMT
Can't she be both? She's also right about a lot of stuff... OK, only by accident, but it still counts. Well, no. Her motivations in game are 'I want things to be normal so I can play hurr durr. Also I'm scared of immigrants the demons'. I get the impression she was supposed to be like a female elven version of Che Guevara, almost. Fun, dirty, sure. But with a razor sharp anti-establishment agenda and a far more intelligent, charismatic rebelliousness. Yea, BW botched that... hard. My inquisitor dumped her after she led me into a shady deal she lied about. Sometimes, a c*nt is just a c*nt. |
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 28, 2017 22:21:27 GMT
I'll never get used to pain from watching people aim with controller... Graphics are fine, combat is okay too, but this scanning... Shepard have mercy. Does anyone really find that constant scanning fun? Like seriously? Scan suspicious rocks to find a console inside? Scan broken console so Observer could understand it needs to be fixed? It's smart enough to fix things, but not enough to detect that they are broken? The hell is that? *slowly raises hand* I.... I do. Yeah. Call it my inner archaeologist.  |
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 28, 2017 22:24:32 GMT
Personally, I thought ME3, for all its faults, told a stronger story overall than ME2. It actually had more focus, while it seemed to obviously try and clean up the mess ME2 left behind. Ok, given, but much of ME3 was still written by Drew, so... Drew left the team during ME2's development, which might be the reason behind Cerberus' bigger role. Considering it's the same tired crap being recycled for years... it isn't the game that is the problem. Clearly... couldn't be that BW has simply become bad at making good games/writing good stories after ME2. ME's main plot was lackluster and the loyalty missions were lost about daddy issues (although some where well written). For all the problems I have in ME3 it reached a higher point in writing with The genophage arc. This sounded, I don't know, childish? Immature? What ages is this game aimed at exactly? And why is Peebee kidnapping Ryder in an emergency life pod and landing on a planet that the Tempest supposedly can't extract them from (can't they just hover above ground or something?..) is treated like business as usual? Why isn't there an option to blow her head off with a Shotgun? I seriously hope the missing dialogues help in making the initial scene more reasonable, but yes, a more critical response to Peebee should be present. |
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Post by helios969 on Feb 28, 2017 22:24:40 GMT
I thought it was pretty good, though I hope that "hack" a bot mechanic to solve a problem isn't a constant thing 'cause that'll get old quick. I guess we can say there's no hacking mini-game since everything was press button to unlock. Movements and combat looked smooth, although the person playing was not. I hope there's more variability to the Remnant enemy types than what was shown...and that they behave more aggressively and/or smarter on higher difficulties.
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Post by Ahriman on Feb 28, 2017 22:25:08 GMT
I'll never get used to pain from watching people aim with controller... Graphics are fine, combat is okay too, but this scanning... Shepard have mercy. Does anyone really find that constant scanning fun? Like seriously? Scan suspicious rocks to find a console inside? Scan broken console so Observer could understand it needs to be fixed? It's smart enough to fix things, but not enough to detect that they are broken? The hell is that? *slowly raises hand* I.... I do. Yeah. Call it my inner archaeologist.  Even if there are only two rocks to scan to find a console? Does It feel like archaeology? |
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