Peebee's Loyalty Mission - First 17 min. (IGN) [SPOILERS]

Hey its better than the For Honor beta a week before release. Really a beta when the game has gone gold, great! 

A decent game if you dont dig too deep, and have the extended cut, and are a reasonable person and not some raging super nerd. I mean lets be honest, even witht he endings its not a betrayal like say FF 13(which killed my intrest in the franchise, as a former fan), or worse yet, Metal Gear Survive. Or the CD-i zelda games, if youre a zelda fan, talk about betrayal...

I mean not forgiving por forgetting the endings even after its been 5 years and constantly raging about them... thats just ridiculous imho. I get that Casey and Mac really fucked up, i get it. But it shouldnt be your whole damn life. Its a game.

I'm going to try not to speak for you, or anyone besides myself, but lately I've been warming up a bit to the game, and I was wondering if maybe I've been putting ME1 and 2 on too much of a pedestal. They both really do have parts that drag on forever, and some truly annoying aspects to them. Like, they seem like little things now, and we joke about them, but back in the day they were frustrating! Reused dialogue, quiet empty buildings, cutting SFX, the Mako, empty planets, clunky movement, floaty sprinting, trash cover system, unfair abilities, stupid dialogue, retcons, cringey mass appeal aspects, over reliance on sex appeal, popping textures, bland side missions, long load times, abysmal map design, etc...

The list really goes on forever. I've been revisiting a lot of stuff from ME1 and 2, and I've realized that they weren't perfect either. Some stuff in Andromeda is worrying. Some stuff looks tedious. Some stuff will inevitably be pretty bland.

But maybe the game can still be good. I dunno. I reserve my right to be skeptical about anything at any point in time, but I also think it's important to allow yourself to enjoy little details every once in awhile. As many blatantly moronic oversights as there were in ME1, it had a lot of little details that mattered. A lot of care. A lot of passion.

There was a time when ME1 would've looked like a broken mess of a game, but we all ended up loving it anyway. I'm trying to give Andromeda more of a chance. 

Funny thing is I've had the moment of being skeptical but then warming up before with this game. But then it's kinda been slipping and this was yet another slip.

ME1 and 2 is about a "more than sum of its parts" kinda thing. The lasting impression is too favorable to take them off their pedestals. I actually didn't give two shits about ME1 the first time I played it which was overdue. I just wanted to play ME2. I used to only be interested in action/adventure titles like James Bond Everything or Nothing on PS2, Jak 2, then InFamous and then Gears and Halo, Uncharted etc. but then ME2 put Mass Effect on my radar after I had recommended my friend ME1 without playing it myself. I thought the dialogue was cheesy and the story felt crudely presented compared to how good my kinds of games were but slowly I grew to love the dialogue wheel and traversing the Citadel was something, despite how primitive it could feel, was something I knew grabbed me on some level.

ME2 then blew me away. It slowly crescendoed and before I knew it I had been through the Suicide Mission and immediately when I thought back on the experience I  was just blown away by how much I liked it. I was a huge Zelda-nerd and to me Ocarina of Time  had been my favorite game of all time since forever but ME2 finally replaced my favorite franchise with another favorite franchise and it's because of ME1 and 2. ME3 had me in disbelief over how unambitious it was in a certain sense. I could talk at length about this in another thread someday.

Well, I hope it ends up just being a slip. I understand where you're coming from. I mean, it's not like being cynical about a series you liked is fun. 

But if we're lucky, we'll have all worried for nothing. 

You pin pointed exactly why I am getting more excited for the game. The trilogy were some of my favorite games ever. Like you just pointed out, they had flaws-lots of them. I think we need to step back and realize that even if ME:A is a perfect 100/100, it could still be a thrill for a lot of us for a long time.

I'm really waiting to hear that soundtrack, too. 

Winter Palace. Always remember the Winter Palace. 

I actually only got to beat ME3 once. My Xbox broke shortly after ME3 was released. I ended up getting a PlayStation for Christmas that year, and never really looked at Mass Effect again. 

YouTube comments are a plague on humanity. Don't ever read them. And for the love of God, don't ever reply to them. 

I'd say you're being hyperbolic, but it was certainly the best RP moment in the game. 

It was basically done in Mark of The Assassin only better.

The In Wicked Eyes and Hearts or Minds or whatever quest was not well made IMO. Only thing I liked about it was getting to dance with who was most interested in me and hearing people's comments about being at the ball.

I heard you can actually catch the killer without a combat encounter but the Court Approval system is a POS. Unless you're human it'll randomly go down during cutscenes and having a variable of 0-100 need to be at 100 specifically or whatever I needed to do is stupid. I got it to 99 on 3 playthroughs. It's the single trophy I lack to achieve platinum for the game and it's stupidly stupid.

Also the "stealth-game" part of the quest reminded me of the Citadel DLC in a bad way. I'm normally a fan of mini-games and stuff but I think it's just the design is bad. Same with Citadel DLC when distracting guards. Something about it just feels super low-effort and boring in the way it's executed. "Go here, press a button, listen to scripted dialogue"