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Post by daniel on Mar 1, 2017 22:57:03 GMT
There's just something really cartoony about the graphics that throws people off. Are you talking about the animations? Because the graphics (environments,lighting and colors etc) actually look pretty good.
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 1, 2017 22:58:08 GMT
There's just something really cartoony about the graphics that throws people off. Are you talking about the animations? Because the graphics (environments,lighting and colors etc) actually look pretty good. I'm talking about the characters faces that look cartoony.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 1, 2017 23:04:01 GMT
Are you talking about the animations? Because the graphics (environments,lighting and colors etc) actually look pretty good. I'm talking about the characters faces that look cartoony. Nothing new there, really. Every Mass Effect and Dragon Age game had cartoonish looking characters, and to be perfectly honest, I felt it was to the point where Sheploo was done a bit of a disservice by being so detailed compared to regular NPC's. But really, BioWare's never really aimed for strict realism in the proportions and facial characteristics of its characters, or at least it certainly doesn't seem like they ever were.
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Post by daniel on Mar 1, 2017 23:04:43 GMT
Are you talking about the animations? Because the graphics (environments,lighting and colors etc) actually look pretty good. I'm talking about the characters faces that look cartoony. This has been discussed to death on this forum. Its the preset characters, if you don't like them just create your own. The other characters Drax and Vetra for instance look really good.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 1, 2017 23:05:50 GMT
Because surely, a sane person would obviously think like that based on one mission in a game that will have dozens, dozens and dozens more. By that logic I would sell back ME1 because of that masterpiece of a mission that was Feros. You aren't fooling anyone, you will buy it regardless. if they have dozens and dozens more, don't they have a good one to show? Was ME1 marketed with Feros? If there's something that there dozens and dozens and dozens more it's ways for me to spend money on entertainment. Your reasoning that I'm somewhat stripped out of free will of not buying a product that has not shown a single thing maybe outside of promising combat to encourage me to buy it is idiotic. No, ME1 was marketed with the premise of exploring empty varren planets. You're going to buy it, you have to justify your continuous presence here. You're the allegedly type of person that says it won't buy certain game based on a single heavily edited mission which there was nothing horrendous in it, just because it's cool to spit edgy words. Combat makes 50% of the game, you say it it's very promising, but one mission and no deal? Give me a break. They have show characters & squadmates, story, environments, visuals and whatnot. The previews were good, so are the mock reviews. Everything points to MEA being good just like the original trilogy. You're pulling all this "MEA is going to suck! I told you! I'm so cool!" out of your ass.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 1, 2017 23:06:05 GMT
It's obvious by now that they are trying to keep a lot of the story a secret, this is obvious. Please don't just buy this game for multiplayer. If that's your attitude don't buy the game. Why is it important to you what are my exact reasoning on buying a game? I have fond memories of ME3 MP (like many people here) which provided much more fun and didn't require tinfoil hat theories to make sense. I know many BSNers because I played ME3 with them. BioWare games stopped being almost unanimously praised for the single player experience since DA2. Why do you think that it's somehow a heresy to base your decision about purchase on the multiplayer feature which they also developed and spent resources on (not to mention that it's the feature that will probably fund future games via in-game purchases)?
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 1, 2017 23:07:10 GMT
I'm talking about the characters faces that look cartoony. Nothing new there, really. Every Mass Effect and Dragon Age game had cartoonish looking characters, and to be perfectly honest, I felt it was to the point where Sheploo was done a bit of a disservice by being so detailed compared to regular NPC's. But really, BioWare's never really aimed for strict realism in the proportions and facial characteristics of its characters, or at least it certainly doesn't seem like they ever were. I much preferred when manshep didn't look like a Sims character.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 1, 2017 23:08:10 GMT
Personally I think he always looked a little weird, but then I think the real life guy looks kind of weird too.
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 1, 2017 23:10:49 GMT
I'm talking about the characters faces that look cartoony. This has been discussed to death on this forum. Its the preset characters, if you don't like them just create your own. The other characters Drax and Vetra for instance look really good. I'm not discussing anything, I'm making a point that you continue quoting and attempting to create further discussion about, on a thread relevant to the topic, as you ironically get defensive. It's the graphics themselves, making a character isnt going to suddenly make them not look like Sims characters. What's with the massive amount of salt?
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 1, 2017 23:12:02 GMT
Personally I think he always looked a little weird, but then I think the real life guy looks kind of weird too. Right? I actually thought his ingame representation looked more natural then the real thing at some point...
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Post by daniel on Mar 1, 2017 23:13:24 GMT
Nothing new there, really. Every Mass Effect and Dragon Age game had cartoonish looking characters, and to be perfectly honest, I felt it was to the point where Sheploo was done a bit of a disservice by being so detailed compared to regular NPC's. But really, BioWare's never really aimed for strict realism in the proportions and facial characteristics of its characters, or at least it certainly doesn't seem like they ever were. I much preferred when manshep didn't look like a Sims character. Man shep always kind of reminded me of a sex offender.
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 1, 2017 23:14:36 GMT
I much preferred when manshep didn't look like a Sims character. Man shep always kind of reminded me of a sex offender. We'll bang, okay? I'll never forget the creepy smile every time he told Miranda "I'm still interested".
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Post by daniel on Mar 1, 2017 23:21:05 GMT
This has been discussed to death on this forum. Its the preset characters, if you don't like them just create your own. The other characters Drax and Vetra for instance look really good. I'm not discussing anything, I'm making a point that you continue quoting and attempting to create further discussion about, on a thread relevant to the topic, as you ironically get defensive. It's the graphics themselves, making a character isnt going to suddenly make them not look like Sims characters. What's with the massive amount of salt? No you create an entire thread with a poor choise for a title because we have maybe seen 2% of 'Andromeda" And the CC characters are based on 3d models so there is a high probability that they will look more to your liking.
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 1, 2017 23:23:59 GMT
I'm not discussing anything, I'm making a point that you continue quoting and attempting to create further discussion about, on a thread relevant to the topic, as you ironically get defensive. It's the graphics themselves, making a character isnt going to suddenly make them not look like Sims characters. What's with the massive amount of salt? No you create an entire thread with a poor choise for a title because we have maybe seen 2% of 'Andromeda" And the CC characters are based on 3d models so there is a high probability that they will look more to your liking. Ummm...this isn't my thread bro. You need to relax a little, not sure why this is riling you up so much.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 1, 2017 23:25:30 GMT
if they have dozens and dozens more, don't they have a good one to show? Was ME1 marketed with Feros? If there's something that there dozens and dozens and dozens more it's ways for me to spend money on entertainment. Your reasoning that I'm somewhat stripped out of free will of not buying a product that has not shown a single thing maybe outside of promising combat to encourage me to buy it is idiotic. No, ME1 was marketed with the premise of exploring empty varren planets. You're going to buy it, you have to justify your continuous presence here. You're the allegedly type of person that says it won't buy certain game based on a single heavily edited mission which there was nothing horrendous in it, just because it's cool to spit edgy words. Combat makes 50% of the game, you say it it's very promising, but one mission and no deal? Give me a break. They have show characters & squadmates, story, visuals and whatnot. The previews were good, so are the mock reviews. Everything points to MEA being good just like the original trilogy. You're pulling all this "MEA is going to suck! I told you! I'm so cool!" out of your ass. okay, I'm going to sleep and don't have much incentive to talk to you again, so last one post and then let's respectfully ignore each other. You don't like me, because I wrote some posts laughing at a fucking digital model and not agreeing that a post that boiled down to "LOLOLOL you're a virgin" is a sick burn. That's okay. It wasn't accurate, but on the web nobody cares who you are in real life, so I didn't feel like explaining myself. If it changes anything, I'm 27 and have a great life. Today I moved into a new place with my gf with which I am approaching 5th anniversary. Who cares. But that's real me. When I'm serious I don't feel like lying on the web. And now I am, just as I was serious that fi someone likes the footage shown so far then good for him, but right as we speak I am not inclined to buy the product. 4 years of not thinking about ME and growing up does that. You just stop worshipping a brand and realize that at the end of the day you are just a customer and if you don't like what is shown to you then you just keep your money and spend it on something else. And I don't like what is being shown at the moment, plain and simple. I come here to fuck around and post both meaningless shit and honest opinions because I just feel like it. So I said what I said. To me new ME game isn't shaping up to be as good as 1 or 2 or 3. You don't know a fucking thing about me. I don't need something as basic as feeling warm and fuzzy because of an accurate "I told you so". So take this 5th grade diagnosis of yours and take it somewhere else. Have fun with the game mate.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 1, 2017 23:27:51 GMT
No, ME1 was marketed with the premise of exploring empty varren planets. You're going to buy it, you have to justify your continuous presence here. You're the allegedly type of person that says it won't buy certain game based on a single heavily edited mission which there was nothing horrendous in it, just because it's cool to spit edgy words. Combat makes 50% of the game, you say it it's very promising, but one mission and no deal? Give me a break. They have show characters & squadmates, story, visuals and whatnot. The previews were good, so are the mock reviews. Everything points to MEA being good just like the original trilogy. You're pulling all this "MEA is going to suck! I told you! I'm so cool!" out of your ass. okay, I'm going to sleep and don't have much incentive to talk to you again, so last one post and then let's respectfully ignore each other. You don't like me, because I wrote some posts laughing at a fucking digital model and not agreeing that a post that boiled down to "LOLOLOL you're a virgin" is a sick burn. That's okay. It wasn't accurate, but on the web nobody cares who you are in real life, so I didn't feel like explaining myself. If it changes anything, I'm 27 and have a great life. Today I moved into a new place with my gf with which I am approaching 5th anniversary. Who cares. But that's real me. When I'm serious I don't feel like lying on the web. And now I am, just as I was serious that fi someone likes the footage shown so far then good for him, but right as we speak I am not inclined to buy the product. 4 years of not thinking about ME and growing up does that. You just stop worshipping a brand and realize that at the end of the day you are just a customer and if you don't like what is shown to you then you just keep your money and spend it on something else. And I don't like what is being shown at the moment, plain and simple. I come here to fuck around and post both meaningless shit and honest opinions because I just feel like it. So I said what I said. To me new ME game isn't shaping up to be as good as 1 or 2 or 3. You don't know a fucking thing about me. I don't need something as basic as feeling warm and fuzzy because of an accurate "I told you so". So take this 5th grade diagnosis of yours and take it somewhere else. Have fun with the game mate. You say you're mature yet you aren't acting like it. If you have a great life stop wasting your time on here. Just don't buy this game and move on with your life.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 1, 2017 23:29:14 GMT
I can understand most of the complaints.
But at the same time, I expected Peebee's mission(s?) to be the most 'immature' anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 23:31:04 GMT
Man shep always kind of reminded me of a sex offender. We'll bang, okay? I'll never forget the creepy smile every time he told Miranda "I'm still interested". That was tied to animating, rather than the character model. Custom male Sheps made the same face, and after that creepy smile became a meme, people edited nearly every major companion into that scene and they looked the same.
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Post by daniel on Mar 1, 2017 23:31:08 GMT
Some people like coming on this forum and talk about the things they like about this game. But ever since they released the Combat trailers it has become a non stop of complaining and opening threads for every little thing that's wrong with the game. Its unsettling to say the least.
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Post by setecastronomy on Mar 1, 2017 23:34:55 GMT
I don't think we've seen enough of the game to draw that conclusion, but I am a bit concerned about how the popularity of the Citadel DLC may have impacted the development of Andromeda. All this talk about how this is a more light-hearted adventure than the Shepard trilogy, makes me a bit worried that it might be an entire game with the same tone as that DLC. As much as I liked the Citadel DLC, I thought the humor was at times over the top and that the DLC would have been better if that had been dialed back a notch or two. I can understand where you thought it was over the top, even if I disagree. I think it was written like that mostly because there was such history with those characters, and for the writers this was the last opportunity they would have to write them. With Andromeda, and this being a brand new cast, that type of writing wouldn't have the nostalgic payoff it would have if we played three games with them. This new crew has to earn our love for that type of humor to even be attempted. Andromeda's writing may in fact be lighter in tone, but I certainly don't think it will be as "familiar" as the Citadel DLC was.
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 1, 2017 23:36:23 GMT
We'll bang, okay? I'll never forget the creepy smile every time he told Miranda "I'm still interested". That was tied to animating, rather than the character model. Custom male Sheps made the same face, and after that creepy smile became a meme, people edited nearly every major companion into that scene and they looked the same. Not sure what the point of your comment is, that's pretty common sense that it's badly animated, just like everything else Bioware touches. Are you talking just to talk? That isn't even relevant to the conversation I'm having.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 1, 2017 23:38:01 GMT
No, ME1 was marketed with the premise of exploring empty varren planets. You're going to buy it, you have to justify your continuous presence here. You're the allegedly type of person that says it won't buy certain game based on a single heavily edited mission which there was nothing horrendous in it, just because it's cool to spit edgy words. Combat makes 50% of the game, you say it it's very promising, but one mission and no deal? Give me a break. They have show characters & squadmates, story, visuals and whatnot. The previews were good, so are the mock reviews. Everything points to MEA being good just like the original trilogy. You're pulling all this "MEA is going to suck! I told you! I'm so cool!" out of your ass. okay, I'm going to sleep and don't have much incentive to talk to you again, so last one post and then let's respectfully ignore each other. You don't like me, because I wrote some posts laughing at a fucking digital model and not agreeing that a post that boiled down to "LOLOLOL you're a virgin" is a sick burn. That's okay. It wasn't accurate, but on the web nobody cares who you are in real life, so I didn't feel like explaining myself. If it changes anything, I'm 27 and have a great life. Today I moved into a new place with my gf with which I am approaching 5th anniversary. Who cares. But that's real me. When I'm serious I don't feel like lying on the web. And now I am, just as I was serious that fi someone likes the footage shown so far then good for him, but right as we speak I am not inclined to buy the product. 4 years of not thinking about ME and growing up does that. You just stop worshipping a brand and realize that at the end of the day you are just a customer and if you don't like what is shown to you then you just keep your money and spend it on something else. And I don't like what is being shown at the moment, plain and simple. I come here to fuck around and post both meaningless shit and honest opinions because I just feel like it. So I said what I said. To me new ME game isn't shaping up to be as good as 1 or 2 or 3. You don't know a fucking thing about me. I don't need something as basic as feeling warm and fuzzy because of an accurate "I told you so". So take this 5th grade diagnosis of yours and take it somewhere else. Have fun with the game mate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 0:14:36 GMT
That was tied to animating, rather than the character model. Custom male Sheps made the same face, and after that creepy smile became a meme, people edited nearly every major companion into that scene and they looked the same. Not sure what the point of your comment is, that's pretty common sense that it's badly animated, just like everything else Bioware touches. Are you talking just to talk? That isn't even relevant to the conversation I'm having. Since you're apparently struggling to keep track, the person you were responding to said "Male Shep looked like a sex offender," which was itself a response to a comment on the appearance of Sheploo. I was pointing out that the creepy smile you mentioned at the end of that chain (and which was the origin of the "Sheploo looks like a sex offender" criticism), was entirely the result of bad animating and not any particular character model. Try paying attention before resorting to snark in your replies. It will make you look slightly less moronic.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 2, 2017 0:38:52 GMT
if they have dozens and dozens more, don't they have a good one to show? Was ME1 marketed with Feros? If there's something that there dozens and dozens and dozens more it's ways for me to spend money on entertainment. Your reasoning that I'm somewhat stripped out of free will of not buying a product that has not shown a single thing maybe outside of promising combat to encourage me to buy it is idiotic. No, ME1 was marketed with the premise of exploring empty varren planets. You're going to buy it, you have to justify your continuous presence here. You're the allegedly type of person that says it won't buy certain game based on a single heavily edited mission which there was nothing horrendous in it, just because it's cool to spit edgy words. Combat makes 50% of the game, you say it it's very promising, but one mission and no deal? Give me a break. They have show characters & squadmates, story, environments, visuals and whatnot. The previews were good, so are the mock reviews. Everything points to MEA being good just like the original trilogy. You're pulling all this "MEA is going to suck! I told you! I'm so cool!" out of your ass. I currently have no plans to buy it either. Go on and tell me I'm wrong too, since you know us better than we know ourselves.
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Post by s0ulbearer on Mar 2, 2017 0:58:29 GMT
Not sure what the point of your comment is, that's pretty common sense that it's badly animated, just like everything else Bioware touches. Are you talking just to talk? That isn't even relevant to the conversation I'm having. Since you're apparently struggling to keep track, the person you were responding to said "Male Shep looked like a sex offender," which was itself a response to a comment on the appearance of Sheploo. I was pointing out that the creepy smile you mentioned at the end of that chain (and which was the origin of the "Sheploo looks like a sex offender" criticism), was entirely the result of bad animating and not any particular character model. Try paying attention before resorting to snark in your replies. It will make you look slightly less moronic. You are trying incredibly hard to stretch an argument here, just because the smile has nothing to do with this other person's perception of the model itself, doesn't mean it didn't fit the "sex offender" remark. You are going to continue making a fool of yourself if you keep trying to connect dots that aren't there. There is such a thing as a flowing conversation, where other relevant topics or concurrent thoughts can occur. Next are you going to explain to me how social interactions work and then tell me it doesn't relate to what Shepard looks like simply because they are in the same comment?
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