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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 12:04:47 GMT
Aren't they supposed to have their own pathfinders? Krogan had no ark of their own, so I doubt they had a pathfinder... actually, we still don't know how they even got to Helios, my guess is on the Nexus? Right; good point. So Krogan resentment will likely be an important plot point. (Again. Not that it's a problem.)
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Post by bryanky5 on Mar 4, 2017 12:10:37 GMT
Krogan had no ark of their own, so I doubt they had a pathfinder... actually, we still don't know how they even got to Helios, my guess is on the Nexus? Right; good point. So Krogan resentment will likely be an important plot point. (Again. Not that it's a problem.) Considering these Krogan won't know that the genophage has been cured, they likely still hate the Turians and the Salarians so I'm not surprised they still have resentment.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 4, 2017 12:18:40 GMT
Right; good point. So Krogan resentment will likely be an important plot point. (Again. Not that it's a problem.) Considering these Krogan won't know that the genophage has been cured, they likely still hate the Turians and the Salarians so I'm not surprised they still have resentment. Any Krogan that boarded an ark didnt make a wise choice
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Post by azarhal on Mar 4, 2017 12:39:36 GMT
Wayment. The Krogan, known for their issues with reproduction, come along with the Initiative to Andromeda...Pick a desert planet in the back ass end of nowhere and scarce in resources to live on...and now for some reason decide not to trust the Initiative, isolating themselves from all the other races in unknown hostile territory after being in cryo-sleep together for 600+ years when they need each other most? I have a feeling that the Krogan may go extinct in my playthrough... New Tuchanka looks like old Tuchanka but instead of a huge Tresher Maw it has a huge Remnant worm thing.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 4, 2017 13:29:24 GMT
Considering these Krogan won't know that Mordin was shot in the back whilst trying to cure the genophage, they likely still hate the Turians and the Salarians so I'm not surprised they still have resentment. Edited that for you - the fun of choice based games! Nothing like it to mess up your back story :-D
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Post by armass81 on Mar 4, 2017 14:16:54 GMT
Drell would likely enjoy that planet. Like home, before it became a polluted wasteland.
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Post by souljahbill14 on Mar 4, 2017 15:55:48 GMT
Right; good point. So Krogan resentment will likely be an important plot point. (Again. Not that it's a problem.) Considering these Krogan won't know that the genophage has been cured, they likely still hate the Turians and the Salarians so I'm not surprised they still have resentment. The genophage might not be cured.
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Post by Antibaar on Mar 4, 2017 16:32:52 GMT
Did someone else noticed the city hub planet at 0:21 ?? Looks kinda of Illium,but I think that is a city hub planet(remnant origin),ruled by the angara. What do you think?
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Post by axegaijin on Mar 4, 2017 17:48:53 GMT
I hope they're not going to do the same thing they did in DA:I where you could easily be over-leveled by the end of the game if you did a lot of exploring. Smacking the end boss around in under 2 minutes because you're a couple of levels higher then intended is not my idea of fun. Made the entire final encounter quite a bit of a let down.
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Post by Ocelot on Mar 4, 2017 17:59:40 GMT
Did someone else noticed the city hub planet at 0:21 ?? Looks kinda of Illium,but I think that is a city hub planet(remnant origin),ruled by the angara. What do you think? I'm not entirely sure if that is a city hub. It looks more like a gigantic tomb. Or like an old Remnant city.
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Post by ryerye17 on Mar 4, 2017 18:35:22 GMT
I hope they're not going to do the same thing they did in DA:I where you could easily be over-leveled by the end of the game if you did a lot of exploring. Smacking the end boss around in under 2 minutes because you're a couple of levels higher then intended is not my idea of fun. Made the entire final encounter quite a bit of a let down. With no level scaling...and the fact that you can do a great deal of sidequests post-game...I'm pretty sure it's possible to kick around the Archon.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 5, 2017 2:56:07 GMT
I don't agree with everything he says, but it's still funny... Is that guy going to buy the game? He sounds endlessly nickpicky.
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Post by Madflavor on Mar 5, 2017 4:17:14 GMT
Smudboy is always negative. Which is why I don't watch him anymore. I think the guy might have some internal issues, given how adamant and obsessed he is with picking apart every thing he can find in every Bioware video. A lot of what he bitches about, can either be explained, or is so nitpicky it's pathetic on his part.
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Post by KalleDemos on Mar 5, 2017 6:29:03 GMT
Wayment. The Krogan, known for their issues with reproduction, come along with the Initiative to Andromeda...Pick a desert planet in the back ass end of nowhere and scarce in resources to live on...and now for some reason decide not to trust the Initiative, isolating themselves from all the other races in unknown hostile territory after being in cryo-sleep together for 600+ years when they need each other most? I have a feeling that the Krogan may go extinct in my playthrough... New Tuchanka looks like old Tuchanka but instead of a huge Tresher Maw it has a huge Remnant worm thing. No, the Krogan essentially destroyed Tuchanka in a self inflicted nuclear disaster. The planet was originally lush and crawling with life. Just because the Krogan CAN survive in a wasteland doesn't mean they should try. Considering their declining situation and prospects given the Genophage would it not be more prudent for them to select a planet where any surviving young would be able to thrive? Would it not be in their best interest to maintain ties with known allies while trying to survive in the hostile Andromeda that they no little to nothing about? Since none of this has apparently occurred to the Krogan I can only come to the conclusion that they aren't interested in their own future, so why should I be? Sorry, I didn't mean to rant at you but those are my thoughts.
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Post by bryanky5 on Mar 5, 2017 6:34:39 GMT
Considering these Krogan won't know that Mordin was shot in the back whilst trying to cure the genophage, they likely still hate the Turians and the Salarians so I'm not surprised they still have resentment. Edited that for you - the fun of choice based games! Nothing like it to mess up your back story :-D Shhh, shooting Mordin and lying to Wrex was never an option.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 5, 2017 10:48:29 GMT
Smudboy is always negative. Which is why I don't watch him anymore. I think the guy might have some internal issues, given how adamant and obsessed he is with picking apart every thing he can find in every Bioware video. A lot of what he bitches about, can either be explained, or is so nitpicky it's pathetic on his part. Funnily enough, the "pathetic always negative" guy makes a lot of excellent points. That he does... people only perceive him as negative because he points out any and all flaws with BW games. You should watch his plot analysis vids, he is extremely thorough. He also does point out things on the basis of what is shown/explained to the player, not on the basis of conjecture... of course, you can head canon and explain much away, but usually that's only necessary because of bad writing. I doubt he will buy MEA, though... he probably will critique a let's play, as he did with "Trespasser". Anywho, I probably will still buy the game, but I like me a good analysis!
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Post by smilesja on Mar 5, 2017 11:01:08 GMT
Smudboy is always negative. Which is why I don't watch him anymore. I think the guy might have some internal issues, given how adamant and obsessed he is with picking apart every thing he can find in every Bioware video. A lot of what he bitches about, can either be explained, or is so nitpicky it's pathetic on his part. Funnily enough, the "pathetic always negative" guy makes a lot of excellent points. Years before maybe. But right now, a lot of his "critiques" just feel very nitpicky and self serving.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 5, 2017 11:18:04 GMT
Funnily enough, the "pathetic always negative" guy makes a lot of excellent points. Years before maybe. But right now, a lot of his "critiques" just feel very nitpicky and self serving. I dunno... I mean, for instance: From what we saw up until now, we will have to deal will MW races more often then not in that game that's supposed to be about the exploration of a new galaxy. Why? Because fans like them? There are just so many things wrong with recent BW games, it's easy to criticize without being "nitpicky".
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 5, 2017 12:20:41 GMT
Years before maybe. But right now, a lot of his "critiques" just feel very nitpicky and self serving. I dunno... I mean, for instance: From what we saw up until now, we will have to deal will MW races more often then not in that game that's supposed to be about the exploration of a new galaxy. Why? Because fans like them? There are just so many things wrong with recent BW games, it's easy to criticize without being "nitpicky". I'd say this is nitpicking though. Or at least exaggerating on being defined in the same category as the things wrong in Bioware games (which there are, even if some are subjective, and some are things always present in Bioware games, so they're not all issues of recent Bioware games). While I'd prefer to see more the interaction with the new species (I'm waiting to see if it's as bad as people fear), the situation in Andromeda and the division between the species, based on what we know, seem to make sense. It's not something lorebreaking or illogical. On that note, for those that watched his videos, could you tell which inconstency he found with the lore and Andromeda?
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 5, 2017 13:39:43 GMT
I dunno... I mean, for instance: From what we saw up until now, we will have to deal will MW races more often then not in that game that's supposed to be about the exploration of a new galaxy. Why? Because fans like them? There are just so many things wrong with recent BW games, it's easy to criticize without being "nitpicky". I'd say this is nitpicking though. Or at least exaggerating on being defined in the same category as the things wrong in Bioware games (which there are, even if some are subjective, and some are things always present in Bioware games, so they're not all issues of recent Bioware games). While I'd prefer to see more the interaction with the new species (I'm waiting to see if it's as bad as people fear), the situation in Andromeda and the division between the species, based on what we know, seem to make sense. It's not something lorebreaking or illogical. On that note, for those that watched his videos, could you tell which inconstency he found with the lore and Andromeda? All of smudboys vids? Oh man... basically everything from ME has been retconned at least once by now. How weapons work, how FTL drives work, how personal shields work, etc. etc. etc. I essence, starting with ME2, the series moved away from the hard scifie setup the original writers imagined...
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 5, 2017 14:17:32 GMT
I'd say this is nitpicking though. Or at least exaggerating on being defined in the same category as the things wrong in Bioware games (which there are, even if some are subjective, and some are things always present in Bioware games, so they're not all issues of recent Bioware games). While I'd prefer to see more the interaction with the new species (I'm waiting to see if it's as bad as people fear), the situation in Andromeda and the division between the species, based on what we know, seem to make sense. It's not something lorebreaking or illogical. On that note, for those that watched his videos, could you tell which inconstency he found with the lore and Andromeda? All of smudboys vids? Oh man... basically everything from ME has been retconned at least once by now. How weapons work, how FTL drives work, how personal shields work, etc. etc. etc. I essence, starting with ME2, the series moved away from the hard scifie setup the original writers imagined... No, I meant from what we know about Andromeda.
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Post by Tittus on Mar 5, 2017 14:56:38 GMT
Years before maybe. But right now, a lot of his "critiques" just feel very nitpicky and self serving. I dunno... I mean, for instance: From what we saw up until now, we will have to deal will MW races more often then not in that game that's supposed to be about the exploration of a new galaxy. Why? Because fans like them? There are just so many things wrong with recent BW games, it's easy to criticize without being "nitpicky". Using the term "exploration" is misleading. It's not just 10 or 20 ships discovering lands and coming back to the MW with resources. The whole purpose is "colonization" in a new bigger scale, and adjust the necessities of the MW races to this new galaxy. And really, having two sapient races native of a single cluster is already too much There isn't ANYTHING there to criticize. You just have delusional desires.
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Post by Madflavor on Mar 5, 2017 15:11:37 GMT
Smudboy is always negative. Which is why I don't watch him anymore. I think the guy might have some internal issues, given how adamant and obsessed he is with picking apart every thing he can find in every Bioware video. A lot of what he bitches about, can either be explained, or is so nitpicky it's pathetic on his part. Funnily enough, the "pathetic always negative" guy makes a lot of excellent points. Some? Sure. All? No. Assuming right now that Smudboy hit the mark 100%, and was right on everything he said, I still wouldn't watch him. When you do absolutely nothing but criticize every level of detail about a game or a movie, and that's all you do, well then I'm sorry but I'm gonna lose interest in your show real quick. I'm not a jaded person. While I'm interested in hearing critique most of the time, I enjoy enthusing about things more than complaining. Also I find it distracting at this point over how much he hates Bioware. That really doesn't help paint Smudboy in a good light to me. If his critiques came from a place of wanting to analyze and discuss certain things that he believes Bioware did wrong, and how they can be improved, then that'd be one thing. But it's so obvious that they're coming from a place of hatred, and that's what's fueling him to make these videos. I hated Mass Effect 3. I repeat....HATED it. But even I won't admit ME3 was "bad". Tuchanka, Rannoch, and Sanctuary. 'Nuff said.
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Post by slimgrin on Mar 5, 2017 15:32:34 GMT
Smudboy's picking on a lot of things that could very well be explained once we actually play the game. And some points are just nitpicky. Once you get into that mindset you can tear apart the logic of almost any game. That said, there were few valid points and I hope Bioware are more consistent with lore this time around.
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Post by Mythgar on Mar 5, 2017 15:40:41 GMT
Smudboy's picking on a lot of things that could very well be explained once we actually play the game. And some points are just nitpicky. Once you get into that mindset you can tear apart the logic of almost any game. That said, there were few valid points and I hope Bioware are more consistent with lore this time around. Pretty much this. He makes a couple thought-provoking points, but these are issues you could find with any piece of media if you look closely enough. I feel he IS nitpicking, and it becomes nitpicking when he starts pointing out things that we actually don't know about yet. There were several points he made where I immediately was thinking of 2-3 alternate explanations for what was going on that seemed far more reasonable than his assumption. It just makes him come across as a hater, when he picks out things without having any actual evidence that there's something wrong with it.
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