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Post by Psychevore on Mar 6, 2017 19:23:17 GMT
Ryder.
Because he/she's merged with AI.
Synthesis, people. It's inevitable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 19:35:11 GMT
Shepard, because old age and treachery will always beat enthusiasm and youthful exuberance. or whatever version of that parable you have seen.
Exile is the only protagonist I would seriously pitch against Shepard in my heart.
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Post by SKAR on Mar 6, 2017 22:41:28 GMT
I chose shep but now I like Ryder because no more shepard. Better customization,etc. Ryder is the new sheriff in town. Can't wait to see what we're capable of.
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Post by Cyonan on Mar 6, 2017 22:47:45 GMT
Shepard, because old age and treachery will always beat enthusiasm and youthful exuberance. or whatever version of that parable you have seen. Exile is the only protagonist I would seriously pitch against Shepard in my heart. I can think of a number of protagonists that would wipe the floor with Shep, but most of those aren't fair fights because those characters are written as unstoppable gods of destruction. Kind of like how it's currently not fair to pit Shep against Ryder because Shep's feats are so far beyond anything Ryder has done at the moment on account of Ryder not having done anything(as we don't know the full events of ME:A just yet). Though Shep vs others is a topic for another more off-topic thread =P
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Post by vonuber on Mar 6, 2017 23:16:31 GMT
It is a tough one to be honest:
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Post by Cannibal on Mar 6, 2017 23:20:05 GMT
Shepard quite easily. Even before the events of Mass Effect 1, Shepard was already one of, if not the best soldier humanity had to offer. A humanity that includes not only Ryder, but every other N7 designated soldier(including Alec Ryder), Shepard was the best.
Both Scott and Sara, at 22, were the lowest rung on the ladder in the Alliance military, they have very little, if any combat experience and were glorified guards. Pretty much they were no more than your typical C-Sec officer, and perhaps they would have been if their daddy wasn't somebody important.
I'm sure BioWare will do something in the story to make Scott or Sara become super special amazing, but what they can't do, is change the background story of these characters, and that background story says, that unless super special amazing happens, Ryder(both) will never be able to lace the boots of Shepard.
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Post by KamenRyder on Mar 6, 2017 23:22:26 GMT
Shepard is an experienced N7 who came back from the dead with updgrades. Ryders are going in a body bag.
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Post by souljahbill14 on Mar 6, 2017 23:58:33 GMT
Shepard was on the back of a mini-ship, said "F this", got off, and fought a Reaper one-on-one.
Winner
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Post by General Mahad on Mar 7, 2017 0:55:33 GMT
Shepard, despite being a brick and a fool sometimes, will remain ageless in video game memory.
Can't say the same about the Warden, Hawke, the Inquisitior, nor Ryder.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 7, 2017 1:00:49 GMT
Shepard....obviously.
Hell...we could be still playing as him/her if it wasn't for the dynamic duo.
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 7, 2017 2:28:41 GMT
And I don't mean in a player vs player or MP like situation. If that were the case I'd say Ryder due to unlimited access to skills. I mean if Shepard & Ryder were to meet in the story for whatever reason and were to battle it out, who do you think would come out on top? I think Shepard would for me. He/She just seems like the character that no matter the odds always seems to come out on top. Anyway off to work now(^◇^
You have to be kidding, right?
Seasoned N7 Commando Space Jesus Cyborg vs. Rookie Sears catalog underwear model?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA....
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 7, 2017 2:31:35 GMT
I think Ryder's got some growing up to do before he can face the mighty Sheploo.
Ha!
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Post by danishgambit on Mar 7, 2017 2:38:37 GMT
Shepard is a trained and experienced soldier. Ryder looks like he just got out of boot camp.
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Post by kino on Mar 7, 2017 2:46:39 GMT
Considering we have no idea about the Ryder's skills or abilities it's impossible to say.
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Post by brunobyof on Mar 7, 2017 3:04:42 GMT
I can only remember of this video here to solve this thread: Okay i realized this video has been posted here already but fuck, it's so good i don't even care to delete it No matter what scars you bear Whatever uniform you wear You can fight like a Krogan Run like a leopard But you'll never dance better than Commander Shepard
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Post by Blackheart on Mar 7, 2017 9:15:52 GMT
Even Krogans are afraid of Shepuurd. Seriously, Shep would take out whole Ryder family at once.
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 7, 2017 10:40:56 GMT
Ryder. Because he/she's merged with AI. I remember Shepard beating one in ME1 and hundreds of these in ME2.
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Post by Psychevore on Mar 7, 2017 11:56:56 GMT
Ryder. Because he/she's merged with AI. I remember Shepard beating one in ME1 and hundreds of these in ME2. Just Shepard? Or the entire citadel defense force and a large portion of the human systems alliance? And hundreds of what exactly in ME2? The Geth aren't AI/Organic symbionts, neither are the Collectors. Geth are pure AI, Collectors are heavily genetically modified organics, but none of these are AI/Organic symbionts. And by ME2 Shepard is just a fragment shy of being a symbiont himself. Only not completely, hence, Ryder wins
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 7, 2017 12:54:34 GMT
I remember Shepard beating one in ME1 and hundreds of these in ME2. Just Shepard? Or the entire citadel defense force and a large portion of the human systems alliance? Entire Citadel defense and 5th fleet couldn't lay a finger on Sovy, until Shepard kicked him unconscious. People have such short memory nowadays. How do you think Harby assumed direct control?
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Post by NUM13ER on Mar 7, 2017 13:04:03 GMT
Well...Shepard begins Mass Effect as an N7 badass and war hero before the game even starts. So even if we're talking about from their first outing this seems like the most lopsided argument ever considering Ryder is supposed to be untested.
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Post by Zemgus on Mar 7, 2017 13:06:28 GMT
Too early to say, isn't it?
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Post by Princess Trejo on Mar 7, 2017 13:10:05 GMT
Doesn't matter whether it's Shep or Ryder, mine is callous enough to destroy the shit out of them... the aliens, the bad guys, tentacle monsters, et cetera, et cetera...
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Post by themikefest on Mar 7, 2017 15:35:11 GMT
Entire Citadel defense and 5th fleet couldn't lay a finger on Sovy, until Shepard kicked him unconscious. The problem is that it was setup for the SR1 to destroy Sovereign. Even if every ship in the galaxy was firing on the reaper, it wasn't going to take any damage. It didn't take any damage after its shields were disabled. It was the itsy-bitsy-teenie-weenie frigate, with a fighter on each side, that destroyed the reaper. So, for a few seconds, the Normandy was the most powerful ship in the galaxy.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Mar 7, 2017 16:07:03 GMT
TBH I hate it when they write those two words wrong. Correct form: Rider / Shepherd
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Post by Psychevore on Mar 7, 2017 16:34:11 GMT
Just Shepard? Or the entire citadel defense force and a large portion of the human systems alliance? Entire Citadel defense and 5th fleet couldn't lay a finger on Sovy, until Shepard kicked him unconscious. People have such short memory nowadays. How do you think Harby assumed direct control? Shepard did no kicking. Sovereign made a mistake, i.e. taking direct control of Saren. By Indoctrination.
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