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Post by armass81 on Mar 15, 2017 18:12:09 GMT
They do bother me but its not a dealbreaker.
I can still enjoy Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger, and those games have like zero facial animations, aside from couple of sprite emotes.
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Post by littlemad on Mar 15, 2017 18:21:46 GMT
They do bother me but its not a dealbreaker. I can still enjoy Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger, and those games have like zero facial animations, aside from couple of sprite emotes. Ehehe even final fantasy XIII has no facial expression and still feel great with their pixel I normally would feel like you about it, who cares? it is just a detail. I retro game a lot and few old title really bothered me. I am still playing final fantasy 6 on my tablet and happy about it. I just for the love of the lord, cannot really deal with this and I feel like something in my head doesn't really let me give a pass on this. It is too damn FUGLY and I am ok with no great beauty in the game, but this person looks just weird. And the lack of facial customization for my hero, for me it is one of the most fun part of the game to design your own hero and it doesn't look good. www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/03/even-mass-effect-andromedas-custom-character-options-are-ugly/26087/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 18:22:24 GMT
They do bother me but its not a dealbreaker. I can still enjoy Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger, and those games have like zero facial animations, aside from couple of sprite emotes. Good point, but it's a lot harder to ignore bad animations in a game with loads and loads of dialogue and cutscenes, as I expect MEA to be.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 15, 2017 18:22:53 GMT
Damnit i need someone to make a gif of the teleporting people from the scene with sara i was talking about. I ll try find the video!
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 15, 2017 18:26:18 GMT
While I do think that some of the criticism is exaggerated, the game has problems in terms of animations, so it should be discussed and addressed.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 15, 2017 18:28:39 GMT
The magic teleport is around 16:45.
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Mar 15, 2017 18:29:51 GMT
Turns out Bioware actually explains the facial animations in-game. (Yes, this is an actual quote, unless my ears are playing tricks on me)
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Post by daniel on Mar 15, 2017 18:34:05 GMT
I searched about it, couldn't find anything on the face related discussion. And I wanted to hear other people opinion to understand if it was just me or it was a common feeling, I am not here to flame. If you compare them to me3 there not that terrible. just like before its something your gonna have to except or forget about the game and hope the next one gets it right.
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Post by aionis on Mar 15, 2017 18:35:45 GMT
The faces don't bother me.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 15, 2017 18:38:26 GMT
Yea, let's not... they botched it, and probably wont fix it, end of story. If that's the worst thing this game will be remembered - or better forgotten - for, BW can still count them self lucky...
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 15, 2017 18:39:06 GMT
Turns out Bioware actually explains the facial animations in-game. (Yes, this is an actual quote, unless my ears are playing tricks on me) I don't recall if the quote was exactly like that, but yes, she does say she's quite tired. I don't think it was intentional though
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Post by bigbad on Mar 15, 2017 18:39:09 GMT
They do bother me but its not a dealbreaker. I can still enjoy Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger, and those games have like zero facial animations, aside from couple of sprite emotes. Ehehe even final fantasy XIII has no facial expression and still feel great with their pixel I normally would feel like you about it, who cares? it is just a detail. I retro game a lot and few old title really bothered me. I am still playing final fantasy 6 on my tablet and happy about it. I just for the love of the lord, cannot really deal with this and I feel like something in my head doesn't really let me give a pass on this. It is too damn FUGLY and I am ok with no great beauty in the game, but this person looks just weird. And the lack of facial customization for my hero, for me it is one of the most fun part of the game to design your own hero and it doesn't look good. www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/03/even-mass-effect-andromedas-custom-character-options-are-ugly/26087/Isn't that a custom Ryder who is supposed to be hideous? Seems like an odd thing to be complaining about.
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Post by aard on Mar 15, 2017 18:39:52 GMT
They are not good.. cant deny that.. on the other hand its all a matter of perspective... i mentioned in another thread, the last game i finished was Deus Ex: Mankind Divided... it has even worse facial animations than its nearly 5 years old Predecessor. Most of the time the Lip Synch is completely off.. like they didnt even try..(hell maybe they just didnt..)
THAT was a level of bad animation that made it hard to enjoy.. but in ME:A its really passable most of the time.. Its not game braking as it is in Mankind Divided.
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Post by peebee on Mar 15, 2017 18:40:50 GMT
There is a discussion about this already going on here (with a poll) bsn.boards.net/thread/4759/animationsI think your thread will be merged with that one, but yeah it's already been talked about a lot here. Honestly it's not the end of the world for me, I can live with it.
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Post by littlemad on Mar 15, 2017 18:40:57 GMT
If you compare them to me3 there not that terrible. just like before its something your gonna have to except or forget about the game and hope the next one gets it right. Well that's the point I think that it is slightly worse, and they were worse since the other ones... ME1 > ME2 > M3 > ME:A They eyebrowse actually move with Sheppard, and it has a facial expression at the end. I don't see happening with others.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 15, 2017 18:41:00 GMT
...Umm she actually said her face was tired. I LOLed so hard...I was like "WTF are they trolling us now?" Hahahhahaba
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 18:41:41 GMT
This game is going to be one big meme before its even out, sigh.
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Post by littlemad on Mar 15, 2017 18:43:16 GMT
Isn't that a custom Ryder who is supposed to be hideous? Seems like an odd thing to be complaining about. This is hideous! An hobbit ruined by the power of the ring and living in a Cave for centuries. Makes sense!
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Post by littlemad on Mar 15, 2017 18:44:52 GMT
There is a discussion about this already going on here (with a poll) bsn.boards.net/thread/4759/animationsI think your thread will be merged with that one, but yeah it's already been talked about a lot here. Honestly it's not the end of the world for me, I can live with it. Yeah unfortunately I noticed that the conversation about the facial was few threads in... and I must say it is damn hilarious to see the gifs that everyone is posting. It really make it more bearable the disappointment.
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Post by Rico01 on Mar 15, 2017 18:45:39 GMT
I agree that it is not a game break bug, but doesn't ever happen to you that something in the game bothered you too much to just care about the game? The example is the Dragon Age 2, map re-use. It feels like a cut down product. Metal Gear Solid the end part when re-do the same mission just with some limitation, it feel a punch in the face in Konami style. And you know full price paying 50€ / 60€ it feels like something not worth buy as day one, because exactly it feels more like a commercial move than something made to make you enjoy. Then don't buy it. Does it have to be harder than that?
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Mar 15, 2017 18:46:27 GMT
...Umm she actually said her face was tired. I LOLed so hard...I was like "WTF are they trolling us now?" Hahahhahaba That whole scene was a goldmine. "What happened with... Pathfinder?!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 18:51:41 GMT
Yeah it seems like their quality control is either half blind, or just shrugs their shoulders and goes "ehh, close enough, time to grab a beer." A little note on how things actually work in software development: Problems are identified (by QA and other developers/testers) and entered into a problem tracking database of some sort. The outstanding issues are reviewed and prioritized. Bugs that interfere with game progression, bugs that cause CTD, etc. are given much higher priority for fixes than minor animation glitches. Bugs that are lower pri sometimes aren't ever fixed, especially when a fix would require completely rebuilding some section of code - and that is largely because any code change has the potential to introduce new problems. Can I just say - the shading of Cora's hair (light on top, darker on the sides) was not a great choice on their part? In some scenes, it looks like she's bald on top.
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Post by littlemad on Mar 15, 2017 18:56:05 GMT
Then don't buy it. Does it have to be harder than that? As fan of videogames and good stories, it is difficult. This is my main passion: good games and the details and care put into the games to have a nice imaginary escape and to feel like an hero. Like books, it is difficult to find a good book that is well written and the saga is great. Imagine DUNE, a great book... and you obviously want to read the rest of the books written in the saga but you realise that slowly every following book, are not that good as the first one. (Like the Ender's game), but you are still propelled to want to know more about it, because that first book was SO GOOD that did blow your socks off and you never gonna forget. So I am gonna just postpone the buy for better deal, and waiting for better review and criticism from other to see if is all hype or not.
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Post by abedsbrother on Mar 15, 2017 18:58:41 GMT
I found the animations "Not so great." Just comparing them with two games I've been playing lately - Arkham Knight and Ryse: Son of Rome. Even the original trilogy did a better job. I forget who was talking about eyes in this thread, but absolutely. I even remember a "making of" video with Casey Hudson for one of the trilogy games that specifically addressed how much time BioWare put into designing and rendering eyes.
If the rest of the game is stunning, none of this will matter. It'll pass into meme-lore, and never quite go away, but it'll be a footnote.
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Post by empirex on Mar 15, 2017 19:00:05 GMT
Then don't buy it. Does it have to be harder than that? As fan of videogames and good stories, it is difficult. This is my main passion: good games and the details and care put into the games to have a nice imaginary escape and to feel like an hero. Like books, it is difficult to find a good book that is well written and the saga is great. Imagine DUNE, a great book... and you obviously want to read the rest of the books written in the saga but you realise that slowly every following book, are not that good as the first one. (Like the Ender's game), but you are still propelled to want to know more about it, because that first book was SO GOOD that did blow your socks off and you never gonna forget. So I am gonna just postpone the buy for better deal, and waiting for better review and criticism from other to see if is all hype or not. It probably is so my suggestion is to move on. I want to say you're beating a dead horse but that would imply that the bloody pulp is even a horse anymore.
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