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Post by colfoley on Mar 9, 2017 22:49:29 GMT
from a gp perspective i really prefer unarmed nomad to armed nomad. If bioware armed the thing that would dictate them designing combat around it and you would have an me 1 situation where the vehicle would become a crutch. There's ways to implement it to give players the freedom to chose. They can also limit the gun with a certain amount of ammo that you would have to replenish/cooldown. It would have also made for a good customization option. You can only have one gun on the nomad, but you outfit it with different types of weapons. Maybe. Maybe this is something BioWare is just 'bad' at. But the last two attempts the company made to balance its vehicular segments with its normal gameplay ended in complete and utter failure. The Mako was just all around horrible and because of the design of the maps and it became a crutch for the whole game wheras I, personally, would have much rather gone around as my Shepard instead I was forced to drive that thing. And the hammerhead had the vitality of wet tissue paper. I mean I suppose the obvious solution would be to just make any weapon on the Nomad only about as strong as the weapons you carry out in the field, IE 'small arms fire', but then that runs the risk of making it just like the Hammerhead or defeating the whole point because then you would have people wondering 'oh but why don't they have a 'big' gun on it?'
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Post by spacebeetle on Mar 9, 2017 22:49:43 GMT
Unless they buffed biotics in the lore I don't see how he could solo that by simply pew pewing with a rifle. I mean Starkiller could. But so far biotics haven't been nearly as powerful as the force so idunno. Starkiller is a whimp: this guy would have gobbled him down in one shot.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 9, 2017 22:52:15 GMT
Unless they buffed biotics in the lore I don't see how he could solo that by simply pew pewing with a rifle. I mean Starkiller could. But so far biotics haven't been nearly as powerful as the force so idunno. Starkiller is a whimp: this guy would have gobbled him down in one shot. Starkiller? A whimp? He was the most grotesquely over powered abomination ever introduced to the Star Wars setting with the possible exception of Abeloth or whatever she was, though I have not read the books so...Starkiller takes that cake. If Disney is ever stupid enough to recanonize him I riot.
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Post by spacebeetle on Mar 9, 2017 22:57:23 GMT
Starkiller is a whimp: this guy would have gobbled him down in one shot. Starkiller? A whimp? He was the most grotesquely over powered abomination ever introduced to the Star Wars setting with the possible exception of Abeloth or whatever she was, though I have not read the books so...Starkiller takes that cake. If Disney is ever stupid enough to recanonize him I riot. Well, Darth Nihilus has been excommunicated too… but the lord of hunger was used to drink the life force of planets from space. An entire planet at the time… from space. The Death Star is less lethal than him at the apex of his powers. Just saying…
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Post by colfoley on Mar 9, 2017 23:01:51 GMT
Starkiller? A whimp? He was the most grotesquely over powered abomination ever introduced to the Star Wars setting with the possible exception of Abeloth or whatever she was, though I have not read the books so...Starkiller takes that cake. If Disney is ever stupid enough to recanonize him I riot. Well, Darth Nihilus has been excommunicated too… but the lord of hunger was used to drink the life force of planets from space. An entire planet at the time… from space. The Death Star is less lethal than him at the apex of his powers. Just saying… Actually that is a good point. Honestly I hope they recanonize Nihlus and pretty much everything from the KOTOR era. But leave the Force Unleashed (aka Star Wars Eff You), alone. Please. For all that is holy. Rebels is such a better origin plot for the Rebel Alliance then that...thing.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 9, 2017 23:08:33 GMT
I wonder if we can jump on top of the Nomad fire a gatling gun from there. Then jump back down when attack comes... probably the closest we get to a gun on the Nomad.
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Post by vallixas on Mar 9, 2017 23:11:10 GMT
Well, Darth Nihilus has been excommunicated too… but the lord of hunger was used to drink the life force of planets from space. An entire planet at the time… from space. The Death Star is less lethal than him at the apex of his powers. Just saying… Actually that is a good point. Honestly I hope they recanonize Nihlus and pretty much everything from the KOTOR era. But leave the Force Unleashed (aka Star Wars Eff You), alone. Please. For all that is holy. Rebels is such a better origin plot for the Rebel Alliance then that...thing. I will trade the prequels and the portrayal of Anakind in them for a badass like Starkiller lmao.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 9, 2017 23:11:31 GMT
Starkiller? A whimp? He was the most grotesquely over powered abomination ever introduced to the Star Wars setting with the possible exception of Abeloth or whatever she was, though I have not read the books so...Starkiller takes that cake. If Disney is ever stupid enough to recanonize him I riot. Well, Darth Nihilus has been excommunicated too… but the lord of hunger was used to drink the life force of planets from space. An entire planet at the time… from space.The Death Star is less lethal than him at the apex of his powers. Just saying… Great. Never see Nihilus the same way again. The Star Wars Galactus.
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Post by spacebeetle on Mar 9, 2017 23:26:00 GMT
Well, Darth Nihilus has been excommunicated too… but the lord of hunger was used to drink the life force of planets from space. An entire planet at the time… from space.The Death Star is less lethal than him at the apex of his powers. Just saying… Great. Never see Nihilus the same way again. The Star Wars Galactus. Completely unintentional, I assure you. But the chaos I harbour has been known to spill here and there, with effects such as this one. I’ve never used it on full intensity... but from time to time, I wonder…
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Post by Arcian on Mar 10, 2017 0:11:20 GMT
I wonder why someone would build something like that. Because the Avengers did it and Super MAC wants to be like the people who made Avengers.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Mar 10, 2017 0:12:42 GMT
Starkiller is a whimp: this guy would have gobbled him down in one shot. Starkiller? A whimp? He was the most grotesquely over powered abomination ever introduced to the Star Wars setting with the possible exception of Abeloth or whatever she was, though I have not read the books so...Starkiller takes that cake. If Disney is ever stupid enough to recanonize him I riot. Actually that is a good point. Honestly I hope they recanonize Nihlus and pretty much everything from the KOTOR era. But leave the Force Unleashed (aka Star Wars Eff You), alone. Please. For all that is holy. Rebels is such a better origin plot for the Rebel Alliance then that...thing. Both of you Great. Never see Nihilus the same way again. The Star Wars Galactus. Actually, Vitiate/Valkorion the Emperor from TOR is Star Wars Galactus (or at least he tries to be). And yeah, it is as dumb as you think. And also yeah, there can be only one-
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Post by Iakus on Mar 10, 2017 0:14:34 GMT
I wonder if we can jump on top of the Nomad fire a gatling gun from there. Then jump back down when attack comes... probably the closest we get to a gun on the Nomad.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 0:15:41 GMT
I wonder why someone would build something like that. Because the Avengers did it and Super MAC wants to be like the people who made Avengers. More like all the kids that have joined BioWare and (and Patrick Weekes but that's another story).
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Post by colfoley on Mar 10, 2017 0:18:16 GMT
I wonder why someone would build something like that. Because the Avengers did it and Super MAC wants to be like the people who made Avengers. How is this like the Avengers though? The Avengers was a competent team of militaryeqsue heavily armed bad arses comissioned by a quasi government agency in charge of things like espionage and they had well armed vehicles and were charged with the defense of Earth. The Pathfinder team is an exploratory mission whose membership seems to be young and inexperienced.
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Post by Arcian on Mar 10, 2017 0:18:30 GMT
Because the Avengers did it and Super MAC wants to be like the people who made Avengers. More like all the kids that have joined BioWare and (and Patrick Weekes but that's another story). There's a reason why MAC Attack started doing comics. Because the Avengers did it and Super MAC wants to be like the people who made Avengers. How is this like the Avengers though? The Avengers was a competent team of militaryeqsue heavily armed bad arses comissioned by a quasi government agency in charge of things like espionage and they had well armed vehicles and were charged with the defense of Earth. The Pathfinder team is an exploratory mission whose membership seems to be young and inexperienced. Remember the flying chitauri worm in the first Avengers movie? That's what this giant flying techno noodle is inspired by. Starkiller is a whimp: this guy would have gobbled him down in one shot. Starkiller? A whimp? He was the most grotesquely over powered abomination ever introduced to the Star Wars setting with the possible exception of Abeloth or whatever she was, though I have not read the books so...Starkiller takes that cake. If Disney is ever stupid enough to recanonize him I riot. To be fair, Nihilus is the force equivalent of the Death Star. He kills entire planets by eating their connection to the force.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 10, 2017 0:23:48 GMT
More like all the kids that have joined BioWare and (and Patrick Weekes but that's another story). There's a reason why MAC Attack started doing comics. How is this like the Avengers though? The Avengers was a competent team of militaryeqsue heavily armed bad arses comissioned by a quasi government agency in charge of things like espionage and they had well armed vehicles and were charged with the defense of Earth. The Pathfinder team is an exploratory mission whose membership seems to be young and inexperienced. Remember the flying chitauri worm in the first Avengers movie? That's what this giant flying techno noodle is inspired by. They look nothing alike. They behave nothing alike. And they do not serve the same purpose within the narrative. At least I do not think it does. I suppose it could be when we get to the story, but the two are about as different about night and day. If you want things that likely inspired the 'techno worm' try Mass Effect 1 and 3s Thresher Maws, Dragon Age's Dragons, Pride Demons, and Nightmare, and a whole host of other bad guys throughout all of gaming since the dawn of time. It makes zero sense for this to be overtly inspired by the 'Avengers' when there are so many more readily usable pieces of entertainment which can serve as inspiration. Not to mention that but this kind of thing has been a part of the MET since the beginning, but now we are complaining about.
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Post by Tittus on Mar 10, 2017 0:33:32 GMT
annihilation field -> spam nova. I don't even need to shoot. If it still works like in ME3, of course.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 10, 2017 1:10:16 GMT
More like all the kids that have joined BioWare and (and Patrick Weekes but that's another story). There's a reason why MAC Attack started doing comics. He was always that kind of guy though. It wasn't bad until he became the story-director/lead-writer for ME2/3
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Post by lastpawn on Mar 10, 2017 3:09:28 GMT
I like the Borderlands approach. You can use the vehicle weapons instead of getting out and doing the hard work yourself, but with much less XP. Your call. But since the theme of the game is exploration, it's not entirely shocking that the main exploration vehicle is unarmed. aka ME1 approach as for the theme of the game being exploration, the majority of gameplay is killing stuff, so there's that
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 10, 2017 6:31:16 GMT
Nomad's sole purpose is to drive me closer so I can hit it with my sword. Anyway, I thought we are over it already. Do you enjoy reopening old wounds? You do realize the melee combat is very limited in the game with only one animation per weapon like ME3, right? How does it matter if it still does the job?
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 10, 2017 15:31:59 GMT
You do realize the melee combat is very limited in the game with only one animation per weapon like ME3, right? How does it matter if it still does the job? Ha True
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Post by rahavan on Mar 10, 2017 16:15:58 GMT
I'm glad we don't have a gun on the mako. I get that it makes absolutely no sense if you think about it (what organization wouldn't build or allow a gun to be built on a vehicle going through hostile territories) but shooting ONE gun is not exciting. Besides having a gun would just mean you would shoot big badies to 10% or less of there health and get out and finish them off just like with thresher maws in ME1. I would gladly sacrifice some immersion for better a better gameplay experience.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 12:05:57 GMT
I still think it's possible that the Ai, being a civilian organization, is not allowed to build tanks and warships.
Like, guns, sure. Anyone can own guns. People in this tread probably own guns. My grandparents have huge lockers full of 'em.
How many of you own a tank, or a stealth bomber though? That's what the Mako and Normandy were.
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Post by simsimillia on Mar 11, 2017 12:45:18 GMT
I still think it's possible that the Ai, being a civilian organization, is not allowed to build tanks and warships. Like, guns, sure. Anyone can own guns. People in this tread probably own guns. My grandparents have huge lockers full of 'em. How many of you own a tank, or a stealth bomber though? That's what the Mako and Normandy were. Exactly this. The Arks are essentially Dreadnought class ships in size and the council keeps a close eyes on those. Weapons take up space and energy. The Nomad and the Tempest are both designed for exploration, not combat. So instead of installing weapon systems, it makes more sense to install probe bays, sensor arrays, etc. We didn't put machine guns on the Mars rovers. On top of that, I'd rather have no vehicle combat than something like the Hammerhead. Because even it had been more durable, it was still super boring to fight with it. Just like Mako fighting was rather dull even compared to ME1 lackluster on foot combat.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 12:50:44 GMT
I still think it's possible that the Ai, being a civilian organization, is not allowed to build tanks and warships. Like, guns, sure. Anyone can own guns. People in this tread probably own guns. My grandparents have huge lockers full of 'em. How many of you own a tank, or a stealth bomber though? That's what the Mako and Normandy were. Exactly this. The Arks are essentially Dreadnought class ships in size and the council keeps a close eyes on those. Weapons take up space and energy. The Nomad and the Tempest are both designed for exploration, not combat. So instead of installing weapon systems, it makes more sense to install probe bays, sensor arrays, etc. We didn't put machine guns on the Mars rovers.On top of that, I'd rather have no vehicle combat than something like the Hammerhead. Because even it had been more durable, it was still super boring to fight with it. Just like Mako fighting was rather dull even compared to ME1 lackluster on foot combat. I'm glad you agree, but the point I mostly want to stress is the fact that weapons are not out of the question as far as exploration is considered. Especially in the Mass Effect universe. I just think there's probably a bit of a difference between heavy military artillery, and regular old firearms.
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