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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 9, 2017 16:26:31 GMT
So I have seen a lot of posts complaining about "muh sjws". While I find these complaints to often be as whiny as those they are complaining about, I would like to know whether this is a vocal minority or not. I'd like to know exactly what sort of narratives you mean, please specify. 'SJW narratives' is too vague to be meaningful and sometimes is just a slur to throw around. If you can share some specifics we can discuss it, otherwise, it just becomes a content-less bait-fest (and I'll lock it). I'll pop back later to see what has been decided.
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Post by midnightwolf on Mar 9, 2017 16:28:54 GMT
I've no idea what 'Sjw' means. Could someone please enlighten me?
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Post by Fredward on Mar 9, 2017 16:29:13 GMT
One hopes.
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Post by bshep on Mar 9, 2017 16:30:40 GMT
I've no idea what 'Sjw' means. Could someone please enlighten me? Social Justice Warrior. Tipical youtube like trolling.
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Post by midnightwolf on Mar 9, 2017 16:32:02 GMT
I've no idea what 'Sjw' means. Could someone please enlighten me? Social Justice Warrior. Tipical youtube like trolling. Oh. Nonsense then. Thanks bshep.
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Post by helios969 on Mar 9, 2017 16:32:33 GMT
My vote goes to couldn't care less.
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Post by midnightwolf on Mar 9, 2017 16:37:38 GMT
My vote goes to couldn't care less. I second this. Why isn't that a poll option?
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Post by simsimillia on Mar 9, 2017 16:38:23 GMT
"Full of them"? No, I doubt it... but I also doubt BW can help themselves, so there will at least be something there... even if it's just cringy slam poetry from a Quarian, about how oppressed she is by her own immune system, or some such BS. ...actually, forget it, that could be quite a clever piece of satire. Thanks now I want Quarian slam poetry in Mass Effect...or any kind of slam poetry in Mass Effect, really.
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Post by Koss on Mar 9, 2017 16:41:27 GMT
Nah.
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Post by darcon on Mar 9, 2017 16:45:32 GMT
For those confused about what SJW narritives mean, I usally think of it like hamfisting everything they cry about in an uninspired way with bad writing, bad acting and just plain bad. But at the moment no I don't see it, part of it is dispite some people working at Bioware that are pretty crappy people they don't have anything to do with the games writing and I'm pretty sure that Bioware is aware of how badly they can fail after the ME3 ending.
Most likely its also the reason why overall DA:I did well, could Dorian be a little more fleshed out, yes, could Sera look a little less like an addict, yes, I never had an issue with Krem cause if people took a look, under the Qun Krem would loose more individual rights for the sake of Security and purpose.
Long story short, 99.99% sure people have no worries.
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Post by Morrigan on Mar 9, 2017 16:54:59 GMT
I sure hope so. Means it would have taken a lot of inspiration from classic and cult science fiction like Star Trek and Babylon 5. Like Mass Effect 1. This is an incredibly good point. Why has nerd culture suddenly become so reactionary?
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Post by isaidlunch on Mar 9, 2017 17:00:01 GMT
Probably not, Mass Effect has always been a very "tits out for the boys" series.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 9, 2017 17:00:52 GMT
"Full of them"? No, I doubt it... but I also doubt BW can help themselves, so there will at least be something there... even if it's just cringy slam poetry from a Quarian, about how oppressed she is by her own immune system, or some such BS. ...actually, forget it, that could be quite a clever piece of satire. Thanks now I want Quarian slam poetry in Mass Effect...or any kind of slam poetry in Mass Effect, really. Well, according to one of the latest trailers, there will be the option for it in the bar on the Nexus...
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 9, 2017 17:04:17 GMT
I think that depends on what you define as SJW. Seems nobody really has a concrete definition for that term.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 9, 2017 17:06:20 GMT
I sure hope so. Means it would have taken a lot of inspiration from classic and cult science fiction like Star Trek and Babylon 5. Like Mass Effect 1. This is an incredibly good point. Why has nerd culture suddenly become so reactionary? Becuaaas: We no longer get challenged by interesting moral or philosophical dilemmas and metaphysical concepts, but get "educated" (aka. preached too) by people that take their knowledge of social science and moral philosophy from Twitter, Facebook and tumblr... that's at least my reason... dunno about others. I mean, I can do bad writing - otherwise I wouldn't still be a BioWare fan - but bad writing with a "message"? Uh, no, sorry... life's to short.
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Post by simsimillia on Mar 9, 2017 17:06:52 GMT
Thanks now I want Quarian slam poetry in Mass Effect...or any kind of slam poetry in Mass Effect, really. Well, according to one of the latest trailers, there will be the option for it in the bar on the Nexus... OMG! Perfect! Though I kinda have a feeling from your earlier comment that American/Canadian poetry slam is a lot different to what I'm used to in Germany? Germany is a lot of satirical and funny caricature/criticism of politics/society.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 9, 2017 17:07:26 GMT
anti-SJWs can be annoying as SJW, are as easily triggered too. Honestly it seems like these days the "anti-sjw" crowd is even more easily triggered than the "sjw" crowd.
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Post by JayKay on Mar 9, 2017 17:07:59 GMT
It'll likely share similar themes/topics that are part of those current talking points (I mean, we're basically in the position of immigrants/refugees trying to adapt in an environment hostile to us, this is basically the sci-fi tradition of taking things happening in our world today and amping it up a million degrees). The difference is that the most ardent "SJW" people seem to be awfully regressive and want mass segregation, whereas more legit progressive places like Bioware strive for inclusivity and understanding/cooperation no matter how different people are.
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Post by darcon on Mar 9, 2017 17:08:16 GMT
I think that depends on what you define as SJW. Seems nobody really has a concrete definition for that term. Basicly a moral busy body who gets offended for you even if your not and if you don't agree with them then your a problem.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 9, 2017 17:08:52 GMT
I think that depends on what you define as SJW. Seems nobody really has a concrete definition for that term. It's not unlike the word cuck. Fuck-all if people really know or care what it's supposed to mean; it's just something to say as a general term of derision, like doodoohead.
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Post by jamiecotc on Mar 9, 2017 17:09:02 GMT
Where is the 'I don't care' option?
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Post by aionis on Mar 9, 2017 17:09:43 GMT
Hopefully, I enjoyed the tears of ignorant bigots.
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Post by JayKay on Mar 9, 2017 17:10:00 GMT
anti-SJWs can be annoying as SJW, are as easily triggered too. Honestly it seems like these days the "anti-sjw" crowd is even more easily triggered than the "sjw" crowd. Hey now, it's not a competition. Please, please don't make it a competition. Any more and my head is going to completely slam through my desk.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 9, 2017 17:10:36 GMT
I think that depends on what you define as SJW. Seems nobody really has a concrete definition for that term. Basicly a moral busy body who gets offended for you even if your not and if you don't agree with them then your a problem. So by this definition, SJW isn't exclusive to the Left Wing Authoritarians.
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 9, 2017 17:12:10 GMT
Basicly a moral busy body who gets offended for you even if your not and if you don't agree with them then your a problem. So by this definition, SJW isn't exclusive to the Left Wing Authoritarians. That is correct. It's extremism that is the problem.
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